Management Travis Green [Head Coach]

[Hale The Villain]

Team offense is middle of the pack while team defence is top 10. Was closer to top 5 before this not so great stretch.

Our players legit have finished like garbage. Not sure how the coach can fix that

The advanced stats actually suggest the Sens are scoring more goals than expected given the chances we are generating.

We're ranked 28th in the league for expected goals scored, but we're 15th in actual goals scored, which indicates the Sens players (really just the top 6) are finishing quite well.

If the team is failing to create scoring chances, some of that will fall on the coach and his system.

 

[Burrowsaurus]

The advanced stats actually suggest the Sens are scoring more goals than expected given the chances we are generating.

We're ranked 28th in the league for expected goals scored, but we're 15th in actual goals scored, which indicates the Sens players (really just the top 6) are finishing quite well.

If the team is failing to create scoring chances, some of that will fall on the coach and his system.

I must have looked up the wrong stat I saw 17th for expected goals for.

Sorry. 15th expected goals for.
15th in goal score above epected but that’s at +0.4

Our goals saved above expected is currently second worst in the league. -11

Expected goal share is still top 10*.

 

[PlayOn]

The advanced stats actually suggest the Sens are scoring more goals than expected given the chances we are generating.

We're ranked 28th in the league for expected goals scored, but we're 15th in actual goals scored, which indicates the Sens players (really just the top 6) are finishing quite well.

If the team is failing to create scoring chances, some of that will fall on the coach and his system.

Staios mentioned something about how Green will slowly add layers as they go. And it got me thinking about Chabot saying how simple his system is compared to years past, and if basically the plan has been to dumb things down until they master it and then keep adding layers.

Who knows. The secondary scoring is inexplicably bad, it’s hard to grasp why.

 

[LiseL]

I don’t see that at all, I think Travis has been very critical of his team recently but I think there are a few realties that any NHL coach would struggle with:.

A well coached Travis Green team is relentless like what we have seen in small spurts with this team this year, hard to be relentless when your team is slow. Relentless is being on top of people, every line has a slow player and the lack of speed allows the opposition to remain comfortable in their system and you see opposition rookies, backups, depth players always play well versus Ottawa because it’s a comfortable game. Brady Tkachuk might beat someone’s face in and you’ll get hit a few times, but overall Ottawa isn’t stressing teams.

Leadership within the room is obviously an issue. To start they had versus L.A. After coming off the most embarrassing effort in maybe Sens history versus SJ is unforgivable. It’s piss poor, it’s embarrassing, it can’t be tolerated. Need to start changing letters around.

I don't know if it's all on speed. It was basically the same roster when they played so well against the NYR where they competed for 60 minutes. But if you're right that this team is too slow for the style he wants them to play, then he has to adjust the style to suit the team. More neutral zone coverage (a form of the trap), more covering the man instead of puck watching are 2 examples I can think of. Be more physical.

The only players I see playing the right way consistently are Stu and Jensen. Drake, Brady, Sandy, G and Chabot have moments but only in short spurts. Pinto has gone off the rails for some reason. Sandy is playing bad, can't all be blamed on Hamonic, he played with him as a rookie and was much better than he is now. I'd either put Jensen with Sandy as the shutdown pair or reunite Jensen with Chabot and take away some of Sandy's minutes.

 

[DrEasy]

Staios mentioned something about how Green will slowly add layers as they go. And it got me thinking about Chabot saying how simple his system is compared to years past, and if basically the plan has been to dumb things down until they master it and then keep adding layers.

Who knows. The secondary scoring is inexplicably bad, it’s hard to grasp why.

- Norris can't take a pass anymore, and can't one-time. Still has more goals than I'd expect him to, given the way he's playing.

- Giroux looks slow, can't keep up and is easily man-handled now.

- Amadio makes Condra look like Ovechkin.

- Pinto is probably playing hurt.

- Gregor just got back, is not expected to provide much offense anyway.

- Ostapchuk seems to be focusing on the defensive side, and is not exactly a play driver.

- Outside of Chabot and Jensen, nobody on defense is contributing offensively 5 on 5, they just want to get rid of the puck quickly.

 

[PlayOn]

- Norris can't take a pass anymore, and can't one-time. Still has more goals than I'd expect him to, given the way he's playing.

- Giroux looks slow, can't keep up and is easily man-handled now.

- Amadio makes Condra look like Ovechkin.

- Pinto is probably playing hurt.

- Gregor just got back, is not expected to provide much offense anyway.

- Ostapchuk seems to be focusing on the defensive side, and is not exactly a play driver.

- Outside of Chabot and Jensen, nobody on defense is contributing offensively 5 on 5, they just want to get rid of the puck quickly.

Some of these I can live with.

Greig, Pinto, Amadio, Perron, Chabot, Sanderson having 0-2 goals each to this point is wild though.

 

[DrEasy]

Some of these I can live with.

Greig, Pinto, Amadio, Perron, Chabot, Sanderson having 0-2 goals each to this point is wild though.

Yeah, hard to evaluate Perron so far. As for Greig, he's been disappointing, but I'm just not sure what should be expected of him.

Pinto and Sanderson playing to their full potential would make a big difference. As usual, half the story is players playing through injuries.

 

[DackellDuck]

What an absolute dud of a hiring. And they gave him 4 years. Unreal.

This team doesn’t play with skill. They don’t play with attention to detail. They don’t play good defense. They don’t look prepared. They don’t look well conditioned. And he just stands there with no expression and gives tired cliches in press conference.

And in fairness, this is exactly what Canucks fans told us to expect.

Following up DJ with this guy… woof.

 

[Gil Gunderson]

Durrr that’s a good team over there, durrr boys were tired.

 

[Wallet Inspector]

I still don't get why they didn't hire Dean Evason, especially when we gave him a couple of interviews. Look at how well Columbus is doing right now.

 

[Ice-Tray]

Looks like I was right.

Not really.

 

[Gil Gunderson]

I still don't get why they didn't hire Dean Evason, especially when we gave him a couple of interviews. Look at how well Columbus is doing right now.

Green probably mesmerized the brass with his BS about conditioning and fitness. They bought it because of poor starts.

 

[LevelingSolo]

I still don't get why they didn't hire Dean Evason, especially when we gave him a couple of interviews. Look at how well Columbus is doing right now.

He was interested in the job too as was Julien

It was definitely a money decision

 

[Wallet Inspector]

He was interested in the job too as was Julien

It was definitely a money decision

Maybe but Andlauer has shown a willingness to spend elsewhere, I dunno why he is cheaping out on our coach.

 

[Tuna99]

Gord Wilson in N.Y. on 9-11:

“Nice day here in N.Y. despite the smoke”

 

[DackellDuck]

Maybe but Andlauer has shown a willingness to spend elsewhere, I dunno why he is cheaping out on our coach.

Has he? He gave Staios two jobs, kept the old assistant GM, brought in Poulin after he was out of the league for 10 years and from what I can tell, hasn’t really added much to the scouting staff. We’re still one of the smallest, if not the smallest, front office in the league.

I hear the renos in the new family room are nice though, and I do appreciate the improved arena lighting.

 

[Tnuoc Alucard]

The site has is pretty much neck and neck with Buffalo, Clb and Phi for the final wild card spot.

Ottawa is out of the playoffs now, and most likely for the remainder of the season.




Columbus .543
Philadelphia .540
Buffalo .500

Otttawa .458

 

[BonHoonLayneCornell]

Has he? He gave Staios two jobs, kept the old assistant GM, brought in Poulin after he was out of the league for 10 years and from what I can tell, hasn’t really added much to the scouting staff. We’re still one of the smallest, if not the smallest, front office in the league.

I hear the renos in the new family room are nice though, and I do appreciate the improved arena lighting.

Cap ceiling spending is a big step up from the Melnyk years, and SS hasn't had to use picks in exchange for financial considerations.

 

[Tuna99]

Cap ceiling spending is a big step up from the Melnyk years, and SS hasn't had to use picks in exchange for financial considerations.

He did on the Joseph trade - 3rd round pick

 

[Micklebot]

He did on the Joseph trade - 3rd round pick

That was to free up cap space, not to cut back on cash spending.

 

[jbeck5]

Not really.

Travis has an account on the message board?!

You shouldn't talk about yourself. Not a good look.

 

[robsenz]

Green can GTFO. Only Ottawa would bring in a loser and magically expect him to win.

 

[inthewings]

I actually think the team has played much better than in the past several years:

- 8th in the league in CF%
- 16th in the league in xGF%
- 29th in the league in PDO

The team has -9 GSAA. They've been playing like a wild card contender and largely been tanked by their goaltending.

Ullmark alone has a -5 GSAA and we're paying him to be a top-10 guy which is at least +7. That's a 12-goal swing. If there's a single scapegoat for the team's record to date, it's not Travis Green - it's Linus Ullmark.

 

[Micklebot]

I actually think the team has played much better than in the past several years:

- 8th in the league in CF%
- 16th in the league in xGF%
- 29th in the league in PDO

The team has -9 GSAA. They've been playing like a wild card contender and largely been tanked by their goaltending.

Ullmark alone has a -5 GSAA and we're paying him to be a top-10 guy which is at least +7. That's a 12-goal swing. If there's a single scapegoat for the team's record to date, it's not Travis Green - it's Linus Ullmark.

Been much better the last two games, hopefully that continues

 

[BonHoonLayneCornell]

He did on the Joseph trade - 3rd round pick

As Mick pointed out, not the same. They were selling picks off in lieu of cash considerations quite obviously. Joseph was just the assumed payment to move the salary even dating back to Dorion wanting to move him and Garrioch carrying water for him.

If people wanna complain, I get it, the team isn't performing, but Andlauer's spending so far isn't it. He's already run a cap team 2 years in a row that Melnyk hadn't done since the earliest days of the cap coming in, he's committed to a new arena, done numerous upgrades on the existing facilities, including medical facilities overhaul, and he's hired some staff, whether they're the ones people wanted or not. Even Green's salary iirc was rumored to be a lot higher than people assumed, but could be wrong on that. SS is his guy, for better or worse and doesn't seem to have anything to do with $. The dollars being spent on the team are not the issue.