Trades & Free Agency Thread: 2024-2025 - Trade Deadline Approaches

[WTFMAN99]

If I remembercorrectly you're not big on the idea of adding Ryan Strome but to me that's the guy I'd love to add, add him and Kaeden and this team is far better

Not a guy that interests me anymore, he was someone I thought about earlier this year and with what I saw and the advance stats show, the appeal isn't there.

Someone like Pageau would be nice.

 

[nuck]

If I remembercorrectly you're not big on the idea of adding Ryan Strome but to me that's the guy I'd love to add, add him and Kaeden and this team is far better

No contact in his game, not great on the dot, and doesn't pk. But he is an actual full time center. $5M per with another season on his deal after this one. He was more effective with the Rangers where he was kind of a poor mans #2c so I suspect he would be a better Leaf than he was a Duck. Anaheim has not been an easy team to look good on for a while.

 

[Rare Jewel]

Not a guy that interests me anymore, he was someone I thought about earlier this year and with what I saw and the advance stats show, the appeal isn't there.

Someone like Pageau would be nice.

I feel that Strome would be better used on the wing. In fact, if Mitch does fly the coup in the summer, he might be a decent stopgap for that spot.

 

[WTFMAN99]

I feel that Strome would be better used on the wing. In fact, if Mitch does fly the coup in the summer, he might be a decent stopgap for that spot.

If it was a soft deal in the summer, it's a discussion.

The other thing I didn't like is that he is primarily a shooting centre versus a playmaker, I feel like JT / Matthews are already in that mold, they're probably better trigger guys than playmakers so, adding a 3rd isn't so appealing.

 

[Rare Jewel]

If it was a soft deal in the summer, it's a discussion.

The other thing I didn't like is that he is primarily a shooting centre versus a playmaker, I feel like JT / Matthews are already in that mold, they're probably better trigger guys than playmakers so, adding a 3rd isn't so appealing.

Are sure JT will be back as well? Probably, even though it may be best to part ways, depending on how the spring goes.

But a shoot-first center? His assists total is usually much higher than the goal totals. He's only actually had 1 20-goal season.

 

[thusk]

McMann joined the Leafs organization at age 23. He was a prospect. Not sure why you're splitting hairs.

Mcmann being waived a couple of time, he played his 1st game at 26 and his 1st complete seasom at 27...Every team could get him free and they didn't

It was reported that there was no veto, and that they both laughed at the deal together.

He had been reported leafs came really close to a deal including hagel and fleury vs mrazek, knies and at least a 1st round. You can say whatever you want but Dubas almost traded Knies, it's just a fact...

You can think whatever you want, but it doesn't change their contributions this year.

Their contributions?!?!?! what are really their contribution?!?! 24 pts pace for a unidimentionnal offensive player who bring nothing else in his play

or

a guy who actually bring less offensive, worst defensive game than Kampf

Depht scoring had been #1 issues all year long. Leafs 3rd actually closer to a 4th line than a good 3rd

 

[WTFMAN99]

Are sure JT will be back as well? Probably, even though it may be best to part ways, depending on how the spring goes.

But a shoot-first center? His assists total is usually much higher than the goal totals. He's only actually had 1 20-goal season.

Yeah, he's shoot first but doesn't have the talent of say a Matthews for the G-A ratio to be wonky.

I think Panarin carried him pretty hard, not surprised he doesn't look good in Anaheim as it's a bit of a tricky situation there but I just don't view him as a solution here.

As for JT, the cheap answer is it depends.

I'd want him to do the deferral thing to keep his cap hit in check.

2 years 6M per but defer 1.5M per year so it's 4.5M artificial cap hit. He's made a bunch of money, does he want to seriously try for a cup or not? If he wants 6-7M but won't defer, thanks but no thanks, it's too difficult to flesh out other areas of the roster.

 

[Aashir]

Josh Leivo leads the entire KHL in scoring, you think hes a good NHL player?

well josh leivo didn't play over 50 games in his career due to injuries/not cracking lineups and only ever peaked as a 30 point player

DeAngelo left as a 30 point defencemen who was 2 year removed of a 65 point pace season and he wasn't forced to leave due to injuries. This was a dude who put up over 40 points on the flyers...

I think this isn't a fair comparison at all

The Leafs can put in a waiver claim for him.

We could, but I doubt we do. Any team that could claim him would've probably just signed him. Moreover, I still am worried a bit about his locker room presence as it hasn't been the best in the past

 

[Rare Jewel]

I think Panarin carried him pretty hard, not surprised he doesn't look good in Anaheim as it's a bit of a tricky situation there but I just don't view him as a solution here.

As a center, I'd agree. As a winger, he could be useful. The underlying numbers in Anaheim have been awful for some time now for all their guys; His NYR numbers show much better. Yes, boosted by some good players, but he could get similar support for Matthews and Nylander here.

2 years 6M per but defer 1.5M per year so it's 4.5M artificial cap hit. He's made a bunch of money, does he want to seriously try for a cup or not? If he wants 6-7M but won't defer, thanks but no thanks, it's too difficult to flesh out other areas of the roster.

I mean, for me, it would be more about change rather than the numbers; if they crash out again early, then something's gotta give.

 

[nuck]

Not a guy that interests me anymore, he was someone I thought about earlier this year and with what I saw and the advance stats show, the appeal isn't there.

Someone like Pageau would be nice.

So he pks,, has contact in his game, is good on the faceoff but he produces little offence. Not Kampf bad and WAY better than this year's Kampf. Same cap cost as Strome so trading some offence for a traditional 3C skill set. I have always liked him and its been a few years but he was there for the Isles when they made it out of the 1st round. Depends on the cost and the options right? I would like ROR or Cozens more but they may not even be available. If Toews is coming back do they look at him or will the lineup for a free wallet make that waisted effort? Exciting times?

 

[WTFMAN99]

So he pks,, has contact in his game, is good on the faceoff but he produces little offence. Not Kampf bad and WAY better than this year's Kampf. Same cap cost as Strome so trading some offence for a traditional 3C skill set. I have always liked him and its been a few years but he was there for the Isles when they made it out of the 1st round. Depends on the cost and the options right? I would like ROR or Cozens more but they may not even be available. If Toews is coming back do they look at him or will the lineup for a free wallet make that waisted effort? Exciting times?

Toews is apparently not happening this year.

Pageau is playing at a 42 pt pace this year, right shot centre...pks...and he generally brings it in the playoffs.

There was talk of NYI wanting some more goal scoring, maybe something like 3rd+Robertson could get it done? Might take our FLA 2nd though but I would want to try to get 1M or more retained in that scenario.

 

[Dekes For Days]

Mcmann being waived a couple of time, he played his 1st game at 26 and his 1st complete seasom at 27...Every team could get him free and they didn't

He was waived once, by Treliving. Good thing he wasn't claimed, and good thing we got him in 2020. Really helping us this year.

He had been reported leafs came really close to a deal including hagel and fleury vs mrazek, knies and at least a 1st round. You can say whatever you want but Dubas almost traded Knies, it's just a fact...

That is not a fact at all. That report was immediately refuted by Friedman, who noted that the veto never happened because Knies was a complete non-starter for both Shanahan and Dubas.

Their contributions?!?

Yes. You may not think they have contributed enough, but they have contributed to the team this year. They have added 10 of the depth goals, for one.

 

[Jimmy Firecracker]

I'm fairly confident Jarnkrok will play this season, less sure about Hakanpaa despite his reported plans of playing in Four Nations and potentially getting into a few Leafs games beforehand. However if it's not all bullshit that Hakanpaa is coming back, we could treat getting healthy as two decent TDL adds; a middle six defensively responsible winger and a bottom pair right-shot (no different than past acquisitions of Lyubushkin and Schenn).

If that's the case, what few resources this team does have should be put into acquiring a middle-six centre so that we aren't forced to play Holmberg or Minten too high up. Who that is I'm not sure, a lot of the names bandied about are mediocre or would be too expensive to acquire. Pro-scouts have to find a diamond in the rough here and see if we can't get someone packaging Florida's 2nd, Colorado or Edmonton's 3rd, and potentially Robertson.

 

[Amadeus]

Easton Cowan for Vince Dunn

 

[Dreakmur]

Not sure what you're talking about, but it's still not what I was talking about.

You’re always talking about the exact same thing - Dubas’ perfection.

McMann joined the Leafs organization at age 23. He was a prospect. Not sure why you're splitting hairs.

When was the first time he had actual value?

It was reported that there was no veto, and that they both laughed at the deal together.

There’s enough smoke around that deal to know something was in the works.

You can think whatever you want, but it doesn't change their contributions this year.

Their contributions are entry level players on entry level contracts. Holding on to replacement level players isn’t a sign of genius…

If Robertson had any actual value he would have been traded.

 

[Dekes For Days]

You’re always talking about the exact same thing - Dubas’ perfection.

The only one who has ever talked about that is you.

When was the first time he had actual value?

Not really relevant. He's valuable to us right now.

There’s enough smoke around that deal to know something was in the works.

They talked with Chicago, but Knies was never offered.

Their contributions are entry level players on entry level contracts. Holding on to replacement level players isn’t a sign of genius…If Robertson had any actual value he would have been traded.

I don't care what you think of them. They're contributing to the team this year.

 

[Antropovsky]

Always been a big fan of Captain Morgan.

This season, its hard to argue that he's one of our top 3 defensemen though. Is it the new kid? Does he not work under Berube's system? Is he hurt? Guess we'll never know for sure.

Hate to say it, but he may be our DeRozan.

It's because code officials wouldn't let him white wash the bricks on his new historic house.

 

[Jacquestrapless]

 

[WTFMAN99]

Trade market waking up, Taylor Hall to Carolina. I thought that Hall could go under the radar a bit.

 

[Jacquestrapless]

 

[Jimmy Firecracker]

 

[MarMarSab3]

Wow, that is huge, guessing Svechnikov is a piece to Avs

 

[TMLAM34]

Holy shit.

 

[Jimmy Firecracker]

 

[Americanadian]

For everyone that says the Leafs couldn’t trade a big piece in their contention window - look at what Colorado is doing. I’m so envious of an active front office.