Tsn Mckenzies Top 15 Rankings NHL DRAFT Lottery Edition

[Kevin Musto]

https://www.tsn.ca/nhl/bob-mckenzie...ctable-ride-after-macklin-celebrini-1.2116004

1. Celebrini
2. Demidov
3. Silayev
4. Levshunov
5. Lindstrom
6. Dickinson
7. Parekh
8. Buium
9. Helenius
10. Iginla
11. Catton
12. Yakemchuk
13. Eiserman
14. Sennecke
15. Connelly

 

[Pavel Buchnevich]

NHL teams are so dumb if Catton falls out of the top 10.

 

[gothegr8]

NHL teams are so dumb if Catton falls out of the top 10.

Why? I have him at 10 and i don't feel dumb at all.

 

[WarriorofTime]

No major surprises. Catton/Helenius can go either way.

 

[Pavel Buchnevich]

Why? I have him at 10 and i don't feel dumb at all.

What’s wrong with his game? He looks like a star with no real weakness other than slightly mediocre size.

 

[TLEH]

Helenius performances in the U20 and U18s don't make me feel any better about Liiga and the player in general.

 

[FinPanda]

I doubt Helenius will go top 10, but definitely nice to see him at 9. Expecting a solid WHC from him whenever he plays,

 

[Bonin21]

It will be very tough to take Levshunov over Buium.

 

[Czechboy]

I doubt Helenius will go top 10, but definitely nice to see him at 9. Expecting a solid WHC from him whenever he plays,

Finn's have always been excellent at incorporating teenagers into the lineup.

 

[FinPanda]

Finn's have always been excellent at incorporating teenagers into the lineup.

Yep, Jalonen has given a lot of chances for teenagers. Like Kakko in 2019.

 

[FriendlyGhost92]

Iggy at 10 and Yakemchuk at 12 make Calgary's pick reeealllll interesting.

 

[Juxtaposer]

What’s wrong with his game? He looks like a star with no real weakness other than slightly mediocre size.

I do think 11 is low for Catton (I have him in the 6-8 range), the fact that he’s almost certainly a winger at the NHL level makes him much less interesting.

Silayev at 3 after his mediocre second half seems insane to me.

 

[Pavel Buchnevich]

I do think 11 is low for Catton (I have him in the 6-8 range), the fact that he’s almost certainly a winger at the NHL level makes him much less interesting.

Silayev at 3 after his mediocre second half seems insane to me.

It’s getting easier to stick at center now in the NHL. Players like Hughes and Bedard didn’t have old school center profiles and neither has been moved off center.

 

[FriendlyGhost92]

MBN seeming more and more like an obvious Detroit pick, along the same lines as everybody knew they were taking Kasper in 2022.

 

[Juxtaposer]

It’s getting easier to stick at center now in the NHL. Players like Hughes and Bedard didn’t have old school center profiles and neither has been moved off center.

Yet.

Hughes has played on the wing at times and Bedard may move to wing if the Hawks get another top-tier center prospect. I personally wouldn’t really be confident with either as a center. They’re both atrocious defensively in the NHL.

 

[SannywithoutCompy]

Yet.

Hughes has played on the wing at times and Bedard may move to wing if the Hawks get another top-tier center prospect. I personally wouldn’t really be confident with either as a center. They’re both atrocious defensively in the NHL.

Maybe if you measure defensive impact by faceoffs and blocked shots lmao

 

[WarriorofTime]

What’s wrong with his game? He looks like a star with no real weakness other than slightly mediocre size.

Likely in that "2nd tier" of skill when you compare to NHL star forwards/projected star forwards. Not a super big guy, so question of whether he's more of a "2nd skill guy" on a top line (wing or center next to a star wing) or a "skill guy" on a 2nd line (center).

Good player, will have good career, just not sure if "star" is a bit on the extreme end if you're looking at more a 2nd line kinda guy.

This is where convos can get kinda dumb. If we're talking about a player who is like 10/11 out of every hockey player in the world age-eligible for the draft, there's a ton more good than bad, but everyone wants to focus on negging players in a game of "find the bust" rather than recognizing how extreme it is to be able to play in the NHL at all.

 

[Juxtaposer]

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Maybe if you measure defensive impact by faceoffs and blocked shots lmao

Oh boy, a JFresh card. Can’t argue with that.

I’m assuming this also means that you think he is a below average finisher?

 

[SannywithoutCompy]

Oh boy, a JFresh card. Can’t argue with that.

I’m assuming this also means that you think he is a below average finisher?

No, I'd say his trend was pretty clearly towards above average finishing pre-injury.

 

[Juxtaposer]

No, I'd say his trend was pretty clearly towards above average finishing pre-injury.

In my opinion, Hughes is one of the better finishers in the league. But if the JFresh card says he’s bad at it, then we both must be absolutely crazy, right?

 

[Zirakzigil]

Iggy at 10 and Yakemchuk at 12 make Calgary's pick reeealllll interesting.

If both are available, Id have to imagine that the pick will be Iginla. Conroy picked up a lot of defensemen at the deadline, none of the trades brought in a forward prospect. Yakemchuk is a good prospect though.

 

[SannywithoutCompy]

In my opinion, Hughes is one of the better finishers in the league. But if the JFresh card says he’s bad at it, then we both must be absolutely crazy, right?

Except it doesn't say that, it's a 3 year trend weighed down by his below average finishing in 20-21. As he heals and goes into next year I'm sure it'll adjust to reflect that.

What it doesn't show is blocked shots or faceoff % which is what I assume your claim of him being "atrocious defensively" is based on.

 

[Kaako Kappo]

Yep, Jalonen has given a lot of chances for teenagers. Like Kakko in 2019.

And Lundell in whenever.

....And that's about it for the chances.

E: Well, Laine. Barkov... Maybe you're right after all. Hehe

 

[WarriorofTime]

Except it doesn't say that, it's a 3 year trend weighed down by his below average finishing in 20-21. As he heals and goes into next year I'm sure it'll adjust to reflect that.

What it doesn't show is blocked shots or faceoff % which is what I assume your claim of him being "atrocious defensively" is based on.

Centers that stink at Faceoffs at a certain point in their career should probably get moved to Wing. I find Center hyper-focus to be a bit odd of a Hockey Trend of the last 30 years or so when everything else suggests play should be a lot more positionless.

 

[SannywithoutCompy]

Centers that stink at Faceoffs at a certain point in their career should probably get moved to Wing.

"Yeah sorry Geno, you're only at 45% for career faceoffs so despite your entire Art Ross, Conn Smythe, Hart-winning skillset saying otherwise, you should probably get moved to wing."