Trades & Free Agency Thread: 2024-2025 Season Edition

Does O’Rielly make the Leafs better?

  • Yes

    Votes: 36 57.1%
  • No

    Votes: 24 38.1%
  • Undecided

    Votes: 3 4.8%

  • Total voters
    63
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Kiwi

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Top prospects are rarely, if ever traded for rentals, so I'm not sure where the idea that the Leafs would need to give up Cowan is coming from regardless

The only way I could see a guy like Cowan, Minten or Danford moved is if we're getting a young cost controlled 2C back, or a long term partner for Rielly

I think you can justify paying a high price if you're getting the ideal player of need back, like the Horvat deal for the Islanders

I'd still probably just get a guy like Dvorak, who I think is going to be cheapish and whilst not a world beater would be useful if we run into injuries
 
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TheShape

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Top prospects are rarely, if ever traded for rentals, so I'm not sure where the idea that the Leafs would need to give up Cowan is coming from regardless
I wanted to gauge my eyes out any time I saw people casually offering up Knies for rentals a few years ago. He was pretty close to untouchable, I would think Cowan is in the same boat.
 

arso40

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I wanted to gauge my eyes out any time I saw people casually offering up Knies for rentals a few years ago. He was pretty close to untouchable, I would think Cowan is in the same boat.
If we’re getting a number top 4 young right shot Dman at a cheap cost he’s gone I would think
 

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If we’re getting a number top 4 young right shot Dman at a cheap cost he’s gone I would think
Problem is a #2 d-man and/or Top 6 power-forward has been next to impossible for Leafs to land.

It might be a lateral move overall, although getting a d-man who plays 20 minutes a night versus a forward playing 18?

Maybe overall improvement, especially if one of their prospects can bring back/replace that grit?
 
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arso40

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Problem is a #2 d-man and/or Top 6 power-forward has been next to impossible for Leafs to land.

It might be a lateral move overall, although getting a d-man who plays 20 minutes a night versus a forward playing 18?

Maybe overall improvement, especially if one of their prospects can bring back/replace that grit?
I was speaking about Cowan knies is a big no move you thinking Cowans ready to play 18 min a night for the leafs?
 

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If we’re getting a number top 4 young right shot Dman at a cheap cost he’s gone I would think

Leafs traded for Muzzin without giving up a prospect anywhere near Cowan's level (Durzi eventually boomed, but hadn't at the time of his trade).

I can't name a single trade in recent years where a team gave up a Cowan level prospect during a tdl deal. Not sure why the Leafs have to suddenly do so.
 

arso40

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Leafs traded for Muzzin without giving up a prospect anywhere near Cowan's level (Durzi eventually boomed, but hadn't at the time of his trade).

I can't name a single trade in recent years where a team gave up a Cowan level prospect during a tdl deal. Not sure why the Leafs have to suddenly do so.
We traded a first durzi and Grundstrom ? You don’t think that’s more than Cowan worth alone ?
 

Menzinger

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We traded a first durzi and Grundstrom ? You don’t think that’s more than Cowan worth alone ?

Nope. Cowan is a natural centre and is by far the teams best prospect. Quality always greater than quantity when it comes to prospects.

I'd have no hesitation giving up a couple of other lesser prospects in place of Cowan.
 
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arso40

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Nope. Cowan is a natural centre and is by far the teams best prospect. Quality always greater than quantity when it comes to prospects.

I'd have no hesitation giving up a couple of other lesser prospects in place of Cowan.
He’s my guy too but he can be sacrificed to fill a need of the franchise name me a solid young top 4 right shot and I pull the trigger we have Mitch Matthews nylander up front we need someone On d we have solid dmen but we need a right shot better than McCabe
 

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The contract ended up abit ludicrous, but I’m still pretty confident he’s the perfect C for Willy.
Yup. It's about 1 mill rich and 2 years too long, but his two-way ability would be perfect for the 2C position. Boston is in a bad spot and they may want to get out from the contract while they still can. It probably won't cost much to take him. Send them enough expiring money and a few mid prospects like Steeves and Niemela.
 
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Yup. It's about 1 mill rich and 2 years too long, but his two-way ability would be perfect for the 2C position. Boston is in a bad spot and they may want to get out from the contract while they still can. It probably won't cost much to take him. Send them enough expiring money and a few mid prospects like Steeves and Niemela.
I’d keep steeves he’s more further along but I agree with the approach not sure we have enough contracts to offset that contract though then put him with Mitch and play them against the other teams best lines
 

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Steve Simmons seems to think we are in on Laughton. One more year at 3 million. Would fit with Berube.

He’s okay; I would rather a bigger addition though.
 

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