GDT: Training Camp discussion - Camp now open

[jaric1862]

Kampf just like Jarnkrok are everyday NHL players, most teams in this league would be more than happy to have them, especially because both signed to very affordable contracts. Their contracts only pose a problem here in Toront, because of 4 guys who are being somewhat overpaid.

Just because the dough head former GM compounded his own idiotic mistake by spending a first round pick on a player he truly overpaid, instead of eating 2.5m of his remaining deal doesn't mean it's always going to be a means to an end.

It's not that they aren't capable NHL players, it's the price for cap relief. All teams around the league are aware of Toronto's cap issues ... they're not going to help us out of a bind for free.

The Mathieu Joseph trade from this summer is a good example. Similar abilities/cap hit/term to Kampf/Jarnkrok.

 

[Antropovsky]

I don't see any opinion presented as fact. Not sure what you're talking about. I believe the additions made us worse because we had a worse record after, worse defensive results after, the additions didn't play very well as individuals, and we lost and had one of our worst underlying playoff performances in part due to glaring transition struggles that seemed to pop up when we overloaded with defensemen with poor transition ability.

There are many variables that change outcomes of seasons. But let's look at the GA in recent playoffs:

Leafs allowed 16 goals in 7 games vs Boston in 2024. With injury to their selke center.

Leafs allowed 21 goals in 7 games vs Tampa in 2023

Leafs allowed 14 goals in 5 games vs Florida in 2023

Leafs allowed 23 goals in 7 games vs Tampa in 2022.

Seems the Leafs allowed their lowest goal totals in a while this past playoffs with their defensive core.

 

[Dekes For Days]

There are many variables that change outcomes of seasons. But let's look at the GA in recent playoffs:
Leafs allowed 16 goals in 7 games vs Boston in 2024. With injury to their selke center.
Leafs allowed 21 goals in 7 games vs Tampa in 2023
Leafs allowed 14 goals in 5 games vs Florida in 2023
Leafs allowed 23 goals in 7 games vs Tampa in 2022.
Seems the Leafs allowed their lowest goal totals in a while this past playoffs with their defensive core.

Not only is this not really related to my post, but you still seem to be mixing up goaltending and defense.

 

[freshwind]

Are you old enough to remember Hal Gill?

lol, totally unrelated but for some reason this made me think of mike from buffalo calling andy frost "good evening mr frost, i am calling to discuss one mr aki berg"

 

[Racer88]

Not only is this not really related to my post, but you still seem to be mixing up goaltending and defense.

To be fair you are confusing a good team with one that gets bounce first round in the playoffs every year for 3/4 of a decade.

 

[Reijo]

lol, totally unrelated but for some reason this made me think of mike from buffalo calling andy frost "good evening mr frost, i am calling to discuss one mr aki berg"

Like, thwse guys was such G's. Aki Berg was once one of the promising finnish d-talents. They aint make suckas like that no more.

 

[conFABulator]

It's not that they aren't capable NHL players, it's the price for cap relief. All teams around the league are aware of Toronto's cap issues ... they're not going to help us out of a bind for free.

The Mathieu Joseph trade from this summer is a good example. Similar abilities/cap hit/term to Kampf/Jarnkrok.

Toronto doesn't really have cap issues. They can ice a very good opening night roster by signing two PTOs, demoting a few to the Marlies, putting a couple on IR, and possibly risking the loss of Timmins to waivers while replacing him with Rifai.

Some breathing room would be nice for sure and I am in favour of trading some or all of Kampf, Jarnkrok and Liljegren because we can replace them in house at lower cost. I just don't think we are under pressure to do it quickly.

Up front we can ice Matthews, Marner, Nylander, Tavares, Domi, Knies, Pacioretty, McMann, Robertson, Holmberg, Lorentz, Reaves, and Cowan. We won't be missing Kampf and Jarnkrok. Dewar will come back and we have Grebenkin, Minten and a couple others as call ups.

Our D still runs Reilly, Tanev, McCabe, OEL, Benoit, Rifai, and eventually Hakanpaa. Most importantly moving these guys out would give us about $6M in space. Get a D man? Parayko? Anderson?