Rumor: Tulsky/Canes made a last ditch effort to trade for Boeser w. 30 minutes left of the deadline.

[Nikolajs Sillers]

What a blunder.

 

[tarheelhockey]

You join the que to report the trade to the NHL. If you are stuck in the que with the Dallas trade you can still make another outside deal with Vancouver contingent on the Dallas assets happening and then join the que for that trade.

Dallas Trade --> Vancouver Trade

Sit on the phone que and make it happen.

Maybe you don't know how this works? You don't need the Dallas trade to be sent through to negotiate and setup a deal with Vancouver.

Amusing that you’re pulling the “maybe you don’t know how this works?” line while criticizing a guy who has been in an NHL front office for over a decade, including AGM/GM for the past five deadlines.

Pretty sure Tulsky knows how deadlines work. The information gap here is that none of us know what happened behind closed doors, or even the details of what Dhaliwal is reporting here.

 

[ponder]

Allvin made it seem like the offers were awful for Boeser, not sure I would consider KK and a 1st awful.

Allvin has said:

• The offers for Boeser sucked
• Other teams were very interested in Lekkerimaki, Willander and D Petey, but the Nucks don't want to deal them

And the rumours about this offer are:

• The offer was Boeser + <prospect> for Kotka + 1st
• ... but the prospect was a big sticking point for the Nucks, and the main reason they declined

So I do think it's quite likely the offer was Boeser plus one of Lekkerimaki, Willander or D Petey for Kotka and a 1st, and Allvin turned it down. Personally, I would've turned that down too.

 

[AHLdepth]

Definitely sounds like a last second "take it or leave it, and don't read the fine print" type of offers.

Boeser for a 1st - take it and run
Boeser for KK and a 1st -consider it for sure
Boeser + top prospect for KK and a 1st - ridiculous, like what is the goal of this trade?

 

[TheReelChuckFletcher]

Definitely sounds like a last second "take it or leave it, and don't read the fine print" type of offers.

Boeser for a 1st - take it and run
Boeser for KK and a 1st -consider it for sure
Boeser + top prospect for KK and a 1st - ridiculous, like what is the goal of this trade?

My guess is that the trade was Boeser and a middling prospect for a 1st.

 

[Canes]

Trading KK now wouldn't have made sense, considering that Stankoven hasn't yet proven that he can play center in the NHL. With the Rantanen cap hit dealt, the Canes could've fit the Boeser contract at 50% retained. I wouldn't be shocked if the Canes offered one of Dallas's 1st round picks.

Yet the Canes were still trying to trade KK. As he has proved he can play center but only mediocre at best.

If this trade went through, the Canes centre depth going into the playoffs would've been:

Aho
Staal
Jankowski
Jost

Bruh.

Unfortunately slotting Kotkaniemi in there only slightly makes it stronger. But not enough where you wouldn’t miss an opportunity to unload his contract

 

[KirkAlbuquerque]

I respect them for trying anyway

 

[Lt Dan]

if someone had just offered him a first for boeser as opposed to offering a first and demanding a prospect back worth more than the first, i'd expect his demeanour and talking point to have been very different. the prospects allvin namechecked as being asked for were willander, lekkermaki and d-elias petterson. a dallas first rounder is not getting any of those players back right now.

What if he had offered a Klondike bar?

 

[bleedgreen]

Sounds like a Carolina is the only one to blame since the Rantanen deal was pretty much done when the TDL started. They had ample time to facilitate this other than 30 minutes until the TDL was over.

They only had 500k until the deal was officially done, which felt completely different that day. The deal was announced as cancelled halfway through the morning of the deadline before it became clear that had just hit a snag and they kept going at it - talking about the stars and the contract. Everything we heard that day and since indicates they had their hands tied because they couldn’t officially go after anything until the official word that the contract was done.

I don’t get the whole coming at Tulsky about this. Do we think he took a nap during deadline and day and oooopsie…..I missed trades? Why do we think there’s misinformation here other than you just don’t like the Canes or Dundon so this is your stance?

 

[Poppy Whoa Sonnet]

Why? Apparently the deal didn't even get talked about until 30 minutes prior to the deadline ending, if Vancouver didn't take another offer before then based on something that is going to be a struggle to get worked out then that's on Vancouver.

I assumed the market for Boeser was stronger than it apparently was and Carolina / Vancouver had worked out a conditional deal that fell through. Sounds like no one actually wanted Boeser cause of health concerns. Boeser not being moved was the biggest surprise of the deadine for me, seemed almost certain he was going and Vancouver lost out an asset because of the back and forth.