Player Discussion Trevor Zegras : Part III

[DavidBL]

Good.. He needs to watch himself... Hes gonna put a target on his back now.. Kid has guts.. But sometimes you need to pick your battles wisely...

I actually don't hate the move by him. He's going to be targeted his whole career. League has to know he's not above defending himself with a dirty short.

 

[bsu]

Good.. He needs to watch himself... Hes gonna put a target on his back now.. Kid has guts.. But sometimes you need to pick your battles wisely...

You don't want him doing this?

 

[Ducks DVM]

Absolutely stupid, selfish play on his part. Talks about how he can’t be taking a high stick penalty late in a close game and then does this over a nothing play.

 

[Vinegar Strokes]

I’m fine with Z having a bit of Crosby/Malkin in him. Both those players know how to give a good cheap shot and it served them well.

It’s going to be a problem though if we don’t sign some protection for him though.

 

[The Midnight Burrito]

Trying to figure out exactly what Z was reacting to and I don't see it. If he was pissed at Benning for something Benning did, it was for some other shift. Was he just annoyed that he lost a puck battle?

 

[Frosted Tips]

Don't know why he did that but that definitely should've had been called as a spear which it was.

 

[LuGBuG]

Good on him showing he doesn’t put up with shit and won’t be pushed around. Who cares about the fine and who cares about the penalty in the regular season. Him showing he has a set is better for his future then anything else.

 

[Static]

Good on him showing he doesn’t put up with shit and won’t be pushed around. Who cares about the fine and who cares about the penalty in the regular season. Him showing he has a set is better for his future then anything else.

If anything he's opening himself up to guys doing cheap shit to get under his skin. Looking at that play it doesn't take much.

 

[Ducks DVM]

Good on him showing he doesn’t put up with shit and won’t be pushed around. Who cares about the fine and who cares about the penalty in the regular season. Him showing he has a set is better for his future then anything else.

Everyone should care about the fine. It means he now has a history with DOPS that can be taken into account with future unnecessary but suspendible actions to increase the penalties.

 

[LuGBuG]

If anything he's opening himself up to guys doing cheap shit to get under his skin. Looking at that play it doesn't take much.

Guys are going to do that no matter what. In a playoff series they aren’t going to look at this clip and say “oh we better play him hard and try to get under his skin”. He’s going to be our best player and they will be doing that anyway. Although a guy make think twice if he doesn’t wanna get speared in the balls.

Everyone should care about the fine. It means he now has a history with DOPS that can be taken into account with future unnecessary but suspendible actions to increase the penalties.

He isn’t a head hunter. He will be fine. If he gets an extra game 2 years from now for something dumb because of this it doesn’t matter.

 

[The Midnight Burrito]

If anything he's opening himself up to guys doing cheap shit to get under his skin. Looking at that play it doesn't take much.

It was a weird choice at that moment but I think, big-picture, it's a good sign. If he can refine that instinct into a reputation as a pest who will hurt you, without turning into a penalty magnet, then I think he and the team will be better off, especially since it seems protection is not a top priority for PV.

 

[Static]

It was a weird choice at that moment but I think, big-picture, it's a good sign. If he can refine that instinct into a reputation as a pest who will hurt you, without turning into a penalty magnet, then I think he and the team will be better off, especially since it seems protection is not a top priority for PV.

Without turning into a penalty magnet is the key, as is the retaliatory aspect. Perry was such a master at it because he instigated so often that he was never the one retaliating and getting caught.

 

[The Midnight Burrito]

Without turning into a penalty magnet is the key, as is the retaliatory aspect. Perry was such a master at it because he instigated so often that he was never the one retaliating and getting caught.

I agree in principle and yet Pears is the franchise leader in PIMs, and not all that far behind a guy like Des in PIM/game. But of course Pears had like 40 fights while he was here, too, so....

 

[bsu]

I'll forever love players like Perry. Players you love to play with and hate to play against. Too bad our team barely has any of those.

 

[bsu]

He chose LaMelo Ball and Nick Kyrgios as the 2 athletes he would want to be.... Yikes

 

[bsu]

 

[Leonardo87]

They gave an assist to Z on the late Henrique goal. 2 point night, has 12 points in 12 games now. He seems to be playing better defensively, is one of the few players who is even or + . Still makes these poor decision passes, needs to be more aware with that, but he is winning more face offs and checking more.

 

[Quack Shot]

They gave an assist to Z on the late Henrique goal. 2 point night, has 12 points in 12 games now. He seems to be playing better defensively, is one of the few players who is even or + . Still makes these poor decision passes, needs to be more aware with that, but he is winning more face offs and checking more.

Big reason I think is his face offs have improved tremendously.

 

[The Midnight Burrito]

I feel like you could almost see the moment a few games back where he decided to start taking this season seriously. Maybe the game before the meeting? But since then he's been physical and engaged and still making some poor decisions, but they aren't lazy decisions. Plus he's been kind of funneling his anger in a good way (mostly). Last night for example he dragged Gadjovich off of Benoit because no one else was going to do it obviously (thanks, PV!).

Anyway he's really coming around, he's noticeable on most of his shifts now.

 

[Leonardo87]

I feel like you could almost see the moment a few games back where he decided to start taking this season seriously. Maybe the game before the meeting? But since then he's been physical and engaged and still making some poor decisions, but they aren't lazy decisions. Plus he's been kind of funneling his anger in a good way (mostly). Last night for example he dragged Gadjovich off of Benoit because no one else was going to do it obviously (thanks, PV!).

Anyway he's really coming around, he's noticeable on most of his shifts now.

Z’s overall game is improving and he is still producing. It makes me excited because he has the potential to really be a legit elite 1C in the league but yeah those bad decision passes he needs to be smarter there and if he is pressured, keep it simple.

Funny you mentioned him pulling a guy off Benoit, not only was I not surprised they didn’t get a PP, but I was shocked they didn’t call one on Z and make them go short handed again.

That is how bad the reffing has been. I hate complaining about the refs , every team has their unfair moments but the Ducks take the prize in that regard.

I actually was fine with the off-side goal standing but those goalie interference calls or non-calls the last couple of games were brutal. Plus, they missed a blatant interference call on Stolarz last night.

I don’t know what goalie interference is anymore and I don’t think the refs or the NHL do either, lol

 

[Mr Rogers]

The pass across to Comer was superb. Getzlafian

 

[Sean Garrity]

The pass across to Comer was superb. Getzlafian

His understanding of when to feather vs wire a pass is superb, as well as the hands and vision to do either. That was a pretty little feathered pass that Comtois could skate on to.

 

[ohcomeonref]

I think Z turned his season around in that game where he scored a goal and instead of hot dogging around he just glared, stone serious. That was a couple games ago but I forget which.

 

[FiveHoleTickler]

I think Z turned his season down in that game where he scored a goal and instead of hot dogging around he just glared, stone serious. That was a couple games ago but I forget which.

That was right after Eakins benched him for a few shifts IIRC

 

[The Midnight Burrito]

That was right after Eakins benched him for a few shifts IIRC

And I think he said as much himself. Or implied it. Not that we're supposed to give credit to Eakins for ever making a good call in teaching these kids.