Player Discussion Trent Frederic II

[PlayMakers]

I'm actually curious about how Trent sees his own game these days. Does he fancy himself a skilled forward now that is out there to score goals? He was a different player in the AHL and when he first came up, and I wonder if that was just him doing what he thought he needed to do to make the NHL but was never really the player he wanted to be. For a long time we heard certain people claim that the Bruins were "neutering" (LOL) their guys- Bruce, or Sweeney, or Monty or whoever. Kastelic doesn't appear neutered to me, so I guess it's Frederic wanting to be a different type of player. Unlike Brad, who reinvented himself to some extent (oh if Trent had Brad's drive), Trent doesn't seem to have the skill to play the game he seems to want to.

Or, you know, I am just full of shit here, which wouldn't be the first time in my life, but I really am curious as to what's happened with this guy.

I think he's thought of himself that way for 2-3 years.

I just wish he would try to get himself involved in the game if he's not scoring. It's a Sunday skate for him. He has to know the offense isn't there and that he can make an impact in other ways, he's just flat out choosing not to.

I'm hard on the guy because I just expect more. It's the whole "I'm not mad, I'm just disappointed" type of thing.

He's shown he can play the pest.
He's shown he can draw penalties and be a physical player
He's shown he can occasionally drop the gloves.
He's shown he has a scoring touch.
He's shown he has good on ice offensive instincts.

The first 3 he can absolutely control if he's not scoring. The first 3 are 100% a choice.

He's also shown he can be a great forechecker with his long reach, and back checker with his good straight line speed. He can control those elements of his game too and that's what I keep hoping to see, but it hasn't been there on a consistent basis, and a game like tonight against the Isles it's especially frustrating.

 

[neelynugs]

even in a down year this guy is valued around the league. i could see someone offering up a late 1st for him.
heard last week the oilers were poking around on him.

 

[BigGoalBrad]

We should do something like Karlsson 50% retained for Carlo and Freddy.

Get the PP QB and let McAvoy and Peeke focus on defending on the right side.

 

[chizzler]

Is this kid hurt? Seems weird he isn’t noticeable in any way.

 

[Guelph Bruin]

Is this kid hurt? Seems weird he isn’t noticeable in any way.

He's not hurt, he's just Freddy ....whole career shows up every 3rd or 4th game. His internal give a shit meter is sadly lacking....otherwise known as compete level....too bad because he has the skills to be a difference maker. Not sure if it can be fixed, sample size is large.

 

[KillerMillerTime]

We should do something like Karlsson 50% retained for Carlo and Freddy.

Get the PP QB and let McAvoy and Peeke focus on defending on the right side.

I doubt Pittsburgh is 50% retaining on Karlsson.

Trade Carlo for Kesselring and free up $3M in cap space for next year and whatever the amount is this year.

 

[Hookslide]

We should do something like Karlsson 50% retained for Carlo and Freddy.

Get the PP QB and let McAvoy and Peeke focus on defending on the right side.

OK ! Felger you got your click.........Can you tell me what you injected that turkey with.

 

[PB37]

I'd like to see Freddy break out of his slump ( home grown two way power forward when on his game ) but he is looking rough out there and in a contract year. I feel for him but the Bruins are probably at the point where they're identifying what spots could use upgrading and they have to be looking at Freddy right now.

 

[Hookslide]

I'd like to see Freddy break out of his slump ( home grown two way power forward when on his game ) but he is looking rough out there and in a contract year. I feel for him but the Bruins are probably at the point where they're identifying what spots could use upgrading and they have to be looking at Freddy right now.

You know just maybe try him at center, his natural position, put him with Marchand, and put the greatest, 8 mil away from the play center, on wing. I think Freddy is now just plain pressing give him a chance, and see what happens.

 

[PlayMakers]

I don't like his urgency or intensity right now. IMO he doesn't deserve to move up the lineup, he deserves a seat in the stands, but that would hurt his trade value and at this point, that's starting to look like the best thing he can do for the Bruins.

 

[Sheppy]

He might not be able to control a few things, but the things he absolutely can, he's simply not doing.

 

[Thirty Seven]

Most of the time he's the guy at work that puts in enough effort to look busy but is doing nothing

 

[Blowfish]

Trade

 

[neelynugs]

i liked fred when he was a shit disturber in his first year in the NHL.

since then, he's a rollercoaster. when it's good, it's good. when it's not, it's not.
can't pay guys like him $5M+, it's bad business. and someone will overpay him
because when he's on his game, he can score, hit, fight and do all the stuff teams
like. at this point, trade him for a late 1st round pick and find more speed/skill.
i don't love losing gritty players but this team isn't soft anymore.

 

[CharasLazyWrister]

We should do something like Karlsson 50% retained for Carlo and Freddy.

Get the PP QB and let McAvoy and Peeke focus on defending on the right side.

Team is in need of offense at the forward position, not the back IMO. Karlsson also gives negative f***s about defense. It drives me crazy enough watching him “defend” on other teams, nevermind on the one I root for.

This team isn’t becoming a goal scoring team with or without Karlsson. All we would get is a few more goals forward and way more conceded. Just a terrible idea.

 

[Over the volcano]

i liked fred when he was a shit disturber in his first year in the NHL.

since then, he's a rollercoaster. when it's good, it's good. when it's not, it's not.
can't pay guys like him $5M+, it's bad business. and someone will overpay him
because when he's on his game, he can score, hit, fight and do all the stuff teams
like. at this point, trade him for a late 1st round pick and find more speed/skill.
i don't love losing gritty players but this team isn't soft anymore.

That's pretty much it.

It's a shame that Jones and Tufte didn't get any traction this year- would have made that spot in the lineup deep enough to let TFred go without too much of a hiccup in the lineup.

 

[NDiesel]

i liked fred when he was a shit disturber in his first year in the NHL.

since then, he's a rollercoaster. when it's good, it's good. when it's not, it's not.
can't pay guys like him $5M+, it's bad business. and someone will overpay him
because when he's on his game, he can score, hit, fight and do all the stuff teams
like. at this point, trade him for a late 1st round pick and find more speed/skill.
i don't love losing gritty players but this team isn't soft anymore.

You would have to think there's no way he gets paid more than what Dakota Joshua just did if he continues this trend...at 3.25 mil or less I think there's an argument for keeping him, but I'd rather see if we can get an asset.

 

[ODAAT]

zero bump to his overall game under Sacco, move his ass out

 

[BigGoalBrad]

I'd sign him Coyle is awful and dragged him down next team isn't getting a total steal but hell be a 4 m guy for about 3.

 

[MarchysNoseKnows]

I'd sign him Coyle is awful and dragged him down next team isn't getting a total steal but hell be a 4 m guy for about 3.

Thought you were dumping him for picks and making the playoffs?