Well I’m not sure they drafted Frederic for his goal scoring and more to be at most a 3rd line center. Probably the type of player you can land in the second maybe even third round.
No surprise they reached.
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I hope ZS gets a chance somewhere else for his own sake, it’s not working here.
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It’s a huge fail on the organizations part if your drafting a guy in the first round to be “ at most” 3rd line guy. More likely to be a fourth liner
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I mean...they passed on Debrincat who is from a similar mold, so there's your answer.
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Five Questions with Nevin Markwart
NHL.com's Q&A feature called "Five Questions With ..." runs every Tuesday. We talk to key figures in the game and ask them questions to gain insight into their lives, careers and the latest news.
The latest edition features Nevin Markwart, who was selected by the Boston Bruins in the first round (No. 21) of the 1983 NHL Draft. Markwart played all but 10 games over his eight NHL seasons with the Bruins. He retired from the Calgary Flames following the 1991-92 season because of a chronic shoulder injury after scoring 109 points (41 goals, 68 assists) in 309 NHL games.
After retiring from hockey, Markwart has spent the past 25 years in the business world, working for more than two decades in wealth management before switching his focus earlier this year to cybersecurity with FutureVault, a document storage and utilization company.
Nevin Markwart has taken a road less traveled, but no less interesting, since he retired from the NHL after eight seasons, most with the Boston Bruins, following the 1991-92 season.
After earning a Master of Business Administration from Northeastern University, Markwart had forged a second career in finance. Now he is working in the computer field after earning a Master of Science in cybersecurity from Brown University in 2019.
"I was always strong academically," the 55-year-old said. "I was actually offered entrance into Princeton [University] when I was 16, but where I grew up in Western Canada, to be quite frank, we didn't know what that was and so we turned it down; it was just too far away. My first year on the Bruins, I actually took a computer science course at Boston College. It was an evening course, but it was very difficult to make the classes because we are on the road quite a bit as an NHL team.
"That experience resulted in me concluding that I needed to save up enough money being an NHL hockey player so that I could pay for myself to go to school when I was done, and that is essentially what I did."
Markwart said his jobs after hockey are rooted in the things he learned on the ice: teamwork, camaraderie, having the backs of those he played with and hard work. With the Bruins, Markwart saw himself as a protector of more skilled teammates on some pretty talented teams; he led Boston in penalty minutes during the 1985-86 and 1986-87 seasons.
In his wealth management career, he protected the investments of individuals and corporations with the same tenacity, he said. Now, with FutureVault, he is being entrusted to protect data.
"I am a fiduciary for people's information," Markwart said. "As a cybersecurity expert, my job is to ensure that individuals and organizations like corporations and governments, that their information is secure so they can use their information to prosper. We've transitioned to an information age like nothing we have ever seen before with the development of things like smartphones and broadband communication. The industry has absolutely exploded and is changing society, is changing every facet of society. It's a very exciting area, and I'm excited for this next 10-15 years and helping people to manage the security of their information."
Here are Five Questions with … Nevin Markwart:
When you look back at the entirety of your professional careers, what stands out most for you?
I think the unknown nature of what's around the corner. I wasn't a hockey phenom. I was very average. I started to stand out a little bit when I was 16 and a lot when I was 18. My first year of junior, I didn't even make the Tier 1 team in Regina (of the Western Hockey League). I spent half that season with the Tier 2 team and got called up halfway through the year, and then the next year I was [ranked] eighth overall in the [NHL] Draft. So who could have seen that around the corner? I hurt my shoulder on Jan. 7 of my draft year and never played another [junior] game. The Bruins came in first the year before and had the last pick in the first round, and three months later I was in the starting lineup against the Montreal Canadiens. Again, I think I have been very fortunate that my preparation throughout my life has enabled me to take advantage of opportunities that have come around the corner unexpectedly.
Do you have a favorite Bruins memory from the nine years you spent there?
There are so many of them, they are kind of hard to separate away. I would say that the game that we finally beat Montreal in the playoffs (in the second round of the 1988 Stanley Cup Playoffs); we had not done it for so many series (four in a row). Those are the kind of memories that stick in my mind with a smile. The losses to [the] Edmonton [Oilers] in the [Stanley Cup] Final in 1988 and '90, they were great accomplishments, but we didn't quite get there, so those ones you still smile but you wish you had won a Stanley Cup. I think that is what every NHLer is always looking to attain. Then I go all the way back to the day after I got drafted. I flew all the way to Boston with (general manager) Harry Sinden, and he took me on a tour through Boston Garden and looking up at the banners, both the Bruins and the Celtics. I've always said, it was a great way to grow up. I was 18 years old, I was away from home, and the next nine years were my undergraduate education in life. I have two master's degrees today, but I don't have an undergraduate degree. My undergraduate degree was in hockey.
That 1983-84 Bruins team that you joined was filled with so many huge names like Ray Bourque, Terry O'Reilly, Mike Milbury and others that went on to have great careers in the game and after they quit playing. Did you have a sense when you walked into that room how special a room that was?
So an 18-year-old with a stall in an NHL dressing room just has your eyes wide, wide open all the time. I was fortunate that I played junior hockey for the Regina Pats, and it is the longest continuously running hockey franchise in Canada, so it takes you back to World War I and therefore it has, and had, a long legacy of tradition, which was very comfortable to me when I got to Boston because Boston had the exact same thing. My captain was Terry O'Reilly, and years and years later my parents told me a story about how about a month into the season, Terry called my parents in Saskatchewan and told my parents that they did not need to worry about me, that the team was going to take care of me. Being in that locker room was a familiar place, it was a place all about team. People backed each other up, people relied on each other. I took those lessons into business, and they have been very, very helpful as I have developed companies and developed individuals on their career journeys.
Tell me a bit about your latest career challenge with FutureVault?
What FutureVault is endeavoring to do from a vision perspective is to create a document ecosystem, which today doesn't really exist. In a document ecosystem, I know where my document is, I know that it is secure, and I know that is accessible; and I can also do things like giving permission to other trusted advisers to have access to it for limited periods of time or a longer period of time; and whenever someone accesses a document, there is an auditable trail that said so-and-so read it, so-and-so printed it, so-and-so downloaded it. It has a trail that tells you whenever a document gets touched. What that gives an individual or an organization is that sense of comfort that your documents are all in one place, that they are super, super secure, no one is going to be able to fuss with them, and if they do there will be a trail and you will be able to understand who and when someone accessed your documents.
As you look at kids coming into the League now, what do you say to that 18-year-old kid that is going to be the next one in that professional dressing room?
I believe success comes from a combination of preparation and opportunity, and an 18-year-old that has been drafted in the first round has been given both. They have prepared to be in the spot that they are in and they are getting a tremendous opportunity. In the early part of your career, there has to be tremendous focus on the specific attributes that you, as a player, possess that make you what I call a domain-area expert; you're one of the best skaters in the League, one of the best shooters, one of the best defenders, one of the best face-off people in the League. I've always believed that you have to identify in your inventory of skill set two or three areas where you are better than anyone else in the world and you really need to focus on those areas and make sure you stay at that level. As you transition through your career, I believe that players need to think very seriously about life after hockey. Whether you are a three-year player or a seven-year player or 11-year player, you will live for decades after you are done your career, and the preparation for that next phase of your life doesn't start when you retire from professional hockey. Just in the way that I said success comes from preparation and opportunity, there will be a lot of opportunities on the other side of your career. Remember, some guys only get one year, some guys only get 20 games. I would say to players: Focus on the areas that you are the greatest hockey expert at and maintain that strong skill set, and you should be thinking about how to prepare for the next phase of your life. And I don't think those two things interfere with each other, which may be the common view today. I would rail against that. I don't believe that to be the case.
NHL.com's Q&A feature called "Five Questions With ..." runs every Tuesday. We talk to key figures in the game and ask them questions to gain insight into their lives, careers and the latest news.
The latest edition features Nevin Markwart, who was selected by the Boston Bruins in the first round (No. 21) of the 1983 NHL Draft. Markwart played all but 10 games over his eight NHL seasons with the Bruins. He retired from the Calgary Flames following the 1991-92 season because of a chronic shoulder injury after scoring 109 points (41 goals, 68 assists) in 309 NHL games.
After retiring from hockey, Markwart has spent the past 25 years in the business world, working for more than two decades in wealth management before switching his focus earlier this year to cybersecurity with FutureVault, a document storage and utilization company.
Nevin Markwart has taken a road less traveled, but no less interesting, since he retired from the NHL after eight seasons, most with the Boston Bruins, following the 1991-92 season.
After earning a Master of Business Administration from Northeastern University, Markwart had forged a second career in finance. Now he is working in the computer field after earning a Master of Science in cybersecurity from Brown University in 2019.
"I was always strong academically," the 55-year-old said. "I was actually offered entrance into Princeton [University] when I was 16, but where I grew up in Western Canada, to be quite frank, we didn't know what that was and so we turned it down; it was just too far away. My first year on the Bruins, I actually took a computer science course at Boston College. It was an evening course, but it was very difficult to make the classes because we are on the road quite a bit as an NHL team.
"That experience resulted in me concluding that I needed to save up enough money being an NHL hockey player so that I could pay for myself to go to school when I was done, and that is essentially what I did."
Markwart said his jobs after hockey are rooted in the things he learned on the ice: teamwork, camaraderie, having the backs of those he played with and hard work. With the Bruins, Markwart saw himself as a protector of more skilled teammates on some pretty talented teams; he led Boston in penalty minutes during the 1985-86 and 1986-87 seasons.
In his wealth management career, he protected the investments of individuals and corporations with the same tenacity, he said. Now, with FutureVault, he is being entrusted to protect data.
"I am a fiduciary for people's information," Markwart said. "As a cybersecurity expert, my job is to ensure that individuals and organizations like corporations and governments, that their information is secure so they can use their information to prosper. We've transitioned to an information age like nothing we have ever seen before with the development of things like smartphones and broadband communication. The industry has absolutely exploded and is changing society, is changing every facet of society. It's a very exciting area, and I'm excited for this next 10-15 years and helping people to manage the security of their information."
Here are Five Questions with … Nevin Markwart:
When you look back at the entirety of your professional careers, what stands out most for you?
I think the unknown nature of what's around the corner. I wasn't a hockey phenom. I was very average. I started to stand out a little bit when I was 16 and a lot when I was 18. My first year of junior, I didn't even make the Tier 1 team in Regina (of the Western Hockey League). I spent half that season with the Tier 2 team and got called up halfway through the year, and then the next year I was [ranked] eighth overall in the [NHL] Draft. So who could have seen that around the corner? I hurt my shoulder on Jan. 7 of my draft year and never played another [junior] game. The Bruins came in first the year before and had the last pick in the first round, and three months later I was in the starting lineup against the Montreal Canadiens. Again, I think I have been very fortunate that my preparation throughout my life has enabled me to take advantage of opportunities that have come around the corner unexpectedly.
Do you have a favorite Bruins memory from the nine years you spent there?
There are so many of them, they are kind of hard to separate away. I would say that the game that we finally beat Montreal in the playoffs (in the second round of the 1988 Stanley Cup Playoffs); we had not done it for so many series (four in a row). Those are the kind of memories that stick in my mind with a smile. The losses to [the] Edmonton [Oilers] in the [Stanley Cup] Final in 1988 and '90, they were great accomplishments, but we didn't quite get there, so those ones you still smile but you wish you had won a Stanley Cup. I think that is what every NHLer is always looking to attain. Then I go all the way back to the day after I got drafted. I flew all the way to Boston with (general manager) Harry Sinden, and he took me on a tour through Boston Garden and looking up at the banners, both the Bruins and the Celtics. I've always said, it was a great way to grow up. I was 18 years old, I was away from home, and the next nine years were my undergraduate education in life. I have two master's degrees today, but I don't have an undergraduate degree. My undergraduate degree was in hockey.
That 1983-84 Bruins team that you joined was filled with so many huge names like Ray Bourque, Terry O'Reilly, Mike Milbury and others that went on to have great careers in the game and after they quit playing. Did you have a sense when you walked into that room how special a room that was?
So an 18-year-old with a stall in an NHL dressing room just has your eyes wide, wide open all the time. I was fortunate that I played junior hockey for the Regina Pats, and it is the longest continuously running hockey franchise in Canada, so it takes you back to World War I and therefore it has, and had, a long legacy of tradition, which was very comfortable to me when I got to Boston because Boston had the exact same thing. My captain was Terry O'Reilly, and years and years later my parents told me a story about how about a month into the season, Terry called my parents in Saskatchewan and told my parents that they did not need to worry about me, that the team was going to take care of me. Being in that locker room was a familiar place, it was a place all about team. People backed each other up, people relied on each other. I took those lessons into business, and they have been very, very helpful as I have developed companies and developed individuals on their career journeys.
Tell me a bit about your latest career challenge with FutureVault?
What FutureVault is endeavoring to do from a vision perspective is to create a document ecosystem, which today doesn't really exist. In a document ecosystem, I know where my document is, I know that it is secure, and I know that is accessible; and I can also do things like giving permission to other trusted advisers to have access to it for limited periods of time or a longer period of time; and whenever someone accesses a document, there is an auditable trail that said so-and-so read it, so-and-so printed it, so-and-so downloaded it. It has a trail that tells you whenever a document gets touched. What that gives an individual or an organization is that sense of comfort that your documents are all in one place, that they are super, super secure, no one is going to be able to fuss with them, and if they do there will be a trail and you will be able to understand who and when someone accessed your documents.
As you look at kids coming into the League now, what do you say to that 18-year-old kid that is going to be the next one in that professional dressing room?
I believe success comes from a combination of preparation and opportunity, and an 18-year-old that has been drafted in the first round has been given both. They have prepared to be in the spot that they are in and they are getting a tremendous opportunity. In the early part of your career, there has to be tremendous focus on the specific attributes that you, as a player, possess that make you what I call a domain-area expert; you're one of the best skaters in the League, one of the best shooters, one of the best defenders, one of the best face-off people in the League. I've always believed that you have to identify in your inventory of skill set two or three areas where you are better than anyone else in the world and you really need to focus on those areas and make sure you stay at that level. As you transition through your career, I believe that players need to think very seriously about life after hockey. Whether you are a three-year player or a seven-year player or 11-year player, you will live for decades after you are done your career, and the preparation for that next phase of your life doesn't start when you retire from professional hockey. Just in the way that I said success comes from preparation and opportunity, there will be a lot of opportunities on the other side of your career. Remember, some guys only get one year, some guys only get 20 games. I would say to players: Focus on the areas that you are the greatest hockey expert at and maintain that strong skill set, and you should be thinking about how to prepare for the next phase of your life. And I don't think those two things interfere with each other, which may be the common view today. I would rail against that. I don't believe that to be the case.
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Wish they had just one of him to set the standard.Five Questions with Nevin Markwart
NHL.com's Q&A feature called "Five Questions With ..." runs every Tuesday. We talk to key figures in the game and ask them questions to gain insight into their lives, careers and the latest news.
The latest edition features Nevin Markwart, who was selected by the Boston Bruins in the first round (No. 21) of the 1983 NHL Draft. Markwart played all but 10 games over his eight NHL seasons with the Bruins. He retired from the Calgary Flames following the 1991-92 season because of a chronic shoulder injury after scoring 109 points (41 goals, 68 assists) in 309 NHL games.
After retiring from hockey, Markwart has spent the past 25 years in the business world, working for more than two decades in wealth management before switching his focus earlier this year to cybersecurity with FutureVault, a document storage and utilization company.
Nevin Markwart has taken a road less traveled, but no less interesting, since he retired from the NHL after eight seasons, most with the Boston Bruins, following the 1991-92 season.
After earning a Master of Business Administration from Northeastern University, Markwart had forged a second career in finance. Now he is working in the computer field after earning a Master of Science in cybersecurity from Brown University in 2019.
"I was always strong academically," the 55-year-old said. "I was actually offered entrance into Princeton [University] when I was 16, but where I grew up in Western Canada, to be quite frank, we didn't know what that was and so we turned it down; it was just too far away. My first year on the Bruins, I actually took a computer science course at Boston College. It was an evening course, but it was very difficult to make the classes because we are on the road quite a bit as an NHL team.
"That experience resulted in me concluding that I needed to save up enough money being an NHL hockey player so that I could pay for myself to go to school when I was done, and that is essentially what I did."
Markwart said his jobs after hockey are rooted in the things he learned on the ice: teamwork, camaraderie, having the backs of those he played with and hard work. With the Bruins, Markwart saw himself as a protector of more skilled teammates on some pretty talented teams; he led Boston in penalty minutes during the 1985-86 and 1986-87 seasons.
In his wealth management career, he protected the investments of individuals and corporations with the same tenacity, he said. Now, with FutureVault, he is being entrusted to protect data.
"I am a fiduciary for people's information," Markwart said. "As a cybersecurity expert, my job is to ensure that individuals and organizations like corporations and governments, that their information is secure so they can use their information to prosper. We've transitioned to an information age like nothing we have ever seen before with the development of things like smartphones and broadband communication. The industry has absolutely exploded and is changing society, is changing every facet of society. It's a very exciting area, and I'm excited for this next 10-15 years and helping people to manage the security of their information."
Here are Five Questions with … Nevin Markwart:
When you look back at the entirety of your professional careers, what stands out most for you?
I think the unknown nature of what's around the corner. I wasn't a hockey phenom. I was very average. I started to stand out a little bit when I was 16 and a lot when I was 18. My first year of junior, I didn't even make the Tier 1 team in Regina (of the Western Hockey League). I spent half that season with the Tier 2 team and got called up halfway through the year, and then the next year I was [ranked] eighth overall in the [NHL] Draft. So who could have seen that around the corner? I hurt my shoulder on Jan. 7 of my draft year and never played another [junior] game. The Bruins came in first the year before and had the last pick in the first round, and three months later I was in the starting lineup against the Montreal Canadiens. Again, I think I have been very fortunate that my preparation throughout my life has enabled me to take advantage of opportunities that have come around the corner unexpectedly.
Do you have a favorite Bruins memory from the nine years you spent there?
There are so many of them, they are kind of hard to separate away. I would say that the game that we finally beat Montreal in the playoffs (in the second round of the 1988 Stanley Cup Playoffs); we had not done it for so many series (four in a row). Those are the kind of memories that stick in my mind with a smile. The losses to [the] Edmonton [Oilers] in the [Stanley Cup] Final in 1988 and '90, they were great accomplishments, but we didn't quite get there, so those ones you still smile but you wish you had won a Stanley Cup. I think that is what every NHLer is always looking to attain. Then I go all the way back to the day after I got drafted. I flew all the way to Boston with (general manager) Harry Sinden, and he took me on a tour through Boston Garden and looking up at the banners, both the Bruins and the Celtics. I've always said, it was a great way to grow up. I was 18 years old, I was away from home, and the next nine years were my undergraduate education in life. I have two master's degrees today, but I don't have an undergraduate degree. My undergraduate degree was in hockey.
That 1983-84 Bruins team that you joined was filled with so many huge names like Ray Bourque, Terry O'Reilly, Mike Milbury and others that went on to have great careers in the game and after they quit playing. Did you have a sense when you walked into that room how special a room that was?
So an 18-year-old with a stall in an NHL dressing room just has your eyes wide, wide open all the time. I was fortunate that I played junior hockey for the Regina Pats, and it is the longest continuously running hockey franchise in Canada, so it takes you back to World War I and therefore it has, and had, a long legacy of tradition, which was very comfortable to me when I got to Boston because Boston had the exact same thing. My captain was Terry O'Reilly, and years and years later my parents told me a story about how about a month into the season, Terry called my parents in Saskatchewan and told my parents that they did not need to worry about me, that the team was going to take care of me. Being in that locker room was a familiar place, it was a place all about team. People backed each other up, people relied on each other. I took those lessons into business, and they have been very, very helpful as I have developed companies and developed individuals on their career journeys.
Tell me a bit about your latest career challenge with FutureVault?
What FutureVault is endeavoring to do from a vision perspective is to create a document ecosystem, which today doesn't really exist. In a document ecosystem, I know where my document is, I know that it is secure, and I know that is accessible; and I can also do things like giving permission to other trusted advisers to have access to it for limited periods of time or a longer period of time; and whenever someone accesses a document, there is an auditable trail that said so-and-so read it, so-and-so printed it, so-and-so downloaded it. It has a trail that tells you whenever a document gets touched. What that gives an individual or an organization is that sense of comfort that your documents are all in one place, that they are super, super secure, no one is going to be able to fuss with them, and if they do there will be a trail and you will be able to understand who and when someone accessed your documents.
As you look at kids coming into the League now, what do you say to that 18-year-old kid that is going to be the next one in that professional dressing room?
I believe success comes from a combination of preparation and opportunity, and an 18-year-old that has been drafted in the first round has been given both. They have prepared to be in the spot that they are in and they are getting a tremendous opportunity. In the early part of your career, there has to be tremendous focus on the specific attributes that you, as a player, possess that make you what I call a domain-area expert; you're one of the best skaters in the League, one of the best shooters, one of the best defenders, one of the best face-off people in the League. I've always believed that you have to identify in your inventory of skill set two or three areas where you are better than anyone else in the world and you really need to focus on those areas and make sure you stay at that level. As you transition through your career, I believe that players need to think very seriously about life after hockey. Whether you are a three-year player or a seven-year player or 11-year player, you will live for decades after you are done your career, and the preparation for that next phase of your life doesn't start when you retire from professional hockey. Just in the way that I said success comes from preparation and opportunity, there will be a lot of opportunities on the other side of your career. Remember, some guys only get one year, some guys only get 20 games. I would say to players: Focus on the areas that you are the greatest hockey expert at and maintain that strong skill set, and you should be thinking about how to prepare for the next phase of your life. And I don't think those two things interfere with each other, which may be the common view today. I would rail against that. I don't believe that to be the case.
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BruinDust
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This extension would lead to believe that to be true.
If Sweeney protects this player over other more valuable players of the same age it's just another case of this team overthinking things and trying to be smart and cute.
If they really want Frederic here for next year then fine. Truth is, I want him here to and see a role for him if he is here (4th line C).
But there are other ways to go about it. And not protecting your 7 most valuable trade pieces up front is the wrong path if the end goal is to keep Frederic too.
Seattle aren't sitting there salivating at the thought of Trent Frederic being available I can assure you of that.
People need to ask themselves........how hard is it to replace a Trent Frederic? Because if that is hard for an NHL GM, that person shouldn't be an NHL GM.
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Trent Frederic is what 22?
can we have a little patience
So Sweeney should be fired over picking Trent Frederic
got it
can we have a little patience
So Sweeney should be fired over picking Trent Frederic
got it
If only we had a silver ball. How the hell do we know what he is yet? Please don't say we know because we dont.
They can expose Debrusk, can't imagine Seattle takes him, especially at that AAV. If they do take him, there is your Debrusk trade. You're basically trading Debrusk for Clifton or Lauzon or Ritchie or Frederic.
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Hypothetically Sweeney gets fired and Jeff Gorton his hired
hypothetically he misses badly on a top
10 pick like Lias Andersson when Martin Necras, Nick Suzuki, and Robert Thomas all on board
2017 Red Line Draft Guide
Rankings notables Gorton passed on at 7
Nick Suzuki ranked 5
Jason Robertson ranked 9
Martin Necas ranked 14
Lias Andersson ranked 20
Gorton highest non lottery pick in 10 years this is a colossal failure and reach
will you demand he’s fired
isn’t Gorton the guy who gave Ryan Spooner a 2/ 8 M - 4 M annually contract
I will be curious how Bruins folks look at decisions gone bad by a GM they endorsed
hypothetically he misses badly on a top
10 pick like Lias Andersson when Martin Necras, Nick Suzuki, and Robert Thomas all on board
2017 Red Line Draft Guide
Rankings notables Gorton passed on at 7
Nick Suzuki ranked 5
Jason Robertson ranked 9
Martin Necas ranked 14
Lias Andersson ranked 20
Gorton highest non lottery pick in 10 years this is a colossal failure and reach
will you demand he’s fired
isn’t Gorton the guy who gave Ryan Spooner a 2/ 8 M - 4 M annually contract
I will be curious how Bruins folks look at decisions gone bad by a GM they endorsed
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Yet? I'm talking about today. Like right here right now. That's what he is, a 4th line player (and judging by his usage down the stretch and into the playoffs, even that is a stretch). Right now he's more a spare part agitator.
You do realize Trent Frederic is 23 years old now right? He's about to start his 6th season post-draft. He would have to clear waivers to be sent to Providence this October even on a two-way deal. He's not really a prospect anymore. Sure he could still have upside and evolve past a 4th line player or spare-part player. But at this point, I'm not counting on it. Hockey IQ is average, skating ability (mostly his first few strides ) needs work.
Learned how to body-check at the Shawn Thornton school of body-checking (not a quality institution I might add). I do like this player but I'm pretty realistic at this point about what he is today and what he will be going forward. His skill level and upside were never expected to be high even when he was drafted.
Obviously no one has a crystal ball. But business around the world make predictions and forecasts based on past events. You can look at Frederic and his trajectory and age, hen compare it to other similar players and make a fairly plausible estimate as to his ceiling now at the NHL level here 5 years since his draft. He's not 18 anymore. Too many keep acting like he is and due to his 1st round pedigree there is a lot more there than what we've seen so far. No doubt there are anomalies (I thought Marchand was almost done here going into 2010-11 before he finally broke in full-time). But for the most part it plays out as anticipated.
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He’s getting traded look for draft picks coming back
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Bruins can find a gazillion Trent Frederics on the open market.
He simply doesn't move the needle and IMO better options out there. Heck I like Bildh over Trent.
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Matt Beleskey, Zac Rinaldo, Jimmy Hayes. All Sweeney's answers to getting tougher to play against. I'm good with protecting Frederic over Sweeney getting another guy who is an NHL/AHL tweener or overpaying for a UFA who is suppose to be tough.
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