Trades & Free Agency Thread: Off-season Edition

[ULF_55]

It is pretty wild he's done really nothing. Barely even a prospect swap trade or anything. Usually when a GM is changed after the team struggling in one way or another, the core is changed or a big part of the team is changed.... that hasn't really happened.

Perhaps he thinks the team is good enough, with the right leadership and coaching?

He has remade the defense, with best he could with the budget he had. Am I thrilled with the changes? No. Is it better, I believe so. Is it a self inflicted timebomb ... probably.

 

[Fogelhund]

It is pretty wild he's done really nothing. Barely even a prospect swap trade or anything. Usually when a GM is changed after the team struggling in one way or another, the core is changed or a big part of the team is changed.... that hasn't really happened.

Team lineup last playoff series under Dubas.

Bunting Matthews Marner
O'Reilly Tavares Nylander
Kerfoot Kampf Jarnkrok
Acciari Lafferty ZAR
Knies

Rielly Schenn
McCabe Holl
Giordano Liljegren
Brodie

Woll
Samsonov

11 of these players are gone, 11 remain. So he's changed half of the lineup.

 

[SprDaVE]

Team lineup last playoff series under Dubas.

Bunting Matthews Marner
O'Reilly Tavares Nylander
Kerfoot Kampf Jarnkrok
Acciari Lafferty ZAR
Knies

Rielly Schenn
McCabe Holl
Giordano Liljegren
Brodie

Woll
Samsonov

11 of these players are gone, 11 remain. So he's changed half of the lineup.

All free agents or prospects drafted from a different boss. Nothing via trade unless you count Tanev as a trade. The main core is still very much here.

 

[Fogelhund]

All free agents or prospects drafted from a different boss. Nothing via trade unless you count Tanev as a trade. The main core is still very much here.

Still, changing half the roster in 16 months, isn't doing nothing, as had been claimed.

 

[ULF_55]

Still, changing half the roster in 16 months, isn't doing nothing, as had been claimed.

Yes, half the roster has been changed, but how many of those changes were Treliving's actions?

I'm giving him time, but, just asking, who did he actively trade away?

Again, his hands will be untied 2025-2026 season.

 

[SprDaVE]

Still, changing half the roster in 16 months, isn't doing nothing, as had been claimed.

The bare minimum, sure. Filling roster spots with free agents or re-signings.

 

[Skullz]

This has been floated here before, but I would love to take a run at acquiring Rasmus Andersson. This files so many holes for us, and really solidifies all of our pairings. He has two more years at 4.5.

Trade Liljegren + Niemela + 2025 2nd for Andersson. (Maybe not enough?)

Rielly - Tanev

OEL - McCabe

Benoit - Andersson

 

[Namikaze Minato]

This has been floated here before, but I would love to take a run at acquiring Rasmus Andersson. This files so many holes for us, and really solidifies all of our pairings. He has two more years at 4.5.

Trade Liljegren + Niemela + 2025 2nd for Andersson. (Maybe not enough?)

Rielly - Tanev

OEL - McCabe

Benoit - Andersson

Definitely not enough and he is NOT a third pairing defender.

 

[Skullz]

Definitely not enough and he is NOT a third pairing defender.

Yeah probably. Liljegren probably has less value than I'm thinking.

Pairing is arbitrary.

 

[WTFMAN99]

Does anyone have meaningless pre-season stats for Liljegren?

 

[Fogelhund]

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[WTFMAN99]

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I'd been working off 92M so an extra 500k is always welcomed.

 

[Gallagbi]

So cup-winning centres are on on pace for 30 points? Kampf being in the low 20s seems to be exactly what I said it was… below average, but not by a lot.

Karlsson played like 18 minutes a night. That’s almost first line ice time. As I explained already, they had centres that plays a lot of time on wing with each other. The points they scored weren’t all scored in the capacity of 3c. Roy playing 15 minutes per night, all in the capacity of a 3c is a lot closer to a fair comparison.

As I said before, people seem to think 3Cs should be scoring 50+ points when the fact is most 2Cs don’t even do that…

30 ESP is a big jump from 20. Karlsson played 13:29 ES in their cup win. We had 3 C's with more than that in our first round that year, 4 if you want to include Accciari. One benefit of a good 3C is you can roll them up in the lineup and leverage as a 2nd C for draws. Though it doesn't look like VGK did that as much as we've seen with the Leafs and Matthews seeing time with Tavares, Domi spotting in as 3C and wing, ROR jumping up, etc. Karlsson spent most of his time with Smith and Roy/Amadio/Kessel in that cup win. Very little ES time with Eichel and Stephenson. Eichel and Stephenson were together but it wasn't in withers top 2 line setups so they primarily ran C on their own line.

I'd love a 50 pt 3C, but my expectations are more in line with some other 3rd liners I mentioned earlier like Engvall, Kerfoot and Mik. In the 35-50 pt realm. The good news is we don't really use Kampf as a 3C because he's shown he can't handle it. Unfortunately he's paid in-between a 4C and a solid 3C, so it leaves him in an awkward spot with our roster construction