TSN’s Top 50 NHL Players for 2024-25

[Lemontree]

i wouldn't call an entire career's worth of playoff games cherry picking....that's sort of the entire sample, not a portion of it.

Its cherry picking if you chose to ignore what a player has done over the course of their regular season career.

 

[Sasha Orlov]

Its cherry picking if you chose to ignore what a player has done over the course of their regular season career.

To be clear your argument is that Leon Draisaitl should be judged based on Stanley Cup Finals points and Matthews should be judged on regular season stats

Lmfao

 

[Sidney the Kidney]

The childish squabbling is always funny. Love how fans take it personal when somebody says their player should be lower or whatever. It really doesn’t matter. If we discuss the list as adults, without taking shit personal, I think Leon is a top 3 player. 4 is too low for him. I'd swap Leon and Matthews. It’s very minor, no need to argue over things like this lol.

To be honest, I'd put Kucherov ahead of both.

 

[Canadienna]

It should be a requirement to be a playoff performer to be considered a top player in the NHL.

Then you are measuring something else.

McDavid missed the playoffs when he was clearly one of the best in the world. Are you really going to not call him a top 50 player because he didn't make the playoffs and put some 60 point winger in there ahead of him?

 

[ViD]

where’s Ovechkin ?

 

[Lemontree]

Your argument is incoherent

No, it isn't. You just need to read. You want to dismiss Matthews regular seasons because he hasn't produced to the same level in the playoffs, "it's almost like one matters more".

If rounds 1 & 2 are more important than all 82 regular season games, then the Stanley Cup finals are more important than any other round of the playoffs. When the lights got the brightest and the games mattered the most, Draistail disappeared.

It’s almost like one matters more

To be clear your argument is that Leon Draisaitl should be judged based on Stanley Cup Finals points and Matthews should be judged on regular season stats

Lmfao

NO, that is not my argument. You might want to go back and read from the beginning. If you actually care about debating however I'm sure you will just do your usual one sentence quip and move on.

 

[Sasha Orlov]

No, it isn't. You just need to read. You want to dismiss Matthews regular seasons because he hasn't produced to the same level in the playoffs, "it's almost like one matters more".

If rounds 1 & 2 are more important than all 82 regular season games, then the Stanley Cup finals are more important than any other round of the playoffs. When the lights got the brightest and the games mattered the most, Draistail disappeared.




NO, that is not my argument. You might want to go back and read from the beginning. If you actually care about debating however I'm sure you will just do your usual one sentence quip and move on.

I don’t care about debating bc there’s nothing to debate here you’re just incorrect

 

[jackjohnson]

It should be a requirement to be a playoff performer to be considered a top player in the NHL.

I guess Matthews wont be top 50 then, nevermind top 3

 

[Czechboy]

I was expecting only pasta but am hoping Necas and Hronek start entering the late 40s

 

[Lemontree]

I don’t care about debating bc there’s nothing to debate here you’re just incorrect

What is incorrect? You discount Matthews as a player based on his inability to elevate his game in the playoffs and don't seem to care at all what he does during the regular season.

I point out that it seems hypocritical because Draistail completely disappeared in the Stanley Cup finals but apparently that shouldn't be mentioned regarding where he ranks as a player.

Also, if you haven't looked it up as of yet, what would you guess Matthews playoffs numbers look like? I bet they aren't as bad as you think they are.

 

[Sasha Orlov]

What is incorrect? You discount Matthews as a player based on his inability to elevate his game in the playoffs and don't seem to care at all what he does during the regular season.

I point out that it seems hypocritical because Draistail completely disappeared in the Stanley Cup finals but apparently that shouldn't be mentioned regarding where he ranks as a player.

Also, if you haven't looked it up as of yet, what would you guess Matthews playoffs numbers look like? I bet they aren't as bad as you think they are.

They’re so much worse than Drai’s it’s not even funny

 

[Lemontree]

Typical Habs fan.

 

[LOFIN]

Not a horrible list apart from having Rantanen higher than Barkov and I’m sure Avs fans would agree with me.

Well I don't know if that's "horrible". You can make a case for both, even if Barkov is the hot commodity once again now that he's the reigning cup winner's captain. Rantanen is just that much better offensively.

 

[DackellDuck]

Matthews isn’t better than Draisaitl, and will not be in the future.

 

[Golden_Jet]

Aren't you cherry picking the 55 playoff games (23g & 25a = 48 points) for Matthews as opposed to his 562 regular season games played (368g & 281a = 649 points)?

You cherry picked one series for the player
I countered with the 23/24 playoffs for both.

You showed one series of the four, and are chirping me, that I didn’t use the 82 game regular season. That’s gold.

 

[Soundwave]

What is incorrect? You discount Matthews as a player based on his inability to elevate his game in the playoffs and don't seem to care at all what he does during the regular season.

I point out that it seems hypocritical because Draistail completely disappeared in the Stanley Cup finals but apparently that shouldn't be mentioned regarding where he ranks as a player.

Also, if you haven't looked it up as of yet, what would you guess Matthews playoffs numbers look like? I bet they aren't as bad as you think they are.

When Matthews has the 2nd highest playoff PPG in the modern era of hockey and puts up an NHL record 17 points in a 5 game playoff series against the Leafs main rival while playing half crippled on one leg, he too can enjoy the benefit of the doubt once in a while.

Until then it rings hollow.

 

[PaulD]

Personally I woukd take Draisaitl over Matthews ...... performing at play off hockey it's not even close.
Shesterkin over Hughes .....any of them.

 

[Tie Domi Esquire]

Then you are measuring something else.

McDavid missed the playoffs when he was clearly one of the best in the world. Are you really going to not call him a top 50 player because he didn't make the playoffs and put some 60 point winger in there ahead of him?

Not being in the playoffs isn't the same as not being a playoff performer.

 

[Breakers]

Swayman has like 2 vezina votes
Demko finishes 2nd in vezina voting
There is 5 goalies that made this list

Make it make sense

Not even saying Demko should be a top 50 player
But if 5 franking goaltenders made it and he didnt?

 

[Canadienna]

Delete

 

[crowi]

TSN aka Toronto Sports Network would of course have their boys up high. So many fans are fine with trash performances that I'm not surprised they think they're getting a good performance.

 

[BraveCanadian]

Nylander ahead of Marner is a funny take imo

 

[Tie Domi Esquire]

Nobody said it was.

I didn't even bring up playoff performances. I pointed out your asinine take would have kept McDavid off the top50 list for a number of years.

Now you're just making stuff up.

 

[LOFIN]

Demko

Demko

He's just not healthy enough as it stands right now.

Peter Forsberg was arguably one of the better forwards in the game. His inability to stay healthy keep him away from that discussion.

 

[Puckstuff]

I feel like they put Matthews over Kucherov for the outrage and to drive clicks. Matthews/Drai at 4/5 is a good debate though imo.