Trades & Free Agency Thread: 2024-2025 - Trade Deadline Approaches

[Rare Jewel]

Unless Marner comes to you and offers a hometown discount you can't refuse, no one should be re-signed until after the playoffs.

 

[thewave]

Unless Marner comes to you and offers a hometown discount you can't refuse, no one should be re-signed until after the playoffs.

That's not going to happen. They are about to sign JT for around 7m. If that's the case it's just going to be fanfare higher ticket costs and more merch. You know Marner is coming back.

 

[Rare Jewel]

That's not going to happen. They are about to sign JT for around 7m. If that's the case it's just going to be fanfare higher ticket costs and more merch. You know Marner is coming back.

Possibly not.

It does strike me as odd that Treliving would spend that money before even having a crack at his boy Bennett, for example.

 

[Americanadian]

Possibly not.

It does strike me as odd that Treliving would spend that money before even having a crack at his boy Bennett, for example.

I’m going to guess that Bennett isn’t his boy and he thinks he has no chance. Why else would he make this move?

 

[thusk]

I heard Bennett lives in T.O in the off season. No brainer IMO if he's willing to come here for same money Tavares wants. This core is stale as it is.


The article also questions it because JT is not going anywhere else. They need to get the AAV down somehow so they can upgrade the bottom 6. Clearly being top heavy with these 5 does not work.

Let give 7M to a 50-55 pts player ( who's also producing at a 55 pts rate in carrer in playoff unstead of a pts/game player whos producing at a rate of 61 pts in playoff... and thinking that woukd change something

That's a lot of money for an old man. Should be in the 5 range after that overpay he came off of. It's only a 1 way street though. We overpay Willy because he was underpaid. We double up on overpaying JT because why? This teams weird

If leafs don't resign JT, with salary cap raising... he will have better offer than Stamkos last year. Add 7,5M to every NHL twam, that's make a lot of money to spend and bidding war in free agency.

 

[Americanadian]

Let give 7M to a 50-55 pts player ( who's also producing at a 55 pts rate in carrer in playoff unstead of a pts/game player whos producing at a rate of 61 pts in playoff... and thinking that woukd change something

Bennett has a better point per game rate in the playoffs the last 2 seasons than Tavares does as a Leaf and he’s played more playoff games over that span. Why use career points per game in the playoffs when Tavares’ best playoff run was before he joined the Leafs?

 

[ToneDog]

Let give 7M to a 50-55 pts player ( who's also producing at a 55 pts rate in carrer in playoff unstead of a pts/game player whos producing at a rate of 61 pts in playoff... and thinking that woukd change something



If leafs don't resign JT, with salary cap raising... he will have better offer than Stamkos last year. Add 7,5M to every NHL twam, that's make a lot of money to spend and bidding war in free agency.

That 50-55 C has a SC, produces better in the playoffs and is not going to back down when he gets punched in the face. Tavares has not gotten past the 2nd round and will be 34 in September. Talk about running the same core back an 8th time and thinking it will work. They call that insanity.

 

[Americanadian]

If leafs don't resign JT, with salary cap raising... he will have better offer than Stamkos last year. Add 7,5M to every NHL twam, that's make a lot of money to spend and bidding war in free agency.

If Tavares wants to sign somewhere else let him. Tampa isn’t missing Stamkos and I guarantee Nashville wouldn’t sign that contract today.

 

[Rare Jewel]

I’m going to guess that Bennett isn’t his boy and he thinks he has no chance. Why else would he make this move?

Well, I heard someone, I believe it was Dreger earlier this season say that supposedly he still really likes him despite trading him to Florida, so...

But yeah, perhaps he doesn't think he'll get there, but still, I wouldn't be re-signing JT or anyone until May.

 

[ToneDog]

If Tavares wants to sign somewhere else let him. Tampa isn’t missing Stamkos and I guarantee Nashville wouldn’t sign that contract today.

I'd want to see what he does in the playoffs before I make him any offer. Odds are he puts up less than .75 PPG and you can get him cheaper. If you give him $7m and he cannot fill the #2C spot, you will be f***ed IMO.

 

[thewave]

If Tavares wants to sign somewhere else let him. Tampa isn’t missing Stamkos and I guarantee Nashville wouldn’t sign that contract today.

At the end of the day if they run the core back and lose early in the playoffs again, the serious fans don't need to take the team seriously anymore.

 

[freshwind]

At the end of the day if they run the core back and lose early in the playoffs again, the serious fans don't need to take the team seriously anymore.

this - 100%

 

[Zero1]

I hate this front office. There’s no way you pay JT $7 mill AAV.

Try something f***ing different.

 

[Americanadian]

At the end of the day if they run the core back and lose early in the playoffs again, the serious fans don't need to take the team seriously anymore.

The serious fans are already there. Some as early as Columbus.

 

[Zero1]

According to David Pagnotta of The Fourth Period, the Toronto Maple Leafs and veteran forward John Tavares are close on a new extension, with some finer details all that needs to be done. He writes in a recent post, “There has been chatter of a three-year extension in place that requires some finetuning, but nobody will confirm. His AAV will drop, likely in the $7 million range.”

$7m might be fair but I'd rather do some shopping on July 1st to see if I can get a younger, speedier, better player for a bit more. Leafs might be concerned they lack C depth and may want to lock in JT sooner than later.

Yeah I’m done with the Leafs if they bring back JT and Marner on stupid contracts after another disappointing playoffs.

I’m going insane watching the same core fail again and again and again… in the playoffs.

 

[nuck]

Bennett has a better point per game rate in the playoffs the last 2 seasons than Tavares does as a Leaf and he’s played more playoff games over that span. Why use career points per game in the playoffs when Tavares’ best playoff run was before he joined the Leafs?

Doesn't that ignore the fact that Bennett was the 4th and 6th best scorer on his own team in those two strong years? Other players have done the heavy offensive lifting and there are no heavy lifters on the Leafs because they get their ticket punched early every year. I doubt their results are reversed if they were on the other team unless Bennett can also play goal. Not to say I want to run it back but Bennett in Toronto costs more than JT and there is for sure no guarantee he will be the player he was in Florida for the the playoffs the last couple of years. He is a 50pt center during the regular season and that might be who he really is.

 

[Americanadian]

Doesn't that ignore the fact that Bennett was the 4th and 6th best scorer on his own team in those two strong years? Other players have done the heavy offensive lifting and there are no heavy lifters on the Leafs because they get their ticket punched early every year. I doubt their results are reversed if they were on the other team unless Bennett can also play goal. Not to say I want to run it back but Bennett in Toronto costs more than JT and there is for sure no guarantee he will be the player he was in Florida for the the playoffs the last couple of years. He is a 50pt center during the regular season and that might be who he really is.

Coincidentally Tavares was 4th and 6th on the Leafs in playoff points the last 2 seasons. That should be the expectation on this team at 7M.

 

[thusk]

Bennett has a better point per game rate in the playoffs the last 2 seasons than Tavares does as a Leaf and he’s played more playoff games over that span. Why use career points per game in the playoffs when Tavares’ best playoff run was before he joined the Leafs?

That 50-55 C has a SC, produces better in the playoffs and is not going to back down when he gets punched in the face. Tavares has not gotten past the 2nd round and will be 34 in September. Talk about running the same core back an 8th time and thinking it will work. They call that insanity.

And the previous 2 he had a 42 pts/82 game pace... That's just meaning he had a phenomenal chemistry with Tkachuk, together they are able to elevate their game and doesn't mean at all he could doing the same in Toronto

 

[Evilhomer]

21 with how many concussions?

Only a Leafs fan would give this response.

To Toronto: Noah Dobson
To Islanders: Matthew Knies + Conor Timmins + 2026 1st Rounder

I can see something like that if there were to be a done deal. But I highly doubt Dobson actually moves.

I think that would be a terrible trade for the Leafs. I wouldn't trade Knies for Dobson straight up.

 

[ToneDog]

Coincidentally Tavares was 4th and 6th on the Leafs in playoff points the last 2 seasons. That should be the expectation on this team at 7M.

The bar is not high. We get zero production from bottom 6 and D.

 

[Evilhomer]

According to David Pagnotta of The Fourth Period, the Toronto Maple Leafs and veteran forward John Tavares are close on a new extension, with some finer details all that needs to be done. He writes in a recent post, “There has been chatter of a three-year extension in place that requires some finetuning, but nobody will confirm. His AAV will drop, likely in the $7 million range.”

$7m might be fair but I'd rather do some shopping on July 1st to see if I can get a younger, speedier, better player for a bit more. Leafs might be concerned they lack C depth and may want to lock in JT sooner than later.

If they resign Tavares for $7 million per season...I will not like it.

 

[ToneDog]

Only a Leafs fan would give this response.


I think that would be a terrible trade for the Leafs. I wouldn't trade Knies for Dobson straight up.

Nylander did not get you Dobson when tre was looking to trade 88. You are thinking with your heart. It is going to hurt if you want Dobson.

 

[Evilhomer]

Nylander did not get you Dobson when tre was looking to trade 88. You are thinking with your heart. It is going to hurt if you want Dobson.

If Treliving was willing to trade Nylander for Dobson, we have bigger issues. I like Dobson's offensive ability, but he is a terrible defenseman when it comes to...defending. Anyone remember watching Jeff Norton play? That's what Dobson is. You don't trade Matt Knies for Jeff Norton. I expect that Dobson will end up being traded for a guy like Slavkofsky, because Lou has become a not so great GM.

 

[thusk]

If Tavares wants to sign somewhere else let him. Tampa isn’t missing Stamkos and I guarantee Nashville wouldn’t sign that contract today.

If Tampa would resign Stamkos at 7M unstead of guentzel at 10M to 10,5M, with cap raising those contrat will also be higher and using the 3- 3,5M remaining to upgrade the team depht... Do that make you worst or better?

 

[Americanadian]

If Tampa would resign Stamkos at 7M unstead of guentzel at 10M to 10,5M, with cap raising those contrat will also be higher and using the 3- 3,5M remaining to upgrade the team depht... Do that make you worst or better?

30 year old on pace for 40 goals/82 points or 35 year old on pace for 26 goals/50 points. No brainer.