Trades & Free Agency Thread: Off-season Edition

[Punch Drunk Loov]

Can you imagine if athletes didn't want to play for:
The Yankees
LA Lakers
LA Dodgers
Patriots
Manchester united

Because the media is too critical?

 

[rumman]

+ Lilly? I'd do it.

Throw in OEL as a sweetener………

 

[PromisedLand]

Bob says Leafs and Oilers in on Skinner

how the F does oilers even have cap space to do this? Are they moving cap out? they have 3M AAV in dead cap because of Neal and Campbell buyouts too this year and have about 7M to fill in reaminder of the roster spots including re-signging their RFAs Holloway and Broberg (who were important in their playoff run)

 

[francis246]

That comment is made up by Friedman. Grasping at straws just to fill a point. If the media is such a big issue, why does Marner love playing in TO so much? Same for Matthews and Nylander, both could have bolted.

Does Friedman think Boston is a better place to play if you suck? How about Philadelphia? Not at all. If this Leafs core sucked this hard for so many years in those cities, they would be done.

Why do you guys think you know more than insiders? Friedman isn’t the first person to say this today. Players talk, it’s time for HF Boards armchair insiders and GM’s to understand that it’s 100% a factor.

Yes some players would love to be in Toronto. But the reality is most don’t. They don’t want to get shit on daily. And let’s be honest in Philly and in Boston the hockey teams are like the third/fourth most popular teams. US Media give a shit about hockey. ESPN didnt even cover it until this year.

Boston

Patriots
Red Sox
Celtics
Bruins

Philly

Eagles
Phillies
76’ers
Flyers

 

[Gabriel426]

One thing that gone unnoticed is that Tanev, OEL, Domi, Lilly and Stolarz all signed for multi year deals.
Barring any trades, MM and JT are two coming off the payroll next year but we already seen the Woll deal which is about 3mil more than his current deal. Knies and McCabe will both need a new contract and I think they will get a 3mil increase each. That’s 9mil more than the current cap.

 

[Rare Jewel]

A proven playoff viewer in Skinner would be an interesting addition to this group.

 

[keonsbitterness]

No announcement on a Tavares extension?

They shouldn't even consider that until after next season.

A proven playoff viewer in Skinner would be an interesting addition to this group.

He makes amazing popcorn!

 

[SprDaVE]

A proven playoff viewer in Skinner would be an interesting addition to this group.

He's been one of the better 5 on 5 goal scorers in the last few years. We'd be crazy not to be in on that with our current needs.

 

[PromisedLand]

Regardless, I won't lose sleep over Zadorov signing in Boston.

Also came out that that Leafs had no interest in paying him 5/per.

that is interesting.... so basically both boston and toronto value zadorov differently....

would be interesting to see who had it right soon enough......

 

[Gabriel426]

Why do you guys think you know more than insiders? Friedman isn’t the first person to say this today. Players talk, it’s time for HF Boards armchair insiders and GM’s to understand that it’s 100% a factor.

Yes some players would love to be in Toronto. But the reality is most don’t. They don’t want to get shit on daily. And let’s be honest in Philly and in Boston the hockey teams are like the third/fourth most popular teams. US Media give a shit about hockey. ESPN didnt even cover it until this year.

Boston

Patriots
Red Sox
Celtics
Bruins

Philly

Eagles
Phillies
76’ers
Flyers

Or the simple fact that Bruins is a better team than the Leafs and actually won more than ONE round in the past 8 years

 

[rumman]

Shanahan being the common denominator !!!

So much for Pelley saying there will be changes !!!

I can’t believe Berube is happy with Lilly and OEL on the D, add that to Rielly’s defensive ineptitude and things are looking ugggggggggly………….

 

[Daisy Jane]

If the players want no part of a market that cares, they can stay the hell out.

i keep saying this.

if i were the League office. these are the bullets i'd use at the next CBA negotiations. you people want to have 50% of the revenue but you don't want to live/work in the places that systematically helps drum up most of it? you want to be able to hide wherever and be a footnote in the sports section? okay. then the split we get reflects that.

Like Friedmann saying people saw how the media treated Marner? HOW did the Media treat Marner? when he was on a god-tearing clip - the sun shone out of his behind. when he super struggled it was reported on. it's not like the media stripped him down, threw tomatoes and garbage at him and cried shame! shame! shame!

 

[phillipmike]

Nils Lundqvist back to Dallas. 1 year $1.25M

Perry back to Edmonton. $1.4M

 

[francis246]

I honestly think people underestimate how much of an issue the weather likely is for a lot of players.

Not just weather but cost of living and quality of life. Traffic in Toronto sucks. As a Maple Leaf you either have to live Downtown or in Mississauga, you can’t live in the east end. You can’t live that far and commute in for practice, you’d be late everyday

 

[Gabriel426]

that is interesting.... so basically both boston and toronto value zadorov differently....

would be interesting to see who had it right soon enough......

Z didn’t want to sign here, it is really that simple.
Just like Marchessault didn’t want to sign with the Leafs.

 

[SprDaVE]

Nils Lundqvist back to Dallas. 1 year $1.25M

Perry back to Edmonton. $1.4M

Dang I was hoping Lundkvist to be a target but c'est la vie.

 

[Daisy Jane]

Can you imagine if athletes didn't want to play for:
The Yankees
LA Lakers
LA Dodgers
Patriots
Manchester united

Because the media is too critical?

yeah but they win for the most part. that's not really a good example. my example is more of notice how players still want to play for the Knicks, Cowboys, and anywhere in Pennsylvania and their media is savage.

 

[PromisedLand]

Z didn’t want to sign here, it is really that simple.
Just like Marchessault didn’t want to sign with the Leafs.

no i don't think so. Z had expressed interest in signging with the leafs. Leafs didn't value him at 5M AAV while Boston did. Its as simple as that IMO

 

[francis246]

yeah but they win for the most part. that's not really a good example. my example is more of notice how players still want to play for the Knicks, Cowboys, and anywhere in Pennsylvania and their media is savage.

Their media is the same Daisy but those players are critiqued for their play. Their salary is never apart of the conversation. Not to mention those

 

[SprDaVE]

Leafs need to poke around. Robertson and Timmins for Colton Ross or something like that?

In theory they have a lot more cap space without Nichushkin though.

 

[Gabriel426]

I don’t buy this players don’t want to be in Toronto bc of medias.. and how the Marner stuff is driving them away…. Didn’t Marner just said he is being treated like a God in Toronto?

 

[Daisy Jane]

Shanahan being the common denominator !!!

So much for Pelley saying there will be changes !!!

so what exactly - and realistically - did you want the Leafs to do?
beg the players who didn't want toplay in Canada to pretty please change their minds?
to just throw Marner out the nearest exit and say thanks for the memories and everything is peaches?

it's July 1st. When Shanahan was first hired it took him a year to legit burn it all to the ground. whatever you want Pelley to do it's not going to happen that quickly.

 

[PromisedLand]

I can’t believe Berube is happy with Lilly and OEL on the D, add that to Rielly’s defensive ineptitude and things are looking ugggggggggly………….

I remember there was a rumour when Blues traded for Krug, Berube wasn't happy. This would be interesting as season progresses

 

[Magic Man]

Trade Robertson. Sign Skinner for 1M for 1 year.

 

[Al14]

I can’t believe Berube is happy with Lilly and OEL on the D, add that to Rielly’s defensive ineptitude and things are looking ugggggggggly………….

As a retired hockey coach, I'd be quitting this team before even being behind the bench once !!!

f*** Pelley, Shanaahan, and Treliving !!! Was Dubas really the problem ???