Buffalo Bills Training Camp - July 16 (rookies), July 23 (veterans)

[HOOats]

30? This city, and the surrounding neighborhoods have been getting their nuts kicked in for the better part of a half-century. I'm not going to get into the specifics, because this isn't the thread for it. But God damn... the only thing keeping the good people of Western New York from going full Jonestown is the hope of a Championship.

Well, 30 is the better part of a half-century...

I hear you though, don't mean to minimize further back trauma. I just think we're still operating within the specific generational/emotional orbit of 90-94 and will be for another decade (or until we win one).

 

[Taro Tsujimoto]

https://x.com/i/web/status/1821007104226030039

Oh, how the mighty have fallen.

 

[ValJamesDuex]

30? This city, and the surrounding neighborhoods have been getting their nuts kicked in for the better part of a half-century. I'm not going to get into the specifics, because this isn't the thread for it. But God damn... the only thing keeping the good people of Western New York from going full Jonestown is the hope of a Championship.

you mean the 30 new micro Breweries in WNY have not turned things around ?

 

[Jim Bob]

https://x.com/i/web/status/1821007104226030039

Oh, how the mighty have fallen.

The Patriots are now the Sabres.

 

[Jim Bob]

Josh Allen ends on high note, Christian Benford vs. Kaiir Elam, and more from Bills camp

Plus, rookie defensive end Javon Solomon is showing flashes.

www.nytimes.com

Day 10 injury report​

S Mike Edwards (hamstring) — Week-to-week, has not practiced since July 28.

WR Chase Claypool (toe) — Day-to-day, has not practiced since July 28.

RB Ty Johnson (hamstring) — Day-to-day, has not practiced since July 29.

OL Travis Clayton (shoulder) — Day-to-day, has not practiced since July 29.

S Cole Bishop (shoulder) — Week-to-week, has not practiced since July 30.

LB Edefuan Ulofoshio (ribs) — Has not practiced since Aug. 4.

LB Nicholas Morrow (core/groin) — Day-to-day, has not practiced since Aug. 4.

WR Justin Shorter (knee) — Day-to-day, did not practice Monday.

WR Andy Isabella (undisclosed) — Suffered an apparent leg injury on Aug. 5 and rode a practice cart the long stretch back to the locker room.

OL La’El Collins (knee) — Returned to practice Monday after missing two straight sessions.

 

[Jim Bob]

 

[Jim Bob]

https://x.com/i/web/status/1821187625811665110

https://x.com/i/web/status/1821188799289778537

 

[Jim Bob]

https://x.com/i/web/status/1821143839932825853

 

[ValJamesDuex]

Bills general manager Brandon Beane joins the show - The Jeremy & Joe Show

7:30am Hour 2 - Brandon Beane joins the show to talk with the guys about his thoughts on his team as training camp continues on.

omny.fm

 

[ValJamesDuex]

Rumor: Aiyuk deal in place now to the Steelers

 

[12ozPapa]

What are the predictions for Keon Coleman? Obviously seems like a super great kid but I’m so new to the sport, I don’t pretend to know anything outside of the guys I’ve seen play the last few years.

 

[ValJamesDuex]

What are the predictions for Keon Coleman? Obviously seems like a super great kid but I’m so new to the sport, I don’t pretend to know anything outside of the guys I’ve seen play the last few years.

I will say 60/800/5, just below Zay Flowers last season.

 

[Selanne00008]

I'm fine with Aiyuk in Pit. Help steal a game or two from Cinci/Baltimore.

 

[12ozPapa]

I will say 60/800/5, just below Zay Flowers last season.

I’ll take it!

I’m curious what Samuel does. Feel like he’ll be great or struggle, no in-between

 

[Jim Bob]

https://x.com/i/web/status/1821214019199627430

 

[Selanne00008]

NOT liking ball security or Bass kicking issues. I have a bad feeling Bass is trending down the past 12 months and we might need to actual re-think the kicking position. REALLY hope I am wrong.

 

[TheAngryHank]

30? This city, and the surrounding neighborhoods have been getting their nuts kicked in for the better part of a half-century. I'm not going to get into the specifics, because this isn't the thread for it. But God damn... the only thing keeping the good people of Western New York from going full Jonestown is the hope of a Championship.

Those 4 SB runs with the regular seasons and that core were excellent and just fun to be part of.

 

[Dubi Doo]

https://x.com/i/web/status/1821214019199627430

Good to read regarding Milano. The parts about Cook and Bass are concerning, though. Kickers can be the difference between winning a SB and losing. I don't doubt we lose to KC if Bass hits that FG, but you really never know- the odds plummeted when he missed it, though.

And Cook seems to have ball security issues that make me nervous about him. Someone may be able to debunk that myth. He seems to drop a lot of balls, too, but his catch rate is pretty high, so the data doesn't always backup what I'm seeing. That being said, I believe he just drops passes at the worst times, and a bunch of them seem to be catchable balls.

 

[HOOats]

What are the predictions for Keon Coleman? Obviously seems like a super great kid but I’m so new to the sport, I don’t pretend to know anything outside of the guys I’ve seen play the last few years.

I'll say 45-550-7.

Imo he's going to have some growing pains at different points this season, as expected for a rookie of his pedigree. But the touchdowns are going to flow.

 

[12ozPapa]

I’m stoked to hopefully see Shakir with a bigger role, he’s a joy to watch.

 

[Jim Bob]

Good to read regarding Milano. The parts about Cook and Bass are concerning, though. Kickers can be the difference between winning a SB and losing. I don't doubt we lose to KC if Bass hits that FG, but you really never know- the odds plummeted when he missed it, though.

And Cook seems to have ball security issues that make me nervous about him. Someone may be able to debunk that myth. He seems to drop a lot of balls, too, but his catch rate is pretty high, so the data doesn't always backup what I'm seeing. That being said, I believe he just drops passes at the worst times, and a bunch of them seem to be catchable balls.

Cook's issue with drops last year wasn't the volume of them, but the fact that he had multiple memorable drops of easy TDs in close games.

He had 4 fumbles last season.

There are also reports of multiple Ray Davis fumbles in practice. Ball security is something they need to work on across the board, it would appear.

 

[Zman5778]

NOT liking ball security or Bass kicking issues. I have a bad feeling Bass is trending down the past 12 months and we might need to actual re-think the kicking position. REALLY hope I am wrong.

To be fair, this is the first negative report I've seen on Bass from any reporter. If this was the first day that he kicked (highly unlikely), then yes it's a problem.

But camp is almost over and this is the first bad day I've hard that Bass has had.

 

[buffa dud]

Good to read regarding Milano. The parts about Cook and Bass are concerning, though. Kickers can be the difference between winning a SB and losing. I don't doubt we lose to KC if Bass hits that FG, but you really never know- the odds plummeted when he missed it, though.

And Cook seems to have ball security issues that make me nervous about him. Someone may be able to debunk that myth. He seems to drop a lot of balls, too, but his catch rate is pretty high, so the data doesn't always backup what I'm seeing. That being said, I believe he just drops passes at the worst times, and a bunch of them seem to be catchable balls.

The ones that stand out to everyone are the ones he drops at critical times, or when they are glaringly obvious because we're a bunch of cynical bastards who like nothing more than to complain. He's dropped 9 of 89 targets during the regular season; during the same stretch, he's had 5 touchdowns and secured 21 first-downs - virtually none of which are talked about.

When you stack him up against Singletary, the two are virtually identical in that regard, and I can't ever remember our fanbase fixating on (Singletary's) drops to this extent.

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When you look around the league, he isn't that much worse than Alvin Kamara, who has enjoyed a lot of success in the league.

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Or Saquon Barkley.

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You could also argue he's been better than his brother Dalvin, when it comes to pulling in the ball.

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I'm going to chalk this dropping nonsense up to the fact that he has an atypical build, he is not an All-Pro talent, and the media who just wants to reinforce the rampant confirmation bias because it's easier to say what everyone agrees with rather than do actual research.

 

[12ozPapa]

I’m a newbie but I love Cook. He sure had some terrible drops, but he’ll improve I think in that. I think we should be stoked about our RBs. TEs are looking good. WRs are a bit of “committee “ type thing, but COULD be awesome. I personally just worry about the defense. I also worry about Allen getting injured, even as non-injury prone he is. The guy plays a wild style.

EDIT: like I said, newbie here, so I could be WAY wrong on all of the above - PLEASE correct me if I’m wrong, I’d love to be more educated

 

[VaporTrail]

NOT liking ball security or Bass kicking issues. I have a bad feeling Bass is trending down the past 12 months and we might need to actual re-think the kicking position. REALLY hope I am wrong.

I have zero confidence in Bass