Well I mean not like he would be playing under any circumstance. He must have known he would be in and out of the lineup?
Player Discussion Travis Hamonic (D)
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He has to understand that he has to sacrifice himself for the good of the team, and that is by not playing
In French we say : « il brille par son absence »
Wish they had the courage to do the same with Kubalik, nothing personal with these guys, should have been moved to another team a while ago (I wouldn’t have brought them in in the first place)
I think they're still hoping to extract some value out of trading Kubalik, maybe get a 5th rounder if they retain a bit? But the moment the deadline is passed, if he's still around, expect him to be waived and sent down. But I maintain he could be useful to a team with a plethora of playmakers who could set him up for his quality shot. Wonder how he'd do, as an experiment, if he played with Stutzle, but right now I wouldn't touch that line with Joseph and Giroux of course.
But with Hamonic's NMC, they're stuck with him no matter what. He provides depth as a 7th D. As we've seen this year, and pretty much every year of this team's history (and NHL's history), injuries will happen and he'll get to play again. We don't exactly have a better option as RD right now anyway. Guenette's try-out wasn't very convincing. He seemed a bit shy.
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They might have to buy him out. I expect to add a vet RD to play 2nd pair with Chabot and JBD and Guenette are not waiver exempt.
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Why on earth would you buy out 1 yr of a 1.1 mil,
Worst case he'll stick around as a 7/8 and provide depth. He can waive his NMC if he isn't satisfied with that role, but a buyout is pointless.
Brannstrom I expect is gone, if Guénette isn't good enough to be playing games I don't see us keeping him up anyways, he'll get waived whether he's waiver exempt or not so that he can continue to get mins and develop.
His NMC could haunt us next year. I don’t want to risk losing JBD or Guenette because Hamonic is taking a roster spot. If we carry 13 forwards and 8 D we may get stuck having to waive one of the D if there are a 3 short term injuries at the same time.
How will he not take a roster spot if we don’t buy him out ?
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And if Guenette and JBD are better in camp than Hamonic, which I’m sure they will be, you are fine losing one ?
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I don't think both will be long term pieces on this team, so yeah, I don't see losing the less of the two as a big deal, though I don't see Guenette getting claimed. He doesn't have the track record or the draft pedigree for me to be worried about it.
But in the event both are significantly better and we are actually worried about losing one, we run with 8 D, and rotate in JBD and Guenette, maybe look for a trade that makes sense.
Just leave some cap space to allow for callups and we're fine, worst case, use the emergency callup provisions like we did this year.
Hamonic is done. I don’t need to see him next year. Signing Guenette to an 800K deal and buying out Hamonic is cap neutral.
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The guy is a veteran who is past his prime. I feel for the guy because he has always been a player with heart and competitiveness.
I wanted us to get him instead of Josh Brown or Erik Gudbranson in 2020. There were many who told me he was done then (he wasn't) . Those same people told me Brown was going to be very good and then 2 years later lauded the Hamonic trade.
But he's done now. If there was an expansion team he'd be perfect for them. He should never have been given 2 years. But here we are. Just ride it out.
I wanted us to get him instead of Josh Brown or Erik Gudbranson in 2020. There were many who told me he was done then (he wasn't) . Those same people told me Brown was going to be very good and then 2 years later lauded the Hamonic trade.
But he's done now. If there was an expansion team he'd be perfect for them. He should never have been given 2 years. But here we are. Just ride it out.
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We should try to unload Hamonic some how... I don't see buying him out as a big deal and I don't like an 8 D solution in any event. My biggest problem is that he takes a spot and blocks another player coming in even as a waiver pickup. He encumbers flexibility and adds nothing.
His buyout in the off season would cost $366,667 / yr for 2 years. Easy decision to make if Cap Space is not an issue.
His buyout in the off season would cost $366,667 / yr for 2 years. Easy decision to make if Cap Space is not an issue.
I hope some random contender has a brain fart moment and offers us future considerations for him and Hamonic is down to go ring chasing.
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Do you think Hamonic gets less than 20 games this year? I don’t, our D core is injury-prone.
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If our callups are better options than him, sure he's going to play less than 20 games, we can play the callup ahead of him. If he is indeed bad enough that we should buy him out, the only games he should get into are where someone becomes unavailable last min, or we are so deep into the callups that he becomes the better option.
We did the same thing with Luke Richardson his last year here,
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Staois has already said he isn't buying anyone out this off season so Hamonic will be on the team next season. We also know he played with injuries last yr & only played 48 games. He is one yr removed from a 21 pt season & plays a rugged game which they need on D. I assume he will share that 3rd pairing RD spot with JBD until another RD in the system can usurp him. And we also know coaches have more faith in vets than young guys especially defencemen. With Chychrun as good as gone we just need to replace him with a much better RD, but that is easier said than done
