Speculation: Trotz: "If we don't get it going, then I'm going to start our rebuild plan."

BB88

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As said before Nashville has been building a team that’s not good enough go contend, not bad enough to draft game changing players

Who could have ever guessed it’s not the best plan??

But good thing Nashville has such an amazing farm system we’ve been hearing about for years….
 

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Thats what happen when you sign a bunch of player around 33/35 years old. This was rookie mistake made by Barry trotz. Now, good luck to get rid of them. It remember me when Gainey was signing many old timer. 33/34 years old today is player at 37/38 tears old back in the day. The league is younger, overall the beginning of declining starts earlier
 

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People like to make fun, but as a neutral fan I love that Nashville went all-in this summer. I wish more teams did that more often. I know Vegas has been good at doing that over the years. I hope it works out for Nashville, and still think it will work out, it just might take them a little bit to get going.

Rebuilds are overrated. "hey lets trade everyone whose good away, and let's lose endlessly, and if we luck out maybe we draft a couple of good players". Loser mentality
 

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Rebuild is propably not the right word for it. I don't think they are screwed long-term but this season might be heading towards the toilet. They do have 3 1st rounders and 2 2nd rounders already for the next draft so re-tooling shouldn't be that hard even if they wanted to stay competitive next season.
 

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How are you rebuilding with all those vets and contracts? You can only retain on 3 contracts and many other top teams that would want the better Preds players don't have cap to acquire them.
 

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You're going to start the rebuild at the start of thr season when everybody is up against the cap. Sure Barry. Sounds more like a sad attempt at a jedi mind trick to get the players to start going
 
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You're going to start the rebuild at the start of thr season when everybody is up against the cap. Sure Barry. Sounds more like a sad attempt at a jedi mind trick to get the players to start going
"Start the rebuild plan" doesn't mean "I want to make every move immediately." Trotz was making moves over the summer in hopes of putting the team into a competitive spot. It doesn't look promising so far. If it continues down that road, he is changing plans. A lot of folks seem to be basing their judgment of this idea on the misconception that any rebuild would take place in a short window of time that would be impacted by the older players on the team. That's simply not the case. As was already pointed out, the contracts signed over the summer really won't have an impact on the team as it rebuilds unless the roster begins to gel, and then the plan can change or some players may be easier to move.
 
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How are you rebuilding with all those vets and contracts? You can only retain on 3 contracts and many other top teams that would want the better Preds players don't have cap to acquire them.
We're already in the middle of a rebuild with our prospect pool and the amount of picks we have. He says in the interview that Jodi, Forsberg Saros and the guys we signed this year aren't going anywhere and that he might have to move other pieces for younger players to play.
 

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More assets to trade.

Stamkos at 50% might get an asset.

But really Nashville would have a lot of enticing assets at the TDL. If they had a firesale, they could stock the cupboards in draft picks.
I still think you are right about the Stamkos buyout being the way he comes back to Tampa. I don't even know who they move in order to make the money work
 

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People like to make fun, but as a neutral fan I love that Nashville went all-in this summer. I wish more teams did that more often. I know Vegas has been good at doing that over the years. I hope it works out for Nashville, and still think it will work out, it just might take them a little bit to get going.

Rebuilds are overrated. "hey lets trade everyone whose good away, and let's lose endlessly, and if we luck out maybe we draft a couple of good players". Loser mentality
It's a loser mentality that was a key, if not the most important part, of Florida, Colorado, Tampa Bay, St. Louis, Washington, Pittsburgh, Chicago, and LA winning their cups. I'm not saying rebuilding is always the answer or just drafting high is all it takes, but bottoming out is, at the very least, an avenue to a cup.
 

glenngineer

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Nashville is in horrible shape.

They suck
They are old
They all have long term deals
While this is pretty spot on, you left out a coach who won't play younger talent. Parssinen and Tomasino have been scratched most of the season, as has Fabbro. Parssinen, Tomasino and Evangelista were the best line against the Caps last night. Zack L'Hereux is finding his footing in the lineup.

Guys like McCarron, Jankowski and Smith are all redundant pieces that don't bring a lot of speed or talent to the lineup.

We have guys like Kemell and Svechkov in Milwaukee, hopefully about to take the next step sooner than later.

I'd prefer two young lines and two vet lines OR a mishmash of the talent so you have some young legs on each line.

I'm not terribly optimistic to be honest but the kids need to play.
 

Romang67

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No He's not, he can't.

Marsh, Stamkos, ROR, Saros, Schenn and Forsberg all have term.

There is no rebuild coming
Some of those should be easily tradable. If ROR is on the table, I'd want Cheveldayoff to jump on that. Saros has been one of the best goalies in the league over the past 5 years. Forsberg is Swedish. Lots of things to be excited about.
 
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beardawg

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Thats what happen when you sign a bunch of player around 33/35 years old. This was rookie mistake made by Barry trotz. Now, good luck to get rid of them. It remember me when Gainey was signing many old timer. 33/34 years old today is player at 37/38 tears old back in the day. The league is younger, overall the beginning of declining starts earlier
The rebuild plan is to keep those guys around during development of the younger players. They won't need that cap space untol the young guns mature anyway
 

glenngineer

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I don't see any realistic way to rebuild, they are committed to a lot of guys for a lot of years. Saros's new deal hasn't even started. They could maybe retool and accept they are missing the playoffs this season, push some young kids up the lineup, move Nyqvist and Fabbro for futures and try get ready for next year.
Signing Saros to a long-term deal was a big mistake. He was coming off a decent year but not one that warranted the deal he got. I get Trotz was thinking he was all in and that was a risky play. Moving Askarov compounded this error with the way the team has played out of the blocks.

I would've moved Saros and let Korn do his magic with Askarov. I would still move Saros before the NMC kicks in but the problem is, we went from a team with Saros, Lankinen and Askarov in net to Saros, Wedgewood and Murray, which is a huge downgrade so if you move Saros, you literally have no goalie depth. Poor asset management.
 
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voyageur

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We're already in the middle of a rebuild with our prospect pool and the amount of picks we have. He says in the interview that Jodi, Forsberg Saros and the guys we signed this year aren't going anywhere and that he might have to move other pieces for younger players to play.
Hard to trade guys with NMC, but you go down the list. O'Reilly would be worth a lot, but losing your top centre would be a huge setback.

Nyqvist and Fabbro are likely gone. Sissons and Schenn would be valuable to playoff teams.

I don't think there is a market for Mc Carron or Cole Smith but I could be wrong. The rebuild is likely just a promotion for all those Milwaukee guys who need to move up. And some more draft picks to work with.

I'd expect a coaching change first.
 
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