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MrThomas said:
Yeah true. Even now Sweden has actually ok offence but its still far from can, fin, usa, rus because you don’t have any offensive thread or power there. But with a good team spirit and solid 2 way game you can still beat those teams for sure.
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Sweden's top 12 forwards =315 points
Russia's top 12 forwards = 310 points
Finland's top 12 forwards = 285 points

I'm guessing you're Finnish, lol.
 
MrThomas said:
So it's based on points only :D You guys don't have any star offensive player. Maybe Peterson some day...
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Dude, your forward squad is getting outscored by 30 points, don't know if you're trolling or just delusional.
Pettersson already has more points than every Finnish forward except Rantanen, so in other words you're saying Finland doesn't have any star offensive player except him.
 
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MrThomas said:
So it's based on points only :D You guys don't have any star offensive player. Maybe Peterson some day...
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Well, your claim was than swedish offense is pretty ****. You can't compare TOP 3 and then say definately who is better. Swedish TOP 12 has vastly outscored finnish TOP 12. It's a fact. At best you can say, that Finland has more stars and is more top heavy.
 
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Garl said:
Well, your claim was than swedish offense is pretty ****. You can't compare TOP 3 and then say definately who is better. Swedish TOP 12 has vastly outscored finnish TOP 12. It's a fact. At best you can say, that Finland has more stars and is more top heavy.
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Russia is also more top heavy.
 
Sweden's offense isn't as top-heavy as Finland and Russia, so has better overall depth. And the defense is obviously way out of their league.

Still well below Canada though :)
 
And Im saying Rantanen has been better only in this season so far. Probably David might catch him at some point but we will never know.
 
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ElHefe said:
Stop arguing. Sweden has more depth, Finland has better top 6.
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I would go with Sweden and Finland pretty tied at top 6 also.

Sweden top 6:

Forsberg - Bäckström - Nylander
Pettersson - W. Karlsson - Rakell/Lindholm/Arvidsson/Zibanejad whoever...

Finland top 6:

Rantanen - Barkov - Laine
Granlund - Aho - Tereväinen

You can go with either of them but i do not think that Finlands top 6 is clearly better the swedish one.
 
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Pensionsraddare said:
I would go with Sweden and Finland pretty tied at top 6 also.

Sweden top 6:

Forsberg - Bäckström - Nylander
Pettersson - W. Karlsson - Rakell/Lindholm/Arvidsson/Zibanejad whoever...

Finland top 6:

Rantanen - Barkov - Laine
Granlund - Aho - Tereväinen

You can go with either of them but i do not think that Finlands top 6 is clearly better the swedish one.
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I think the Finns Top 6 here are better. And don t forget they catch up on D-Men(Ristolainen,Heiskanen,Jokiharju etc). Very good development!
 
Ducks76 said:
I think the Finns Top 6 here are better. And don t forget they catch up on D-Men(Ristolainen,Heiskanen,Jokiharju etc). Very good development!
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I agree that they have a better top 6, but in no way are they catching up on dmen, especially with that list. Only dman I see out of those being able to crack a Swedish best-on-best roster in 5 years is Heiskanen. Which you could say is catching up I guess.
 
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theslatcher said:
I agree that they have a better top 6, but in no way are they catching up on dmen, especially with that list. Only dman I see out of those being able to crack a Swedish best-on-best roster in 5 years is Heiskanen. Which you could say is catching up I guess.
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Heiskanen, Jokiharju, Ristolainen in five years.
 
Salmonsnake said:
Heiskanen, Jokiharju, Ristolainen in five years.
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That's a big no from me dawg. Neither Risto nor Joki will crack a best-on-best Team Sweden roster in 5 years. It's kind of ridiculous to imply otherwise right now. I mean there's a good chance in 5 years the Swedish d-core is even stronger than now... So no.

In 5 years Sweden d-core could be Dahlin, Hedman, Karlsson, Brännström, OEL, Lindholm, and that's not accounting for any other good prospects coming up. Risto and Joki isn't cracking that roster, heck, they might not even be able to crack the Swedish b-team. Especially Risto.
 
theslatcher said:
That's a big no from me dawg. Neither Risto nor Joki will crack a best-on-best Team Sweden roster in 5 years. It's kind of ridiculous to imply otherwise right now. I mean there's a good chance in 5 years the Swedish d-core is even stronger than now... So no.

In 5 years Sweden d-core could be Dahlin, Hedman, Karlsson, Brännström, OEL, Lindholm, and that's not accounting for any other good prospects coming up. Risto and Joki isn't cracking that roster, heck, they might not even be able to crack the Swedish b-team. Especially Risto.
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I doubt it. No one is at the level of Hedman, Karlsson and OEL besides Dahlin. They will still have the best defense though.
 
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