TSN: TSN1040 Vancouver: Contract talks with Gallagher have stalled and broken off

[MTL-rules]

If he can be like Brown at the end of his contract I would be happy. Brown is still producing at a good level

And he sucked balls for the first 6 years of his contract...

 

[MasterD]

Gallagher wants to get paid and have security like anyone else.

This is likely to be his big payday, so I don't expect a hometown discount.

I think 7M might be my ceiling on what I'd pay.

I'm also a little apprehensive to give him 8 years, but that type of thing doesn't seem to bother MB.

I would like 4 years, but Gallagher would never do that.

Honestly not sure what's going to happen with Gallagher.

Lots of decisions to make for MB.

Wow, 7M and 8 years!? I'd never give him that seeing what Andersen and Toffoli just signed for! Sure he's scored more, but that's because he got more icetime because we have no one else for the 1st line...

 

[A Loyal Demidog]

I'm thinking about guys like Boeser or Ehlers personnally. Guys in that category.

Oh yes, I'm down for any of those.

 

[BaseballCoach]

One: I wouldn't trust Vancouver sources.
Two: Gally is not the heart of this team and has never had playoff success. People are attached to him the same way they were to Patches before.
Three: It would be indefensible to let him walk for nothing, choose one of two options: trade him or sign him.
Four: His play is already falling off, I lean towards trading him. Try to get a great return for him akin to Patches.

Patches had higher value due to scoring over 35 a few times. Also, Vegas got one year out of him prior to UFA. Gallagher may not play many games depending on how the pandemic goes.

So I think he only gets traded if there is a team ready with a long-term contract he will accept, like Pacioretty in fact.

The one thing that helps Gallagher's value is his low cap hit this year. A team looking to win MIGHT see him as a rental and be willing to give a 1st rounder or a decent young player.

 

[Kents polished head]

Bergevin said that he does not believe that Gallagher will accept a 4-5 year deal and that he expects to get more years on the open market. Bergevin also said he wants Gallagher to retire a Hab, and that he will be the highest paid forward.

So it sounds like he set himself up for a 7-8 year deal at big money, more than he gave Anderson. $6.5M x 7??

If Gallagher is hesitant about that, wow. Now maybe Bergevin cut back his offer seeing the current market?!

If Gallagher wants something crazy, for this team's sake, then he has to be traded. I'll wait before overreacting though as negociations in this league are a complex process.
I think the timing of this leaking out (right before a Bergevin Press Conference) indicates that it's clearly a negociation tactic from the agent. And if he wants to play hardball, if I'm Marc Bergevin, I'm not playing this game too long.

 

[Gustave]

What are the legitimate targets in a Gallagher trade?

I see all three western teams falling over themselves for a good and hard nosed western kid.

I would prefer keeping him, but nothing over 4 years.

 

[le_sean]

All this crazy talk of trading him. Gallagher has earned the right to try to make some noise with the most complete Habs team he’s been on since he started his career. He makes less than $4m and is good for 30 goals. Why would you mess up what the team has built this season just because his contract is up at the end of the year? Absolute craziness.

 

[dackelljuneaubulis02]

I think you have to explore trading him. You can package him for something massive potentially.

I'll get clobbered for this but I'd be willing to stagnate a year to get serious futures.

A Pacioretty-lite package could be great. A serious prospect and a high pick? I could live with that. His cap hit even for one year though has got to be tantalizing for a lot of teams. That will only help his value.

I don't know how quickly MB's going to start shopping him around though. Hopefully sooner than later.

 

[TheBuriedHab]

He ain't going anywhere everyone calm down

 

[OldCraig71]

If Bergevin was really committed to having Gallagher be our highest paid forward would he have made the moves that he did? There is a flat cap for the foreseeable future, contract dollars will certainly reflect that. It's probably time to move on.

 

[Capitano]

It's Gally's agent's job to try and get Gally as much money as possible but I think it will end up being a team friendly contract when it's all said and done.

 

[DAChampion]

I know we like drama but whatever, this isn't urgent.

 

[dackelljuneaubulis02]

All this crazy talk of trading him. Gallagher has earned the right to try to make some noise with the most complete Habs team he’s been on since he started his career. He makes less than $4m and is good for 30 goals. Why would you mess up what the team has built this season just because his contract is up at the end of the year? Absolute craziness.

Definitely have to explore those trade options though. I trust MB's trades a lot more of late so I'd like to see him try to target a team that has a prospect he and TT are thrilled about.

 

[Adriatic]

Not concerned with this at all. If you can't get it done you trade him and we'll get something good in return. It's very tricky with him because we've had him at a discount so far, he's been incredible and fully worth his contract. I don't blame him for wanting to get paid, he fully deserves it for what he's done during his time here and sacrificing his body. He's all heart and soul. On the other hand you don't want to overpay a broken down player into his 30's that already isn't a great skater. Tough spot for the Habs because every team would keep a guy like that. But if you can't we trade and get other assets. It would nice to see him win here after putting all that hard work in, but not at any price.

 

[A Loyal Demidog]

An Oilers fan proposed this on the main boards:

RNH + 1st for Gallagher and Byron

I'd be down for that.

Drouin - Suzuki - Anderson
Nugent-Hopkins - Kotkaniemi - Toffoli
Tatar - Danault - Armia
Lehkonen - Poehling - Evans

 

[The Great Weal]

All this crazy talk of trading him. Gallagher has earned the right to try to make some noise with the most complete Habs team he’s been on since he started his career. He makes less than $4m and is good for 30 goals. Why would you mess up what the team has built this season just because his contract is up at the end of the year? Absolute craziness.

Well if we aren't a playoff team, we better trade him. Losing him for nothing would be very bad.

 

[JeffreyLFC]

I wouldn’t be suprised to see them pout. Danault already said those comments.

They can pout all they want that would certainly not help them in their contract negotiation with the habs or with another team.

 

[Kents polished head]

Not concerned with this at all. If you can't get it done you trade him and we'll get something good in return. It's very tricky with him because we've had him at a discount so far, he's been incredible and fully worth his contract. I don't blame him for wanting to get paid, he fully deserves it for what he's done during his time here and sacrificing his body. He's all heart and soul. On the other hand you don't want to overpay a broken down player into his 30's that already isn't a great skater. Tough spot for the Habs because every team would keep a guy like that. But if you can't we trade and get other assets. It would nice to see him win here after putting all that hard work in, but not at any price.

There's getting paid, and there's getting paid... You can't ask for the moon when you're a perennial 45-55 points forward.

For the record, I know he's not just that, that he brings more than the stats, etc... But there's a price range for this category of player, and the upper hand of that range isn't any higher than 6.5M.

 

[Sterling Archer]

Honestly, love Gallagher but this might be the best thing for the Habs organization. Reminds me a bit of the Plex extension. Gally is a heart and sole guy but at this point, I think you're paying him for past performance than future as he has a lot of miles on that body and get's beaten up a lot. Still has some good years in the tank but anything more than 3 or 4 years may end up hurting us.

if we can get a solid package back in a trade, I think you need to look at that. Especially with Caufield and Ylonen coming in the next couple of years and Toffoli and Anderson already with long term contracts, it's something that should certainly be looked at.​

 

[OB5]

Ok now I'm a bit worried

 

[Rosso Scuderia]

It's time to part ways.

We let Pacioretty go because we didn't want him at 7M$ despite him scoring 35 goals. We didn't think he was a game changer and his playoffs performance was subpar. Gallagher is pretty much the same. Him giving 100% all season long doesn't leave him much for the playoffs.

So I'd trade him asap, while his value is still high.

 

[De Montreal]

Wouldn’t go higher than 6x6,5

 

[Draft]

Well, we've got Anderson (5yrs), Toffoli (4yrs), and Armia capable of playing 1-2-3RW with Caufield in the wings to play in the top-6 and a glut of solid bottom-6 players that can fill in on the third line. However, Gallagher is still the best of the bunch and likely will be unless Anderson takes his game above pre-injury levels and Caufield shows he can play in the NHL.

In its current state, this team doesn't get better moving on from Gallagher. With his contract situation, there's a very slim chance MTL gets back a roster player capable of making the team better.

This Tatar-Danault-Gallagher situation is a mess.

 

[bobholly39]

Good, trade him for a LW and have Toffoli play 2nd line RW.

Id be happy with this.

XXX-Suzuki-Toffoli
Tatar-Kotkaniemi-Anderson


Theres a great opportunity here.

You've wanted to trade him for a long time.

To me - it really depends. I feel as though the trade value for someone like him might be very high. If that's the case - I'm all for trading him for a very strong return. But if his value isn't as high as I imagine - this becomes a bit less attractive.

He's still a great player, that helps a lot both on and off the ice. I'd be ok signing him long-term, but again, it depends what his demands are. 5-6 year term max i'd like, I wouldn't want to do 7 or 8. Also AAV is important too, clearly.

I could see it going in either direction.

 

[Captain Mountain]

An Oilers fan proposed this on the main boards:

RNH + 1st for Gallagher and Byron

I'd be down for that.

Drouin - Suzuki - Anderson
Nugent-Hopkins - Kotkaniemi - Toffoli
Tatar - Danault - Armia
Lehkonen - Poehling - Evans

I just don't see how Montreal can afford RNH long term. He's asking over 7 mil on his next contract. And he's probably going to get that too.