Trades & Free Agency Thread: 2024-2025 - Trade Deadline Approaches

[ULF_55]

After marner plays with McDavid for a couple of weeks ...

RNH and Bouchard
for
marner and Ekman-Larsson

 

[thusk]

They call him a C but he isn't a great FO guy and he is a very distant 4th on the Sharks for draws taken. You are thinking as a winger and occasional C? He does hit a ton and pk.

48,2% is not that bad on FO, its actually more than Domi, holmberg or Minten

And hes RH, not a bad thing to have one RHC in your line up

Whoever take Gourde may be throwing away the assets he costs up front.

He's old and broken.

A lot of player still help in early 30... marchessault won conn smythe 2 years ago at 32... and at 33 Gourde still have thing to bring at the good price

He still play with grit, he still a player who having ability to raise his game when its matter, hes a great leader by exemple who will bring intensity when thing goes wrong..He can adapt his game basically to every system because hes making thing simple. If his actual season just make his value goes down, would just be a good thing in my mind because

 

[ULF_55]

He still play with grit, he still a player who having ability to raise his game when its matter, hes a great leader by exemple who will bring intensity when thing goes wrong..He can adapt his game basically to every system because hes making thing simple. If his actual season just make his value goes down, would just be a good thing in my mind because

He may not even be healthy before March 7th.

Would you give up a 2nd. for a 33 year old player who is on LTIR?

Would you do the Foligno trade again?

 

[thusk]

He may not even be healthy before March 7th.

Would you give up a 2nd. for a 33 year old player who is on LTIR?

Would you do the Foligno trade again?

Leafs having a much better team than when they traded for foligno

They don't need a 3rd liner and trying to make it a top 6 player, they need a 3rd liner player to use in a 3rd line.

And like i said, all depend of the price. For a 1st pick and 2 4th ( like foligno trade) no thanks, they are other option available

for a late 2nd or a robertson+ or whatever it can be interesting

PS ROR was also injured before TDL to foot and get injured again latet with leafs to a broke finger and still been pretty good for leafs and it was even a worst case...

 

[Fogelhund]

Leafs having a much better team than when they traded for foligno

They don't need a 3rd liner and trying to make it a top 6 player, they need a 3rd liner player to use in a 3rd line.

And like i said, all depend of the price. For a 1st pick and 2 4th ( like foligno trade) no thanks, they are other option available

for a late 2nd or a robertson+ or whatever it can be interesting

PS ROR was also injured before TDL to foot and get injured again latet with leafs to a broke finger and still been pretty good for leafs and it was even a worst case...

It's pretty simple, get a healthy player, not one coming off surgery with question marks.

 

[thusk]

It's pretty simple, get a healthy player, not one coming off surgery with question marks.

Every player coming with questions mark, we don't know if they gonna be able to adapt in a new system quickly and well enough to make an real impact, no guarantee they will stay healthy and deliver all expectations coming with the trade.

The perfect trade without any risk doesn't exist

 

[Fogelhund]

Every player coming with questions mark, we don't know if they gonna be able to adapt in a new system quickly and well enough to make an real impact, no guarantee they will stay healthy and deliver all expectations coming with the trade.

The perfect trade without any risk doesn't exist

Sure... but there is a difference between fitting in, and coming off surgery... a big difference... you'd think you would understand that.

 

[thusk]

Sure... but there is a difference between fitting in, and coming off surgery... a big difference... you'd think you would understand that.

Always depend of what kind of injury it is... Gourde, its a sport hernia, its not a big deal and a pretty basic injury for an athlete...

If it would be back injury by exemple or those kind of injury, it would not be the same because those injuries are pretty concerning. But for a sport hernia... you recover pretty well from this kind of injury with risk of recidivism pretty low, so for me its not really a big deal.

 

[Taylor Halls Teeth]

He may not even be healthy before March 7th.

Would you give up a 2nd. for a 33 year old player who is on LTIR?

Would you do the Foligno trade again?

Can they even make a trade for an LTIR player? I think his trade has to come at the 11th hour if he is even off LTIR in time. Nobody will pay a 2nd for an untested IR return. Any deal for Gourde would have to be last minute and pennies on the dollar.3rd or even 4th round pick.

 

[chamchibap]

Instead of Laughton, I wonder what it would take to get Cates…really strong defensively, playing C this year, fairly young … 1st + Minten?

 

[Budz]

I’ve been thinking a lot about trading Stolarz to Edmonton for something big. There is an old saying, if you have 2 goalies, you don’t have any goalies. Sell super high on Stolarz to a desparate Edmonton team.

Such as:
Bouchard
Or
RNH

I obviously know we have to add. The add would differ by deal.

For instance Domi also going in the RNH deal, or a Fraser Minter. Plus a pick. Timmons could also go in the Bouchard +++ again.

Or even a retained Stolarz alone would get a haul - then to be used for C or RD.

 

[Kurtz]

I’ve been thinking a lot about trading Stolarz to Edmonton for something big. There is an old saying, if you have 2 goalies, you don’t have any goalies. Sell super high on Stolarz to a desparate Edmonton team.

That saying doesn't mean what you think it means.

 

[Magic Man]

Trade #1
David Kampf (2.4M per for 3 years) + Topi Niemela + Artur Akhtyamov + 2016 1st round pick (Top-5 Protection - Defers to 2027)

for

Scott Laughton - (3M per for 2 years) + Rasmus Ristolainen (50% Retained - 2.55M per for 3 years)

Trade #2
Nicholas Robertson (875K per for 1 year - RFA) + 2027 4th round pick

for

Peyton Krebs (1.45M per for 2 years - RFA)

Knies - Matthews - Marner
Domi/Laughton - Tavares - Nylander
McMann - Domi/Laughton - Pacioretty
Lorentz - Krebs - Dewar
ex. Steeves - Reaves

Rielly - Ristolainen
McCabe - Tanev
Benoit - OEL
ex. Myers

Woll
Stolarz
ex. Murray

Timmins and Holmberg waived to the Marlies.

 

[jiggy35]

Two deals to rebuild the 3rd line:

Robertson + Fla 2nd for Laughton

Dewar + Holmberg + 27’ 3rd for Tanev 50%

In: 19G, 41P, 218 hits

Out: 10G, 23P, 138 hits

Aka twice the goals, twice the points, twice the hits

Knies - Matthews - Marner

McMann - Tavares - Nylander

Tanev* - Laughton* - Domi

Lorentz - Kampf - Jarnkrok

Pacioretty


McCabe - Tanev

Benoit - OEL

Rielly - Myers

Timmins

 

[Malachi Crunch]

A guy that never comes up here is Provorov. Probably because the price will be high for a rental. Still, Provorov at 50% (cap hit of 2.3-ish) would likely help generate some offense from the back end.

I wonder that if Rielly goes in the summer Provorov would be considered for replacement. He will probably make less than Rielly and he actually reminds me of Rielly when Rielly is playing okay. He's 28 too, so a lot of hockey still ahead of him.

 

[SprDaVE]

I’ve been thinking a lot about trading Stolarz to Edmonton for something big. There is an old saying, if you have 2 goalies, you don’t have any goalies. Sell super high on Stolarz to a desparate Edmonton team.

Such as:
Bouchard
Or
RNH

I obviously know we have to add. The add would differ by deal.

For instance Domi also going in the RNH deal, or a Fraser Minter. Plus a pick. Timmons could also go in the Bouchard +++ again.

Or even a retained Stolarz alone would get a haul - then to be used for C or RD.

Selling high would be very smart. I'd have a convo with Stolarz to what an extension would look like but seem likely trading him for a nice return would really help. I would only do it this off-season though.

Bouchard would be an interesting target. RHD and a big time weapon offensively... his extension will be massive I think.

 

[Fogelhund]

Trading Stolarz would be one heck of a gamble on our part, that much is for sure. I mean, I love Woll, but he hasn't proven to be reliable from the injury bug yet. We are really thin behind him at the moment. We also have Stolarz signed for another year.

On the other hand, the return on Stolarz wouldn't be insignificant, and it could be moving from a position of strength, to really add to the team.

From the Leafs perspective, if seems like an interesting off season move.

From an Oilers perspective, they are looking for net stability going into the playoffs. Would they entertain moving Bouchard? Now would be the time to make a trade with Oilers, as they have motivation to improve that spot.... We'd have to be committed to the idea of moving on from Morgan.... I'm not sure something the team wants to do... but if you are bringing in Bouchard you really don't need him.

RNH + Bouchard for Stolarz + Rielly + ??

The cap hits cancel out, Edmonton gets their goalie, plus an Offensive D at a lower rate than Bouchard will want offseason... I'm not sure how they will deal with Bouchard's demands... that's going to be tough.

It seems like a trade both teams wouldn't be very happy with... But it's interesting and creative. Frankly, if Edmonton said no, I'm fine with that... go find a goalie somewhere else...

 

[Nineteen67]

Trading Stolarz would be one heck of a gamble on our part, that much is for sure. I mean, I love Woll, but he hasn't proven to be reliable from the injury bug yet. We are really thin behind him at the moment. We also have Stolarz signed for another year.

On the other hand, the return on Stolarz wouldn't be insignificant, and it could be moving from a position of strength, to really add to the team.

From the Leafs perspective, if seems like an interesting off season move.

From an Oilers perspective, they are looking for net stability going into the playoffs. Would they entertain moving Bouchard? Now would be the time to make a trade with Oilers, as they have motivation to improve that spot.... We'd have to be committed to the idea of moving on from Morgan.... I'm not sure something the team wants to do... but if you are bringing in Bouchard you really don't need him.

RNH + Bouchard for Stolarz + Rielly + ??

The cap hits cancel out, Edmonton gets their goalie, plus an Offensive D at a lower rate than Bouchard will want offseason... I'm not sure how they will deal with Bouchard's demands... that's going to be tough.

It seems like a trade both teams wouldn't be very happy with... But it's interesting and creative. Frankly, if Edmonton said no, I'm fine with that... go find a goalie somewhere else...

They went to the SCF with their current goalie so I doubt they’d trade him their top D for an unproven goalie and Rielly.

They could use Tanev if they’re willing to give up something for him, but the Leafs think they have a chance to win a couple of series so they can’t move Tanev.

 

[Fogelhund]

They went to the SCF with their current goalie so I doubt they’d trade him their top D for an unproven goalie and Rielly.

They could use Tanev if they’re willing to give up something for him, but the Leafs think they have a chance to win a couple of series so they can’t move Tanev.

They need a goalie... everyone sees it, everyone knows it.

Edmonton press knows it. --> Toronto hockey insiders see a few holes in Edmonton Oilers' Stanley Cup dreams

Edmonton fans know it --> Post-Game Talk: - This team has a problem in net

Stolarz has top numbers this season, and last.... Yes, they went to the SCF with their current goalie, and then lost, partially because of their goalie. They need better if they are truly going to compete...

Whether they'd make this trade, that's pretty questionable, but then, McDavid is a UFA in a year, and they need to do something to fix their issue, and I doubt that they could pick up a goalie with better numbers this year than Stolarz.

 

[ACC1224]

I'd be very hesitant to move either goalie at this point and I think the Team agrees and would have no interest in doing so.

Send Murray to Edmonton.

 

[Fogelhund]

I'd be very hesitant to move either goalie at this point and I think the Team agrees and would have no interest in doing so.

Send Murray to Edmonton.

Honestly, I don't see the point in sending Murray to Edmonton, except maybe as a favour to Murray. We aren't going to get any value for him, nothing that really helps us... and we don't really want to do Edmonton a favour.

I would be hesitant to move Stolarz too... I completely agree, but then if you could do something crazy and pick up guys like Bouchard and RNH to add to this team... I mean, it should make you pause... would Edmonton do that...maybe not, but then they are going to have to do something, and there are questions as to whether they can afford Bouchard.

Oilers Trading Evan Bouchard Could Solve Future Cap Issues - The Hockey Writers Edmonton Oilers Latest News, Analysis & More

The Edmonton Oilers should consider trading Evan Bouchard in hopes of freeing up cap space, so they can solve their future cap issues.

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[SprDaVE]

Trading Stolarz would be one heck of a gamble on our part, that much is for sure. I mean, I love Woll, but he hasn't proven to be reliable from the injury bug yet. We are really thin behind him at the moment. We also have Stolarz signed for another year.

On the other hand, the return on Stolarz wouldn't be insignificant, and it could be moving from a position of strength, to really add to the team.

From the Leafs perspective, if seems like an interesting off season move.

From an Oilers perspective, they are looking for net stability going into the playoffs. Would they entertain moving Bouchard? Now would be the time to make a trade with Oilers, as they have motivation to improve that spot.... We'd have to be committed to the idea of moving on from Morgan.... I'm not sure something the team wants to do... but if you are bringing in Bouchard you really don't need him.

RNH + Bouchard for Stolarz + Rielly + ??

The cap hits cancel out, Edmonton gets their goalie, plus an Offensive D at a lower rate than Bouchard will want offseason... I'm not sure how they will deal with Bouchard's demands... that's going to be tough.

It seems like a trade both teams wouldn't be very happy with... But it's interesting and creative. Frankly, if Edmonton said no, I'm fine with that... go find a goalie somewhere else...

It's 100% an off-season move for me. I think they need to move one of Woll or Stolarz, fill up another position of need, promote Hildeby, and go from there.

If you intend to keep both long-term and Stolarz' extension is really good, then look at trading Hildeby I guess.

 

[Nineteen67]

They need a goalie... everyone sees it, everyone knows it.

Edmonton press knows it. --> Toronto hockey insiders see a few holes in Edmonton Oilers' Stanley Cup dreams

Edmonton fans know it --> Post-Game Talk: - This team has a problem in net

Stolarz has top numbers this season, and last.... Yes, they went to the SCF with their current goalie, and then lost, partially because of their goalie. They need better if they are truly going to compete...

Whether they'd make this trade, that's pretty questionable, but then, McDavid is a UFA in a year, and they need to do something to fix their issue, and I doubt that they could pick up a goalie with better numbers this year than Stolarz.

I dont see how they could give up on Bouchard without getting a proven D in return.

The core has put the team in bind and the Leafs either rebuild now or give them one more chance. Id say give them another shot because if the standing hold as they are, it’s not inconceivable for the Leafs to beat Ottawa. Assuming they do, I don’t think they should be taking a chance of going through the playoffs with one goalie.

If they don’t win a round they have all the time in the world rebuild.

 

[Fogelhund]

I dont see how they could give up on Bouchard without getting a proven D in return.

I did suggest sending them Rielly.

Stolarz + Rielly + ?? for RNH + Bouchard.

 

[thewave]

I did suggest sending them Rielly.

Stolarz + Rielly + ?? for RNH + Bouchard.

I think Rielly is sort of proving the wrong things right now.