Trades & Free Agency Thread: Off-season Edition

[SprDaVE]

It's pretty crazy Treliving has been the GM for over a year now and still hasn't made a significant hockey trade in the off-season. The only player he has traded away is Max Ellis so far.

 

[darrylsittler27]

The

Not impossible but that seems unlikely without any other moves.

I'm thinking it's going to be

1. Tanev,
2. Either a top 4 D or good 3C. Maybe Henrique or Dillon tier rather then Montour or Pesce tier.
3. Stolarz/Cheap goalie

When I look at the cap, that extra 500 k- 1 m overpayment to Liljegren really hurts a lot.

Lily signing shocked me.

 

[PromisedLand]

Let's hope the rumors aren't true that they're looking to extend Marner.

just saw this on twitter and am already fuming even if it just rumour LMAO

 

[Stephen]

Lindholm McAvoy
Zadorov Carlo
Lohrei Peeke

Six built in excuses for the Leafs to never exit the first round. Not even like they're that good but the adversity represented there are just perfect reasons for the Leafs big water pistols to no show the rest of the 2020s.

 

[francis246]

Barely over 1m left after Dewar. UFA window is closed unless they trade Kampf or Järnkrok which is probably not happening.

You do know that we can go over the cap by 10% in the offseason. They can sign a few players and move guys or bury guys in the minors to be cap compliant. I’d expect a few cheap signings tomorrow. Still also the possibility of a Marner trade

 

[Isaac Nootin]

but I guess it takes two to tangle and clearly Toronto isn’t a very appealing destination anymore.

What's this based on?

Who do you feel the Leafs missed out in because they simply didn't want to come to Toronto?

 

[Gaberd2608]

Wasn't happy with the Tanev/OEL deals earlier in the day, but as the day goes along it looks a little bit better............ A little better. Some awful deals being handed out.

Still not a fan of the term or dollar value. Thought the extra years would bring it down.

Like both the Domi/Stolarz

Im warming to most of the deals. The only piece that makes me nervous is the 3c spot unless they believe Minten or someone internally can handle that.

 

[francis246]

What's this based on?

Who do you feel the Leafs missed out in because they simply didn't want to come to Toronto?

I’ve been listening to Kipper and Borne all day to and Kipper said that players talk to one another and the scrutiny players face in Toronto and Vancouver has turned a lot of players off from those markets. He said a lot of players just rather not play there. So it’s definitely a thing even though HF Boards people claim it’s not.

 

[darrylsittler27]

Exac

Rielly - Tanev
McCabe - Liljegren
Ekman-Larsson - Benoit

Woll - Stolarz


Is it an upgrade over last year? I’d say it’s a slight improvement but nothing crazy. A little disappointed overall as I was hoping for more impactful changes but I guess it takes two to tangle and clearly Toronto isn’t a very appealing destination anymore.

Exactly. Toronto is not a preferred destination. Tre panicked when he realized it. They really thought Lily would get $3 million in arbitration?

 

[Rare Jewel]

The

Lily signing shocked me.

I know people are down on him, but that is the best D signing so far for me.

 

[Rude Dog]

Let's hope the rumors aren't true that they're looking to extend Marner.

Be careful what you ask for. I have said it a thousand times. It's Tavares's contract that is killing them. This team's forward depth looks pretty bad if you use the majority of the Marner money on the back end at this point (Petro or Theo). They have very little to trade and there isn't much scoring help left in UFA.

 

[keonsbitterness]

just saw this on twitter and am already fuming even if it just rumour LMAO

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RIP hfboards server!

 

[Commander Clueless]

So what do we have, like ~$2.5M for another forward? Unless we end up signing Robertson rather than trading him.

 

[darrylsittler27]

To

I’ve been listening to Kipper and Borne all day to and Kipper said that players talk to one another and the scrutiny players face in Toronto and Vancouver has turned a lot of players off from those markets. He said a lot of players just rather not play there. So it’s definitely a thing even though HF Boards people claim it’s not.

Toronto is a gong show. If you aren't a huge Leaf fan why would you go there?

 

[Leaffan1991]

Bostons D is wayyy stronger than ours. The size on that blueline
Is insane.. we got... OEL and Lilly two of the softest Dmen
Sucks we have to overpay for everyone because of the cost of living and taxes

 

[MSZ]

just saw this on twitter and am already fuming even if it just rumour LMAO

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That would make the members of the Mitchy Club very happy.

 

[Evilhomer]

This is such BS...how come Boston and New York don't figure in? They have high taxes like Toronto, and I think New York is even higher.

Because it has always been inaccurate. Tax lawyers can structure to defer taxes in a manner that results in getting players in "normal" tax jurisdictions (i.e., Canada, California, New York, Mass, Colorado, etc.) to basically the same place on an after-tax basis as players in low-tax jurisdictions. It's why you never hear about this being an issue in any other North American professional sport.

 

[darrylsittler27]

Zadorov

What's this based on?

Who do you feel the Leafs missed out in because they simply didn't want to come to Toronto?

..

 

[Isaac Nootin]

I’ve been listening to Kipper and Borne all day to and Kipper said that players talk to one another and the scrutiny players face in Toronto and Vancouver has turned a lot of players off from those markets. He said a lot of players just rather not play there. So it’s definitely a thing even though HF Boards people claim it’s not.

Kypreos is an absolute goof, you can disregard almost anything he says.

Do players not face scrutiny in Montreal, New York, Boston etc. etc.

Toronto is still a sought after destination.

 

[SprDaVE]

Im warming to most of the deals. The only piece that makes me nervous is the 3c spot unless they believe Minten or someone internally can handle that.

Domi did well to spot in that role. I'd expect Minten to probably make a play. Holmberg is vanilla a bit but he could take a bigger step next season. Quillan as a darkhorse.

With that said, I agree. The Leafs probably need to make a trade or find a way to add a center and a top 9 LW to replace Bertuzzi and a departing Robertson.

 

[sxvnert]

Guentzel + McDonagh + Moser + Geekie > Stamkos + Sergachev

 

[Isaac Nootin]

Zadorov

..

Zadorov said publicly that he didn't want to come to Toronto?

 

[PromisedLand]

Six built in excuses for the Leafs to never exit the first round. Not even like they're that good but the adversity represented there are just perfect reasons for the Leafs big water pistols to no show the rest of the 2020s.

ohhh watch out....

@RomanianLeafs is about to tell you to not watch the Leafs next season because you don't bendover to the MLSE and Leafs Management

 

[TimeZone]

So it appears our offense that couldn't muster up 2 goals in a game come playoff time has now actually somehow gotten worse.

They're running it back with Gio, Brodie replaced with Tanev and OEL, Samsonov swapped airh Stol & Bertuzzi swapped with some bargain basket garbage.

Same loser core for the 8th year in a row....this is genuinely a f***ing nightmare, Brad is a gutless coward.

 

[francis246]

To

Toronto is a gong show. If you aren't a huge Leaf fan why would you go there?

Couldn’t agree more. He referenced Pesce and O’Reilly said, both guys just did not want to be in the spotlight. That’s not who they are and they had no interest in being in a spot like Toronto