Trades & Free Agency Thread: 2024-2025 - Trade Deadline Approaches

[thewave]

Adding Saad only works if you punt other players to make room. When healthy this team has a lot of wingers. I've given up hoping they'll finally move on from Reaves as well.

Reaves plays like his dad's the coach and he doesn't care. GM can make it simple, you're getting Saad but Reaves is gone.

Does not hit, does not fight. Does not have a place here. Why does he stay?

 

[Skullz]

Adding Saad only works if you punt other players to make room. When healthy this team has a lot of wingers. I've given up hoping they'll finally move on from Reaves as well.

We’ve got plenty of players to punt. Unfortunately seems like we aren’t going to do it. But Reaves, Dewar, and Holmberg can all go. In that order.

 

[thewave]

We’ve got plenty of players to punt. Unfortunately seems like we aren’t going to do it. But Reaves, Dewar, and Holmberg can all go. In that order.

What do you think is the best way to get rid of them?

 

[Puckstuff]

Reaves plays like his dad's the coach and he doesn't care. GM can make it simple, you're getting Saad but Reaves is gone.

Does not hit, does not fight. Does not have a place here. Why does he stay?

He’s the worst player I’ve ever seen

 

[Skullz]

What do you think is the best way to get rid of them?

Well we can save most of Reaves cap just by waiving him.

I’d imagine we could get a late pick back for both Dewar and Holmberg.

 

[SprDaVE]

We’ve got plenty of players to punt. Unfortunately seems like we aren’t going to do it. But Reaves, Dewar, and Holmberg can all go. In that order.

I don't necessarily disagree but Holmberg has shown to be versatile at least in terms of playing center or wing. We can't drop even more center depth for a winger. Dewar has been a huge let down in a lot of ways, might be someone to cut bait soon for sure. Reaves needs to go at all cost.

Robertson is also still someone that wants to be traded per last report. So if he goes, Saad could replace his production for sure.

 

[Kiwi]

Depends on what he wants, he's got his name on the Stanley Cup already, he could have just stayed in the AHL and made bank, so what is he after? Most guys who have the cup on their resume just want bank.

If it's a cup, Tampa is interesting, him joining the team and maybe Isaac Howard addition could really give them a top 9.

Tampa are good but there's better teams around if he's cup hunting imo
We'd have a great situation he could walk straight into but if Canada is a no-no I guess that's out

Adding Saad only works if you punt other players to make room. When healthy this team has a lot of wingers. I've given up hoping they'll finally move on from Reaves as well.

When I look at our bottom 6 scoring I ask myself who don't I want to get rid of, most of them are basically useless

 

[ULF_55]

He won't take it. He just walked away from 6m for some reason. I can't imagine he would take that. It's weird nobody worked out some alternative arrangement


He will want 2m+ to prove himself. Then he is not at a loss this season and hopes to make 4.5m or better next

Cap Hit was: $4.5mm

Reported amount forfeit: $5.425mm
Next year actual: $3,625,000mm
So $1.8mm for the rest of this year.

So how much does he need over 2 years?

Would someone offer 3 * $3mm?

Eliminate some risk that the rest of this year might be a tough transition to recoup the $3.625mm.
He's 32, not a 20 something with a decade ahead of him.

 

[MarMarSab3]

Knies Matthews Nylander
Mcmann Tavares Marner
Saad Domi Jarnkrok
Pacioretty Dewar Lorentz
Extra: Holmberg

Reaves, Kampf, Robertson traded or waived

 

[uncleben]

He won't take it. He just walked away from 6m for some reason. I can't imagine he would take that. It's weird nobody worked out some alternative arrangement

That's the exact reason I think he would take it.
If it was about the money, he'd just do his duty in the AHL and cash the cheque

Him walking away from that guaranteed payday tells me it's not about the money, and he'll probably take a cheap deal for the promise of another chance in the NHL

 

[SprDaVE]

When I look at our bottom 6 scoring I ask myself who don't I want to get rid of, most of them are basically useless

Honestly fair. But I think Marner, Nylander, Knies, McMann, Pacioretty, Robertson, Domi and Lorentz have all been more or less good to capable for the most part. Saad would boost the goal scoring depth a lot for sure, but it certainly doesn't make our physicality or intangibles that much better. Saad is also having a rough season shooting wise, and it's possible he continues his struggles on a new team at which point he becomes another retread that can't produce consistently.

 

[Skullz]

I don't necessarily disagree but Holmberg has shown to be versatile at least in terms of playing center or wing. We can't drop even more center depth for a winger. Dewar has been a huge let down in a lot of ways, might be someone to cut bait soon for sure. Reaves needs to go at all cost.

Robertson is also still someone that wants to be traded per last report. So if he goes, Saad could replace his production for sure.

Yeah I agree, which is why Holmberg is the one I would keep above the other two. We also have too many marginal defence men. Need to make a clear upgrade there.

I wonder if Benoit carries value?

 

[thewave]

Honestly fair. But I think Marner, Nylander, Knies, McMann, Pacioretty, Robertson, Domi and Lorentz have all been more or less good to capable for the most part. Saad would boost the goal scoring depth a lot for sure, but it certainly doesn't make our physicality or intangibles that much better. Saad is also having a rough seasoning shooting wise, and it's possible he continues his struggles on a new team at which point he becomes another retread that can't produce consistently.

We have little assets to trade. Much to dump. High expectations. On a shoestring budget and contracts coming due for tenders while fighting father time on guy like Tanev that are signed for forever.

Looks like we may have to F around to find out a bit after this whole Dubas experiment so many were so stoked about.

 

[thewave]

Cap Hit was: $4.5mm

Reported amount forfeit: $5.425mm
Next year actual: $3,625,000mm
So $1.8mm for the rest of this year.

So how much does he need over 2 years?

Would someone offer 3 * $3mm?

Eliminate some risk that the rest of this year might be a tough transition to recoup the $3.625mm.
He's 32, not a 20 something with a decade ahead of him.

That really clears it up. He is going to want a couple million to end the season somehow or someone willing to give him some runway with a 3x3m

Toughy. Not sure we can get him

 

[SprDaVE]

Yeah I agree, which is why Holmberg is the one I would keep above the other two. We also have too many marginal defence men. Need to make a clear upgrade there.

I wonder if Benoit carries value?

Benoit's fine to me. Good skater that likes to hit and play physical. Adding a dynamic defender would probably be a welcome boost for sure though. Timmins has not progressed enough after a promising start. Myers is what he is.

If there's any truth to the Walman and Kunin report, I think that does check a lot of boxes.

 

[ULF_55]

We have little assets to trade. Much to dump. High expectations. On a shoestring budget and contracts coming due for tenders while fighting father time on guy like Tanev that are signed for forever.

Looks like we may have to F around to find out a bit after this whole Dubas experiment so many were so stoked about.

Dubas did the contracts, but not the acquisitions.
Dubas did sign Tavares, but any Leafs GM at the time would have.

Treliving has to supplement the Core forwards. Bringing in a Dewar, Reaves, Paccioretty, Lorentz isn't really moving the needle.

Leafs made the 2nd. round with O'Reilly ...

 

[SHANNYPLAN]

Leafs - Kings
Easton Cowan
For
Brant Clarke

Leafs - Blues - Blue Jackets
Leafs Get
Brayden Schenn @ 50% & Mathieu Olivier

Blues Get
Nick Robertson, Topi Niemela & 1st 2026

Blue Jackets Get
50% of Brayden Schenn’s contract, Calle Jarnkrok, Pontus Holmberg & Panthers 2nd

Knies - Matthews - Marner*
Patches - Tavares - Nylander
McMann - Schenn - Domi*
Lorentz - Kampf - Olivier

Rielly - McCabe
OEL - - Tanev
Benoit - Clarke

 

[thewave]

Dubas did the contracts, but not the acquisitions.
Dubas did sign Tavares, but any Leafs GM at the time would have.

Treliving has to supplement the Core forwards. Bringing in a Dewar, Reaves, Paccioretty, Lorentz isn't really moving the needle.

Leafs made the 2nd. round with O'Reilly ...

Yeah that's a really good point. I hope he can be creative and hammer out some deals because at this point it's a team with elite players and seemingly elite tenders and mid grade D. The depth isn't doing a thing.

 

[Dreakmur]

He was our best chance to dump Reaves.

We don’t even need to dump Reaves. If we they want to get rid of him, send him yo the AHL and bury almost all of his salary.

Leafs - Kings
Easton Cowan
For
Brant Clarke

Leafs - Blues - Blue Jackets
Leafs Get
Brayden Schenn @ 50% & Mathieu Olivier

Blues Get
Nick Robertson, Topi Niemela & 1st 2026

Blue Jackets Get
50% of Brayden Schenn’s contract, Calle Jarnkrok, Pontus Holmberg & Panthers 2nd

Knies - Matthews - Marner*
Patches - Tavares - Nylander
McMann - Schenn - Domi*
Lorentz - Kampf - Olivier

Rielly - McCabe
OEL - - Tanev
Benoit - Clarke

3-way with Vancouver and St Louis

Vancouver gets Morgan Rielly and Bobby McMann

We get Colton Parayko and Brayden Schenn

St Louis gets JT Miller, Carson Soucy, and Easton Cowan.

 

[Fogelhund]

We don’t even need to dump Reaves. If we they want to get rid of him, send him yo the AHL and bury almost all of his salary.



3-way with Vancouver and St Louis

Vancouver gets Morgan Rielly and Bobby McMann

We get Colton Parayko and Brayden Schenn

St Louis gets JT Miller, Carson Soucy, and Easton Cowan.

Why does Vancouver want Rielly?

 

[Dreakmur]

Why does Vancouver want Rielly?

It’s more about unloading Miller, but Rielly gives them a really good anchor for their second pairing.

 

[Fogelhund]

It’s more about unloading Miller, but Rielly gives them a really good anchor for their second pairing.

They hardly need two LD of the same type, with Rielly being the lesser or the two.

 

[Americanadian]

Cap Hit was: $4.5mm

Reported amount forfeit: $5.425mm
Next year actual: $3,625,000mm
So $1.8mm for the rest of this year.

So how much does he need over 2 years?

Would someone offer 3 * $3mm?

Eliminate some risk that the rest of this year might be a tough transition to recoup the $3.625mm.
He's 32, not a 20 something with a decade ahead of him.

He’ll probably sign for a pro-rated 2M this season and then play his heart out to try to earn a 1 year 4M deal next season. Chicago probably signs him to that number in the summer.

 

[nuck]

If Roy don't want to sign unstead of being overpay, what you doing? get someone who can fit and bring something you need and its what tre did with OEL.

Personally i not a fan of Krebs, i dont know what he would bring more than robertson...

And you can't leavong in the past reacting in fonction of what happening previously, you've got a chance, you take it if you're able to get the right fit at the right price. That's it.

I liked Kunin as a cheap player option

Robby is not a center and will never be one. A small winger built for top 6 on a club with two stars and a Knies already in the top 6. Plus he doesn't want to stay Krebs is bigger, hits a bit, and the Leafs have nothing in the pipeline for C. The biggest drawback is they only have the assets for limited deals so Krebs might reduce their options. No question he is a question mark but Buffalo is a hard place for young players to shine.

 

[thusk]

Robby is not a center and will never be one. A small winger built for top 6 on a club with two stars and a Knies already in the top 6. Plus he doesn't want to stay Krebs is bigger, hits a bit, and the Leafs have nothing in the pipeline for C. The biggest drawback is they only have the assets for limited deals so Krebs might reduce their options. No question he is a question mark but Buffalo is a hard place for young players to shine.

The fact krebs is a center doesn't make him a better player... Hes a pretty useless player. The only thing i would do is maybe a change scenario like robertson vs krebs, that's it.

Even with limited asset, they a lot of better player available than Krebs... add an other player who can't score is not what wiuld improve depht scoring

If krebs would be a 4th round pick, nobody would talk about him...All the buzz is about he had been a 17th overal pick nothing else...