TSN: TSN Blackouts - Mendes wants your feedback

[Loach]

Going through that old thread game me PTSD.

Those two posters plus some others that shall not be named turned this place into a toxic dump while Melnyk was still owner. In fact I still suspect some of them were related to or hired by Melnyk lol. All they did was go around blaming fans even as the org was falling apart and then they sort of vanished when he died.

Even Adrianopoulos can't even hold a candle to how awful those posters were.

100%. The best part was how people got put in time out or had priviledges taken away for calling them out. Nothing happened to the trolls though. Strange huh?

 

[Big Muddy]

IP Address Lookup | Geolocation using my wan ip assigned by my ip, this sight shows your geo location according to several different ip location services and in my case I get some giving it as toronto and some giving it as my actual location.

Even If a server that is providing a service to an end user is remote (in Toronto using your example), there’s still typically a bunch of routers that are used to reach the final destination server including an edge router. I would think the edge router would be in close proximity to your actual physical/geographical location. Networks are subject to degradation if there’s too many hops/routers (more than 7 was a number that was floated years ago) and transient delays cause jitter problems, etc. I would think/guess that if a company wanted to figure out where a remote user is located, hence an edge router is located, they could. I was never deep into hands on IP networking and routing tables, but I did know some of basic principles involved.

 

[Loach]

Every game. It's on...this is what the guide shows.

 

[BonHoonLayneCornell]

phone gps vs wifi ip can provide different geolocations ; which may be pertinent

Using wifi via a router ; your router is assigned a public ip or wan ip address from your ip. In my case that wan ip address is in Toronto even though my physical location is not and it is in the Sens viewing area. So even though I am physically located where I should be able to watch without a hitch ..I get blacked out by Bell/TSN . My TV Provider shows me TSN5 and TSN5 Blackout as 2 channels. In my case TSN5 is blacked out and TSN5 Blackout is not. I can't explain it. I also have the NHL channels .. and never had a blackout there even though they do show TSN5 broadcast on Sens home games .

IP Address Lookup | Geolocation using my wan ip assigned by my ip, this sight shows your geo location according to several different ip location services and in my case I get some giving it as toronto and some giving it as my actual location. These services are sold and/or used by sites wanting to know geolocations. IP Address Location Incorrect describes how to get geo location databases corrected.

I am going to contact my IP provider to see if they can influence my geolocation to something recognized as my actual location. I went through where I last lived .. but they could not help ; still about half the time then is was blacked out and the other half it worked. No idea why.

No idea if Bell/TSN uses an API to one of these services/databases .. but there is a decent chance.

If I set my VPN location to Montreal , which is inside the Sens viewing area which is supposed to include all of Quebec it behaves exactly the same as I had mentioned in my earlier post

Interesting info and thoughts there SOA. You seem to be on the right track based on what I'd read. I just went through binding my VPN to my Torrent client and learning about DNS leaks that can occur on VPN's, so I wondered if it was something similar, but my knowledge on this and IT is limited.

So far, it is working on my phone on TSN Go for the game tonight with the location changer app, but for some reason the game listing is showing as starting an hour later than the game did start, and I had to select a Sportscenter listing, so we'll see in about 40 minutes, but so far so good on my phone at least.

Yeah this has been happening to me for ages.

It works on my Bell app from my phone, but not on my smart TV or my laptop. I just airplay it from my phone onto my TV so it’s really been only a minor inconvenience but it’s stupid. For me it never works on my tv and I’ve tried a bunch. Hope they get to the bottom of it.

I have a Sony Smart TV (Google software) and have never had a problem watching Senators games on either TSN nor Sportnet in Ottawa on Bell FIBE service.

When I travel to Guelph, Ontario and tried to access Senators games via TSN from a motel via the Internet, TSN will not provide the game to me. Bell says I can watch Senators games anytime anywhere as a subscriber. Not me!

That's so dumb for both of you. Fix your shit TSN. We all know they pay a lot for this contract, so you'd think they'd have a vested interest to fix this too and treat it with some urgency, but it sounds like loads of inquiries have fallen on deaf ears with their customer service that is surely complete ass like everyone else providing "customer service" these days.

Going through that old thread game me PTSD.

Those two posters plus some others that shall not be named turned this place into a toxic dump while Melnyk was still owner. In fact I still suspect some of them were related to or hired by Melnyk lol. All they did was go around blaming fans even as the org was falling apart and then they sort of vanished when he died.

Even Adrianopoulos can't even hold a candle to how awful those posters were.

It was incredibly irritating, but I also feel somewhat vindicated now, so at least I finally got the end result I wanted. A real NHL owner ready to do what it takes and hire actually competent management. It's been refreshing to enjoy this hobby more even if there's lots of work left.

 

[AchtzehnBaby]

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[AchtzehnBaby]

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Every game. It's on...this is what the guide shows.

Was at my favorite watering hole tonight, that is usually able to play the game.... no dice tonight