News and Blog Report: Training camp & Preseason News & Notes, **New Pole Added**

[Jimmi McJenkins]

High praise for Philp and I agree with Perry

 

[McDrai]

https://x.com/i/web/status/1842974537631322243

Opening night lineup

Old and slow. Will see how it holds up throughout the year

 

[Oilhawks]

Old and slow. Will see how it holds up throughout the year

Good thing they have some youth to call up in Philp, Lavoie (if cleared), Savoie and (maybe) Hamblin.

 

[MessierII]

Hope Lavoie clears. He’ll be up at some point soon. Philip will be up before long too.

 

[bellagiobob]

No surprise with the roster. The older vets were always going to be given the opportunity to show they still have it in the regular season. Looking forward to having real hockey back Wednesday.

 

[jukon]

It's not like he lit up the preseason, but Lavoie needs NHL minutes. I hope he isn't claimed and we see him again soon.

 

[5 Mins 4 Ftg]

https://x.com/i/web/status/1842995521981436170

 

[Behind Enemy Lines]

Good decision on Philp. Get him meaningful and plentiful ice-time for 20 games to get fully up to speed for a later season recall quite likely never to see AHL competition again.

 

[Jimmi McJenkins]

Good decision on Philp. Get him meaningful and plentiful ice-time for 20 games to get fully up to speed for a later season recall quite likely never to see AHL competition again.

I suspect he'll be up sooner than that, but yes letting him start in the AHL is probably the smarter choice.

 

[Behind Enemy Lines]

I suspect he'll be up sooner than that, but yes letting him start in the AHL is probably the smarter choice.

We'll see I guess. Outside of injury there's no reason to rush to turn him into an 8-12 minute NHLer possibly also with press box time. He's missed a full year of hockey. Refine all elements of his game and approach with ice-time that includes meaningful situational play.

 

[Jimmi McJenkins]

We'll see I guess. Outside of injury there's no reason to rush to turn him into an 8-12 minute NHLer possibly also with press box time. He's missed a full year of hockey. Refine all elements of his game and approach with ice-time that includes meaningful situational play.

I guess, he projects as a 4C/bottom-6 player in general, so I doubt he needs "a bunch" of extra AHL time to develop. Plus, it's not like he barely stuck around, he was within a eyelash of making this team, he'll be back soon.

 

[Behind Enemy Lines]

I guess, he projects as a 4C/bottom-6 player in general, so I doubt he needs "a bunch" of extra AHL time to develop. Plus, it's not like he barely stuck around, he was within a eyelash of making this team, he'll be back soon.

Just getting him consistent quality games minutes will have value. Great camp to exceed expectation but losing a full season of player there's still elements that can be worked on and refined within game situations. And to explore the guy's ceiling. If he can show some productions and touch at the other end of the ice maybe there's another centre versatility that unlocks some future situations at 3C that enables Henrique to move to a shooter at wing.

I'd like them to explore the outer limits of the player. Think there's value in that. Appreciate your point that the recall could be a shorter timeline. We'll see.

 

[bellagiobob]

https://x.com/i/web/status/1843066053343281546

 

[McDNicks17]

https://x.com/i/web/status/1843066053343281546

The Savoie bonus stuff he's mentioning is only relevant if they're on LTIR and they won't be.

I highly doubt we see Philp back for Game 1. Carrying a 13th forward eats about $2.5M of accrued space for the deadline.

They're far better off getting him minutes in Bako and then calling him up later in the season when it won't affect the cap.

 

[Mr Positive]

The Savoie bonus stuff he's mentioning is only relevant if they're on LTIR and they won't be.

I highly doubt we see Philp back for Game 1. Carrying a 13th forward eats about $2.5M of accrued space for the deadline.

They're far better off getting him minutes in Bako and then calling him up later in the season when it won't affect the cap.

I agree. Imo the plan is that Philp is waiting in Bako for one of the overaged forwards to get dinged up or to look bad. Or heck, even a question mark like Podkolzin could get on the coach's bad side pretty quick.

 

[MessierII]

The Savoie bonus stuff he's mentioning is only relevant if they're on LTIR and they won't be.

I highly doubt we see Philp back for Game 1. Carrying a 13th forward eats about $2.5M of accrued space for the deadline.

They're far better off getting him minutes in Bako and then calling him up later in the season when it won't affect the cap.

Either way when you’re at 12 forwards someone’s coming up within a couple weeks most likely regardless.

 

[Soundwave]

I actually like that the team is fully commited to an actual f***ing salary cap strategy (in this case they want to acrue space for the deadline) and not swaying from it just to throw a player like Philp a few minutes every 3rd game.

It just felt like in the past under the past two GMs they just did whatever the f*** with the roster with the mentality of "we'll just figure out the cap, roster management stuff however". No real strategy for anything.

 

[Took a pill in Sbisa]

https://x.com/i/web/status/1842995521981436170

Surprised to see Engvall, was a regular 3LW in the Isles lineup last year. I saw a few projections in the off-season of him starting on the 2LW

 

[McFlyingV]

Old and slow. Will see how it holds up throughout the year

Much better puck movement on the back end which in itself gets the puck up the ice a lot faster than fast skaters.

 

[brentashton]

Old and slow. Will see how it holds up throughout the year

 

[K1984]

Old and slow. Will see how it holds up throughout the year

I don’t know where this “slow” narrative started, but it’s frankly bullshit.

McDavid, Hyman, Leon, Arvidsson, Janmark, Brown, Podkolzin are all + skaters. There are two of them on each of the three top lines. Then RNH and Skinner are more middle of the road in terms of speed, but not slow.

Team is slow because…. Henrique (who is dead average) and 2/3rds of the 4th line? Slow because we lost Holloway? Makes zero sense.

 

[FlameChampion]

I don’t know where this “slow” narrative started, but it’s frankly bullshit.

McDavid, Hyman, Leon, Arvidsson, Janmark, Brown, Podkolzin are all + skaters. There are two of them on each of the three top lines. Then RNH and Skinner are more middle of the road in terms of speed, but not slow.

Team is slow because…. Henrique (who is dead average) and 2/3rds of the 4th line? Slow because we lost Holloway? Makes zero sense.

I don’t think it helps that we looked really slow in the preseason.

I think it was more because we couldn’t execute, couldn’t make passes or enough plays.

Could of been effort problem with the vets.

Will see where the team is at after 10 games or so

 

[5 Mins 4 Ftg]

https://x.com/i/web/status/1843306820850635201

 

[Jimmi McJenkins]

https://x.com/i/web/status/1843306820850635201

I still wonder if Philp comes back up before Wednesday. With all the different things happening.

 

[5 Mins 4 Ftg]

I still wonder if Philp comes back up before Wednesday. With all the different things happening.

I honestly dont think so. KK doesnt seem to play games in the media and he did say (paraphrasing) that he wants him to play tons of minutes versus the few he would get here and that he should be back if he continues his upward trajectory.