TSN: Treliving: "We've got young players for the 1st time in a long time that are pushing..."

[Leafs1991]

Yeah, hence my post.

Hyman being traded away 9 years ago has no influence on Florida being a good organization...now.

When they traded Hyman away they weren't exactly the gold standard for running a team.

 

[Leaf Fans]

Hyman being traded away 9 years ago has no influence on Florida being a good organization...now.

When they traded Hyman away they weren't exactly the gold standard for running a team.

They are the only team that has traded him.

 

[Leafs1991]

They are the only team that has traded him.

Your point? I'm well aware of his transaction history.

 

[Leaf Fans]

Your point? I'm well aware of his transaction history.

My point was and still is that a team doesn't have to be a poorly run trerrible organization to trade Hyman.

What is your point?

 

[Leafs1991]

My point was and still is that a team doesn't have to be a poorly run trerrible organization to trade Hyman.

What is your point?

That wasn't obvious in the slightest by your post.

 

[Leaf Fans]

That wasn't obvious in the slightest by your post.

Not to you anyway.

 

[Maple Leaf]

If I was the GM the leafs would be a dynasty for sure

 

[HamiltonNHL]

The difference I suppose was that TOR didn't have the cap allocation at the time they traded for Hyman.

Not having cap space is a sign of a bad organization.

 

[Ianturnedbull]

Hyman trade: June 19, 2015
Lamoriello hired as GM: July 23, 2015

So who made the trade? Nonis' ghost?

 

[Nineteen67]

They’re counting on McMann Knies and Cowan to carry the team in the playoffs when it gets tougher to play.

 

[Nineteen67]

Knies and McCann. Yep. Keepers. Holmberg? JAG. Robertson? Buh-Bye. Minton? Not gonna amount to much. Cowan? Unknown.

Minton will need some time but he could be a good 3rd line player. I don’t think they’ll be counting on him like they will some of the others.
I hope Cowan becomes a star, but I worry about him being groomed by Nylander and Marner.

 

[Leaf Fans]

So who made the trade? Nonis' ghost?

Dubas made the trade.

 

[Face Of Bear]

Not sure what Brad is getting at here. Knies/Holmberg/McMann aren't "pushing" to make the team - they're locks as it stands now. And the only one who's actually young is Knies.

 

[Orfieus]

Knies is what 21 years old ? He’s got so much development room ahead of him. He could be a 30 or 40 goal guy.

As long as he doesn't lose confidence playing on the top line. He really shouldn't be playing with AM

 

[Mess]

I think it's because they downplay his puck skills and offense so he comes across like a Matt Stajan.

I'm not sure its "they" downplaying but rater "tHEy" downplaying his own as Minten is a defense first player.
It a pretty good comparable overall, slightly different styles.

Matty Stajan made the NHL as a 19 year old and posted a pretty impressive first year with 14 goals and 27 points in 69 games. (With Stajan's junior #'s more impressive).

Minten didn't stick in his 19 year age year in the NHL and now is 20 years old but if he makes the team if produced Matty Stajan like #'s it would be a huge success.

 

[Mess]

"Play the Kids"

I would really like to see a "Kids Line" in Toronto this year to cheer for.

3rd line: Knies ---- Minten --- Cowen

 

[Leafs1991]

Not to you anyway.

Not sure why you're being passive-aggressive right now...

The way someone uses language is important. It is painfully obvious when someone reads your comment that they would not understand the point you were making.

 

[Anthrax442]

Grebyonkin will be the next big one.

 

[Hellcat]

...to get in our line-up".

Aug 14th TSN overdrive interview with Brad Treliving.

He mentioned some encouraging things about TOR's young players:

"Matthew Knies is coming off a couple of regular season games and a playoff series. (Now) he's got a year under his belt. Bobby McMann wasn't even talked about. He didn't start on the roster with our team. The Holmbergs (Pontus Holmberg). "

I like where he's going with this. I'm pulling for our young players. I actually like who he mentioned. I even think they could be likeable players by our fanbase (if they're not already), and possibly unsung heroes in the playoffs.

I found it significant as to who he didn't mention. One being Robertson then nothing of Cowen/Minton. Perhaps that was by design. Perhaps they were accidentally omitted.

Are we looking at Knies and McMann as our starting top 6 left wingers, and Holmberg ad our 4C? It wouldn't be a stretch IMHO.

What do you think? Is Knies capable of 50 pts?

Could McMann contribute with 15+ goals?

I'm rooting for Knies but his skating will hold him back if he does not work on it considerably. When McMann came up two years ago for spot duty , he looked , right away like a guy who belonged in the big's. I'm pretty high on him, I hope he had a pro offseason and tears it up. Knies for a joke should be a 15 to 20 goal guy, McMann should be a 20 to 25 goal guy. I'm letting Robertson rot on the vine unless someone blows me away with an offer. Holloway got an offer sheet... Robertson has not... that should make him think twice about a power move to try and force a trade, he needs to be on the ice building his brand. Not sitting at home watching games on TV.

What terrible organization trades a guy like Hyman ?

A very poorly run one.

or lets him walk for nothing at least Florida got something in return.

 

[conFABulator]

As long as he doesn't lose confidence playing on the top line. He really shouldn't be playing with AM

But why not? He is not an 18 year old, and this will.be his third year in the NHL (first was very abridged I know. He did get a taste of NHL and playoffs and then an off-season to prepare).

He clicks with Matty
He plays a style that suits Matty and a playmaker (Marner or Domi)
He brings another element of size to that line
...and he frees up someone to help carry another line.

I really like Knies Matthews Domi as the top line.

It means we can spread Marner, Nylander and Tavares across the next two. I think we might see more balance and depth from Berube in line-making than we saw from Keefe.

 

[Sypher04]

"Play the Kids"

I would really like to see a "Kids Line" in Toronto this year to cheer for.

3rd line: Knies ---- Minten --- Cowen

Say hypothetically both Minten and Cowan make this team out of camp, I think maybe ideally that you wouldn’t want to load them both on the same line with so little experience.

So it’s kind of an interesting debate. Spread the youth out with experienced and reliable players. Or put them all together but place them a bit further down the lineup.

This all said. I’ll be shocked if Knies doesn’t start with Matthews.

 

[Ianturnedbull]

Dubas made the trade.

I stand corrected. Kudos to him.

So hard to give him credit sometimes...

 

[ULF_55]

Not having cap space is a sign of a bad organization.

Such a joker

 

[ULF_55]

Grebyonkin will be the next big one.

I second the motion.

He has an outclause, but I hope he sticks around even if he's yo-yo'd

Good size, seems to have good wheels, and dropped the gloves to stick up for a teammate.

 

[darrylsittler27]

Grebyonkin will be the next big one.

As far as come out of nowhere, yeah. You cant say Knies, McCann and Holmberg are pushing for jobs because Knies is top 6, McCann proved he is a 3rd liner and Holmberg played all over. So, he must see one young guy or maybe two.