Trades & Free Agency Thread: Off-season Edition

[Torontonian]

Ya, no thanks to the 33 year old Kadri who has another 5 years left @ 7m. (Who will be 34 when the season starts).

 

[notbias]

Sadly there a lot of fun trade opportunities with the Flames, but lots of smoke suggests they don't want to trade with Tre.

Mirtle said he and their ownership split on bad terms apparently

I think this is a good thing... not much to want from Calgary anymore.

Leafs should easily do that. They need more darts in the top 90

But knowing them they will do it last second for a messily 4th

If we are moving back from a late first, it is a lot harder to predict who is available then, so I'm personally happier with them doing it the day of the draft when some of the smoke clears rather than before.

I think they often try to move back if it makes sense and sometimes it doesn't work, but at least in this scenario if the player they want is available, they can make the pick.

 

[robertmac43]

I would be so happy if the Leafs could somehow get Kadri back with retention. Im very biased though. No idea how they would be able to do that realistically either.

I would cry tears of joy.

 

[notbias]

For anyone mentioning Kadri... what is the thought process?

It seems people want change on the team, but the change they want is to bring back more former players who failed?

 

[SprDaVE]

Marino RHD 3x4.4M on the block. Would be a very good target.

 

[Brobust]

If we bring in Tanev, bring back Boosh... and Domi and Bert are resigned... the second pairing guy is likely Liljegren, just by virtue of a available cap space. That's if Marner and nobody else is traded.

$18.8 mil in cap space.

$5 (at least) for Tanev.
$3.5-4 mil for each of Bert and Domi
$2.5 mil for Boosh and Liljegren
That's $17-18 mil right there... and still need to sign Robertson and a Goalie.

Without moving bodies.... there isn't much room for another guy on the second pair out of Free Agency.

Literally our changes from last year would be... adding Tanev and that's it. Ouch.

I don't think the Tanev contract is $5M if it's for 5 years. I also don't think Lyubushkin will get what he got on the last contract. Or at least that's not what the leafs are willing to pay.

Tanev - $4.2-4.5M
Bert/Domi - $8.5M
Lybushkin\replacement - $1.8-2M

Moving on from Liljegren and Robertson, waiving Timmins and sending Cade Webber down, that leaves roughly $5M or $6M if they're willing to waive Reaves. I think this is the main reason nothing's been done with Bert/Domi. If they can get that number a bit higher, they can maybe target a Sean Walker for the 2nd pairing and a backup. Let's hope they're atleast willing to move on from one of Kampf or Jarnkrok, which would open things up a bit more.

 

[robertmac43]

Tanev at anything over 5 and you got to walk away...

 

[KMNRB]

The problem is that Matthews and Nylander have NMCs. He wouldn't accept anything different.

Yeah, I realize that. Just trying to think outside of the box. Perhaps it'd be different with a new boss here.

 

[MarMarSab3]

Marino RHD 3x4.4M on the block. Would be a very good target.

Yes please

 

[Amadeus]

Nikita Zadorov please !

 

[The Management]

 

[Burnie97]

Guentzal's price is 8x8 from Carolina...

It is so incredibly easy to dislike the Toronto core players

It is frustrating. They set a precedent a while back and it's f***ed them.

Yes no one could predict covid yet many teams regardless of taxes etc continue to find ways to sign guys for less or make gutsy trades to reset the roster.


On another note:

I think we're getting Zad and Tanev. Said it earlier. Just a gut feeling.

I just hope they aren't massive over pays and the term isn't crazy.

 

[SprDaVE]

Tanev at anything over 5 and you got to walk away...

The GM missed his mark at the deadline. Almost a sure bet to be completely overpaying to get him here. It's the same smoke as Reaves last year.

 

[Tony Romo]

10th overall + Marino + a forward from NJD for Marner + Kampf, GET IT DONE

 

[Mckay]

For anyone mentioning Kadri... what is the thought process?

It seems people want change on the team, but the change they want is to bring back more former players who failed?

You are 100% correct.

Also, anyone in doubt should go back and read the thread after he got suspended the second time. 90% of the boards wanted him fired into the sun. Now it feels like 90% want him back.

 

[Skullz]

… what’s with this pre draft trading up and down thing? This is new

I don’t mind it personally

I don't really get it though, because at this point you have no idea how the board will shake out.

 

[Kiwi]

Marino RHD 3x4.4M on the block. Would be a very good target.

He'd be ideal, nice cap hit and he isn't old so we should get good value out of all 3 years remaining

 

[Mckay]

I don't really get it though, because at this point you have no idea how the board will shake out.

Agreed. The player they want could potentially fall to where they were and now it would be just a waste of extra picks. DURING the draft making these trades I totally get.

 

[Skullz]

Marino RHD 3x4.4M on the block. Would be a very good target.

Yes he would be. I hope that we are all over this. You are not getting that level of a player for that caphit in free agency. Fits perfectly.

The GM missed his mark at the deadline. Almost a sure bet to be completely overpaying to get him here. It's the same smoke as Reaves last year.

I hate how this sounds prescient. We need to be more ambitious and creative. I like Tanev, but giving him term is asinine.

 

[Kiwi]

The GM missed his mark at the deadline. Almost a sure bet to be completely overpaying to get him here. It's the same smoke as Reaves last year.

That's what happens when you fixate on one guy and have to have him, you end up losing any sense of caution or price control

 

[ToneDog]

Tanev at anything over 5 and you got to walk away...

Demelo got 5 and Tanev is better. Leafs going to have to go big if they want to outbid Dallas which plays in a tax free state.

Guentzal's price is 8x8 from Carolina...

It is so incredibly easy to dislike the Toronto core players

Matty $5.25m more and 4 less years. That's your f***ing leader folks.

 

[Rare Jewel]

https://x.com/i/web/status/1806759350524109208

Hey Tre, get in on this.

 

[robertmac43]

Demelo got 5 and Tanev is better. Leafs going to have to go big if they want to outbid Dallas which plays in a tax free state.

Demelo is 4 years younger.

 

[Tony Romo]

Would Robertson + Lily be anywhere close for Marino?

 

[Kiwi]

https://x.com/i/web/status/1806759350524109208

Hey Tre, get in on this.

What do NJ need and do we have it?