...the issue is what's "Swinging Big" with the assets available to the Leafs to move??...a late 1st next year...bottom 3rd prospect pool...moving a Knies would be foolish, imo...
LeBrun: TSN insider trading Keep an eye on Gourde as a fit for the Leafs if they don't land Schenn or Laughton.
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...the issue is what's "Swinging Big" with the assets available to the Leafs to move??...a late 1st next year...bottom 3rd prospect pool...moving a Knies would be foolish, imo...
His stock has dropped a bit but from a very high starting point. This is a major piece from two recent Cup wins, who also racked up 13 pts in 14 playoff games for Seattle. He'll be back from the sports hernia surgery recovery before the deadline and if he's skating well, there will be more than enough interest for the Kraken to garner a 1st.
I'm not concerned about missing a couple 4th round picks, or next years 2nd.
The reason I said they aren't actually asset poor is because as of today this is the only year they don't have a 1st which is OK because 2025 is not seen as a particularly strong draft..
Now I think they are going to become asset poor because I do think Treliving is going to do something fairly big at this deadline and I expect further moves to empty the cupboard over the next 3-6 seasons.
But as of today they have solid prospects in Cowan, Minten Danford and Grebenkin, they have their 1st next year, they have a full set of picks in 2027. 2025 is looking scarce in terms of draft capital but overall I feel like they are doing ok, the cupboards aren't empty.
They will be but as of today they aren't
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He just had 13 pts in 14 games two years ago for the Kraken, so your post is completely wrong lol. He hasn't regressed at all in that time and still plays the exact same way.
Agreed I think that's why they are looking at the Schenn brothers, and why I personally would look at Garnett Hathaway
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Not a single word of my post is wrong.
You claimed he was twice a point-a-game in the playoffs. He has never been a point-a-game in the playoffs.
It's absurd that you fabricate something completely false, get called on it, and the have the gall to actually respond and claim that I am completely wrong.
You're shameless.
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Lmao okay, you're right that I got it wrong but he was still a PPG and if you're really going to use semantics to declare that 13 in 14 isnt ppg than it really just shows you have an agenda and are sticking to it. Please, continue your agenda, I really don't care what you think. You obviously haven't watched Gourde as much as any Seattle fan and have no idea what you're referring to. Have a good one, I'll keep being shameless over here I guess lol.
FerrisRox
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You said he was a point a game twice. You're counting 13 in 14 as a point game for one. What was the second time he was a point-a-game in the playoffs, according to you?
Was it when he posted 7 points in 17 games in 2018? Was it when he had 1 point in 4 games in 2019? Was it when he had 14 points in 25 games the next year? Or was it when he posted 7 points in 23 games in 2021?
Cause that's it. There are no other playoff seasons, so please, excuse my semantics and let me know which one of those other seasons you're pretending are a point-a-game?
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You might not be concerned, but perhaps that lack of concern isn't seeing what we have by way of trade chips. Your reason for saying we're not asset poor doesn't reconcile our numeric disadvantage.
As for "solid prospects", I think we might have two in Cowan and Minten and even then, we're not a club with prospects where our consensus is screaming not to trade anyone. Again, by definition, we don't have a surplus to draw from, in fact, we don't have a baseline to draw from, and how much we need vs how much we can get is sorely taxed from either side.
Clubs like Chicago and Detroit, Buffalo...They're asset rich: Pipeline is humming, picks to play with, assets to sell because their trajectory isn't in line with maximizing a group in its prime.
We had a small window with Hildeby and Aktyamov, but I think perception has reset. Grebenkin; HIghly quotable and seems a great dude, but he's not a "trade chip". Neither is Niemela. And Danford...Does he feel like a Matt Finn-Stuart Percy-Karel Pilar special.
We've got Minten and Cowan, a '26 1st, a '25 2nd, our 3rds and maybe Nick Robertson for support pieces, and some other depth that might yield replenishing some middle round picks. But we aren't trading from prospect depth or pick depth and we have no excess in either, like the clubs mentioned above.
We are presently, definitionally, in terms of traditional trade assets, asset-poor. That full set of picks in 2027 might as well be in 2037. No club is looking at Maple Leafs picks beyond 1sts, three drafts away and beyond, when considering their valuation models for pieces they're willing to move.
Treliving and Co. are going to have to get creative. That said, our core has to lead the way. What little we have to acquire with, has the right profile to yield good support parts with term control. Any move we make, has to be for controllable assets. Come July 1 2025, we'll know where we stand. And if we had made better decisions under Dubas, those assets dispensed like free candy might have had a positive effect on today's needs.
