Management Travis Green [Head Coach]

Micklebot

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our 5v5 underlying numbers on NST are weird...

xGF%, 13th at 51.93%
CF%, 12th in the league at 51.12%
FF%, 7th at 54.84%
Shots for %, 4th at 55.22%

Looking good so far...

SCF%, 19th at 48.28%
HDCF%, 26th at 40%


To be fair, the SCF and HDCF are low event stats, so the sample is too small to be meaningful, though that's not to say xGF, CF, FF or shots samples are big enough to be particularly meaningful either...
 
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Tnuoc Alucard

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So you watched 55 games of a different coach that wasn't a long term option and that's how you know better options were available and willing to sign here mid season? You aren't even making coherent points anymore,

And I never claimed Green was a coaching mastermind, nice strawman, i've been pretty clear that we haven't seen enough of him to make that claim, or the inverse.

Here's a list of the midseason hires

Drew Bannister, 0 games as NHL coach, currently 2-1-0
John Hynes, 0 playoff wins. Currently 1-0-2.
Kris Knaublach, 0 games as NHL Head coach. Currently 0-3
Patrick Roy, after a strong first season, saw his his team to conservative playoff misses, then ditched them abruptly in Aug before the season started. Also, 0 playoff wins. Currently 0-1-1

Seems like their teams are struggling too.

The top coaches with options tend to wait till the offseason, or are going to sign with teams they think are going to win no

So you watched 55 games of a different coach that wasn't a long term option and that's how you know better options were available and willing to sign here mid season? You aren't even making coherent points anymore,

And I never claimed Green was a coaching mastermind, nice strawman, i've been pretty clear that we haven't seen enough of him to make that claim, or the inverse.

Here's a list of the midseason hires

Drew Bannister, 0 games as NHL coach, currently 2-1-0
John Hynes, 0 playoff wins. Currently 1-0-2.
Kris Knaublach, 0 games as NHL Head coach. Currently 0-3
Patrick Roy, after a strong first season, saw his his team to conservative playoff misses, then ditched them abruptly in Aug before the season started. Also, 0 playoff wins. Currently 0-1-1

Seems like their teams are struggling too.

The top coaches with options tend to wait till the offseason, or are going to sign with teams they think are going to win now.


So are you saying whomever they could have hired, last December, and had 55 games to work with, before this current season…. Would have been worse than waiting for Green in the off-season?
 

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So are you saying whomever they could have hired, last December, and had 55 games to work with, before this current season…. Would have been worse than waiting for Green in the off-season?
Is that what I said?

I think if you read carefully, you might see a theme in my posts, one that goes along the lines of it being to early to evaluate Green, and that guys with longer more proven track records generally aren't signing midseason with rebuilding teams.
 
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Tuna99

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Green basically has to turn the games of Tkachuk, Stutzle and Chabot for us to be a playoff team. From what I’ve seen this season , Safe to say Pinto, Sandy, Norris, Amadio, Greig, and the bottom line players are doing their jobs.

Last year Jacques Martin had to give the team a wake up call at the 62 game mark and the really questioned to players ability to learn and win and it worked, but it’s obvious that won’t be the final lesson.

Green has more work to do then I thought he did, Tkachuk and Chanot want to get there, their games aren’t there yet. Chabot looked good in a chaotic game because he’s used to playing in them. If Chabot and Tkachuk can learn to be impact hockey players in quiet games we will make the playoffs, if they can’t settle things down and become impact in quieter games we won’t become a consistent winning team. That to me is the next step, can they control a hockey game. They have in controlled play for parts of games against good competion, but can they put it together for a full game like Montreal did to us. If it has to be a show for them to be noticed it’ll be stop and go progress. Knife fight games like the L.A. game are fun but we need to learn how to put teams away proffesianlly and not WWE style.
 
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