GDT: Training Camp discussion - Camp now open

[Rare Jewel]

Do you actually see Pacioretty being signed?

It's basically confirmed, around 1M.

 

[IPS]

Also Dermott is with the Oilers now

Actually completely forgot about that.

And apparently he's having trouble cracking their D core in training camp.

 

[Dekes For Days]

What are we expecting from Holl this year James?

Not sure who James is, but I don't know, and I don't care. Isn't really relevant to what we got from him in 2020-2021.

So, injuries to Matthews and Nylander didn't play a part on worst underlying playoff performances?

I'm sure they did. But many of the same issues still existed when they were there.

 

[therealkoho]

I do. Dependable vet who can score goals.

....and stop trying to get the thread back on topic!

Yeah maybe possibly.

1 goal every ten games last year and one year older.....

Absolutely.

Two seeing eye goals v Mont in an exy, skated behind the play all night, gets an absolutely. I don't know man it just doesn't seem to be enough to cost Robertson and/or Cowan

I think it's inevitable. Still not sure how I feel about it. Not much risk though.

If it were me it's still a no

It's basically confirmed, around 1M.

I've heard this but.....

 

[Rare Jewel]

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It's almost as if the doctors are trying wash their hands of this one.

I've heard this but.....

They have to clear space first...

So Liljegren on waivers, probably (which I don't agree with).

 

[Suntouchable13]

If Dewar is healthy hopefully they send Kampf packing

 

[Fogelhund]

Yeah maybe possibly.

1 goal every ten games last year and one year older.....

Two seeing eye goals v Mont in an exy, skated behind the play all night, gets an absolutely. I don't know man it just doesn't seem to be enough to cost Robertson and/or Cowan

If it were me it's still a no

I've heard this but.....

Robertson will be in the lineup, Cowan will be in the OHL. Cowan isn't ready, independent of Patches.

I'm not big on him, but the guy is skating with the main group, and currently practicing with the PP group. He probably replaces a guy like Reaves, or maybe even Jarnkrok at a lower price.

 

[Jimmy Firecracker]

https://x.com/i/web/status/1841542473165787340

 

[Dekes For Days]

I don't know man it just doesn't seem to be enough to cost Robertson and/or Cowan

Cowan still needs development time and is likely headed back down. Having Pacioretty doesn't mean not having Robertson. Both can co-exist.

 

[LeafSteel]

It's almost as if the doctors are trying wash their hands of this one.


They have to clear space first...

So Liljegren on waivers, probably.

To be honest, I’m floored by the bolded.

How did you come to the decision to waive one of our RHD who can potentially slot into our 4RHD slot?

25 years old and looking at our RHD, we have 34 year old Tanev, Timmins, and Hakanpaa, with Niemala as our next up.

This list inspires so much confidence you are letting our 25 year old RHD go for nothing?

Horrendous asset management.

We don’t even know if hakanpaa can play.

How do you decide on Liljegren to be waived?

 

[Fogelhund]

To be honest, I’m floored by the bolded.

How did you come to the decision to waive one of our RHD who can potentially slot into our 4RHD slot?

25 years old and looking at our RHD, we have 34 year old Tanev, Timmins, and Hakanpaa, with Niemala as our next up.

This list inspires so much confidence you are letting our 25 year old RHD go for nothing?

Horrendous asset management.

We don’t even know if hakanpaa can play.

How do you decide on Liljegren to be waived?

Some people are fixated on Lilly... it's ridiculous. See the Rifai vs. Lilly thread too... I mean sure... a 7/8 LD is replacing a RD in our lineup.

 

[LeafSteel]

Some people are fixated on Lilly... it's ridiculous. See the Rifai vs. Lilly thread too... I mean sure... a 7/8 LD is replacing a RD in our lineup.

I don’t know what to say.

On other teams, Liljegren would be a valued asset that has a role to play.

For us, with our pathetic RHD depth, he’s the automatic to be discarded for nothing, with no asset or replacement coming in the opposite direction.

Just give him away, and use the savings to sign PTO forwards….

 

[Fogelhund]

I don’t know what to say.

On other teams, Liljegren would be a valued asset that has a role to play.

For us, with our pathetic RHD depth, he’s the automatic to be discarded for nothing, with no asset or replacement coming in the opposite direction.

Just give him away, and use the savings to sign PTO forwards….

Objectively, moving Sandin was the right move for our club... but he has been a 20 minute plus D man for Washington since being moved. IMO, Lilly is a better D, and would end up becoming a 20 minute + D man elsewhere if moved, and we'd all be talking about letting him go in a negative way in a few years.

 

[Antropovsky]

He's actually literally avoided those points everytime he's been quizzed up on the results of last year's playoffs vs the years under Dubas.

James would have given his left nut to have those kinds of excuses for the playoff failures under Dubas.

But if someone else presents information about Marner with actual break downs of data reviewed, @Dekes For Days says it's cherry picked, and too simplified or something of that nature.

Meanwhile, his info is just factual statements by himself with no evidence to back up his opinion necessary.

@Dekes For Days Remember this convo the next time you nitpick others breakdowns of Marners game and call the data arbitrary and cherry picked.

 

[Fogelhund]

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[All Mod Cons]

Do you actually see Pacioretty being signed?

100%

 

[LeafSteel]

Objectively, moving Sandin was the right move for our club... but he has been a 20 minute plus D man for Washington since being moved. IMO, Lilly is a better D, and would end up becoming a 20 minute + D man elsewhere if moved, and we'd all be talking about letting him go in a negative way in a few years.

Add to it we got a 1st for Sandin that turned into Cowan vs waiving Liljegren…..

Can’t possibly see how that would even look like, other than just brutal.