GDT: Training Camp discussion - Rifai and Murray on waivers -- Steeves clears

[Roo]

Hasn't looked like a guy who is going to be a #1 this year. Solarz might just get the net game 1 and run with it.

I suspect Woll will get Saturday and game #1

 

[Fogelhund]

Greybokin had a good game them looked kinda crappy the next game, out of position a lot.
Robertson , who is not a prospect, looks dangerous in both ends, had a great strip and goal last game
Cowan looks like a guy that was told no matter what he does, he is headed back to the OHL, he's been just a guy out there, he's not playing with the intensity that I thought he would play with.
Lorentz not a prospect but looks like a quality, aggressive 4th liner.
Pare looks like a AHLer who is in over his head in the NHL.
Rifai while not overly impressive has not looked out of place, Topi and Webber the same.
Patches looks like he has his legs back.
McMann I thought would be noticeable in the pre season, he's a ghost.
Knies looks slow and clunky, when he skates hard, he violently waves his stick around like he is trying to flag down a passing ship.
I thought a LW would step up, outside of Robertson no one has overly impressed me, Patches had a good first game, we might have the weakest LW in the league, for sure bottom 10 LW.

Topi hasn't played any exhibition games yet. Tonight will be his first... hard to make that statement if he hasn't played.

 

[OVO16]

Haven't heard much about McMann this pre-season. Wonder why he's being picked on to play with the AHL'ers

He was projected to be a Berube sort of player

 

[Roo]

What do Habs fans have to say now?

Probably that Laine is still on a lot of painkillers lol

It was obvious from the footage. Hope he makes it back this season.

Haven't heard much about McMann this pre-season. Wonder why he's being picked on to play with the AHL'ers

He was projected to be a Berube sort of player

There is a minimum # of vets required. The only lineup that matters is opening night. McMann should be there vs MTL on Oct. 9th.

 

[ULF_55]

Haven't heard much about McMann this pre-season. Wonder why he's being picked on to play with the AHL'ers

He was projected to be a Berube sort of player

He missed end of season and playoffs due to MCL sprain.

 

[Roo]

delete

 

[SprDaVE]

Haven't heard much about McMann this pre-season. Wonder why he's being picked on to play with the AHL'ers

He was projected to be a Berube sort of player

He hasn't really stood out in pre-season but he's been paired with a random assortments of top 9 players in pre-season.

 

[Doc300c]

He's had all kinds of chances to win a gig. He got the playoff start too and look awful, it's on him.

Do you decide if a player will be great off of 11 games?

How about when they rip is confidence away from him by showing him they don't trust him - do you think that helps him to play better?

Remeber he's like 23 years old - temper your expectations and remember how much of an idiot you were at 23 - I know I was a disaster at that age. - not trying to offend you.

We expect perfection from growing, developing players. It just doesn't happen every time like 34, 16 and 88 - There will be pain. We have 80+ million dollars to spend - a 3 million dollar player shouldn't be what makes or breaks us.

 

[hamzarocks]

https://x.com/i/web/status/1841863614430355625

and the yearly "player X (marner/nylander) playing center/defence" one week distraction is over.

I saw Pietr... and thought that was Pietrangelo for a second lol

No idea who this Pietreniro fellow is.

 

[DarkKnight]

Do you decide if a player will be great off of 11 games?

How about when they rip is confidence away from him by showing him they don't trust him - do you think that helps him to play better?

Remeber he's like 23 years old - temper your expectations and remember how much of an idiot you were at 23 - I know I was a disaster at that age. - not trying to offend you.

We expect perfection from growing, developing players. It just doesn't happen every time like

34, 16 and 88 - There will be pain. We have 80+ million dollars to spend - a 3 million dollar player shouldn't be what makes or breaks us.

He's 25 first of all. Second, he looked better two years ago, I haven't seen any development in his game. He was terrifying this playoffs, the lack of composure with the puck was alarming. He's good depth, if he finds another level great, I don't see it.

 

[ULF_55]

He's 25 first of all. Second, he looked better two years ago, I haven't seen any development in his game. He was terrifying this playoffs, the lack of composure with the puck was alarming. He's good depth, if he finds another level great, I don't see it.

And he wasn't 100% healthy, as per Keefe.
But he was still better than Brodie who received 2*3.75 from Chicago. I know it is Chicago, but they could have signed any other number of bottom defenders.

 

[notbias]

Haven't heard much about McMann this pre-season. Wonder why he's being picked on to play with the AHL'ers

He was projected to be a Berube sort of player

He's looked good in the games he's played.

I don't think there is a shot that he isn't on the opening night roster.

 

[conFABulator]

It’s funny that we are debating which teams in the Matthews era have been the best when by the results they have all been crap. First round losses abound. This fact is beyond debate…..it’s real. We can throw all the excuses we want but they have been playoff failures

That's not "crap". It's a disappointment, yes. It is under performing, yes. It's not crap. The Leafs have been one of the five or six best teams in the league the last several years and most of the the 25 or so behind us haven't won a cup either...so unless your definition of crap includes 25 teams then I think your choice of words is inaccurate.

 

[ULF_55]

Any reports from camp today?

 

[Maple Leaf]

Any of these defenseman actually good

 

[13pacheco31]

Any of these defenseman actually good

If you have to ask, the answers probably no

 

[sxvnert]

Rielly Tanev
OEL McCabe
Benoit Hakanpää
Rifai Mattinen

Trade/Demote the rest (Timmins, Liljegren).

 

[Racer88]

That's not "crap". It's a disappointment, yes. It is under performing, yes. It's not crap. The Leafs have been one of the five or six best teams in the league the last several years and most of the the 25 or so behind us haven't won a cup either...so unless your definition of crap includes 25 teams then I think your choice of words is inaccurate.

Zero growth or improvement in the last 8 years in the playoffs if not crap is certainly major failure.
For the supposed talent and all the resources this franchise has to offer it is absolutely shameful that this is the best they can do but if just making the playoffs is the benchmark then they have been good

 

[conFABulator]

Or they keep working to breakthrough in the toughest division in hockey.

In the past seven seasons the Atlantic Division has:

• Lifted three Stanley Cups (Florida ‘24, Tampa ‘21, Tampa ‘20)

• Represented the Eastern Conference in six out of seven Cup Finals, including each of the past six

• Accounted for four of the top 11 NHL teams in playoff games played.

Maybe they are growing and improving like a team does, it's just harder to have to play Tampa, Boston or Florida than the LA Kings.

The Florida Panthers went 25 years without winning a playoff series. They missed the playoffs a few years before winning a cup. They did change their GM and their coach. We did that too.

 

[jaric1862]

I have a feeling the Pacioretty-Kampf-Robertson line we saw today is our third line on opening night.

 

[RoadWarrior]

https://x.com/i/web/status/1841863614430355625

and the yearly "player X (marner/nylander) playing center/defence" one week distraction is over.

The bottom six is very suspect in that practice group. Dewar and Reaves on the third line? Really? I like them as people but they’re not 3rd line NHL players.

I have a feeling the Pacioretty-Kampf-Robertson line we saw today is our third line on opening night.

Kampf isn’t a third line C.

 

[Coffees]

What are the chances Vancouver and Toronto meet in the finals?

 

[1specter]

What are the chances Vancouver and Toronto meet in the finals?

None

 

[Maple Leaf]

Or they keep working to breakthrough in the toughest division in hockey.

In the past seven seasons the Atlantic Division has:

• Lifted three Stanley Cups (Florida ‘24, Tampa ‘21, Tampa ‘20)

• Represented the Eastern Conference in six out of seven Cup Finals, including each of the past six

• Accounted for four of the top 11 NHL teams in playoff games played.

Maybe they are growing and improving like a team does, it's just harder to have to play Tampa, Boston or Florida than the LA Kings.

The Florida Panthers went 25 years without winning a playoff series. They missed the playoffs a few years before winning a cup. They did change their GM and their coach. We did that too.

I'm glad you are enjoying this success
I will start watching in round 2*

 

[Coffees]

None

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