Trades & Free Agency Thread: 2024-2025 Season Edition

[Jacquestrapless]

 

[Lightsol]

We should be going all in on someone like Cozens. Any deal would definitely require us to overpay, especially when trading within the division but adding Cozens addresses a major need moving forward.

Isn't the demand from Buffalo on Cozens ridiculous? I was told it's something like Domi, OEL, Cowan and multiple draft picks? f*** that.

 

[Lightsol]

I'd be asking for Cowan and if Leafs decline, Minten+.

Leafs:

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[Kurtz]

Cozen could be a star once he escapes Buffalo. But that 7m contract would be tricky to navigate.

 

[Kiwi]

Cozen could be a star once he escapes Buffalo. But that 7m contract would be tricky to navigate.

Tricky isn't the word, it's bloody close to impossible unless your giving Marner the chop

 

[TMLAM34]

Domi (3.75), Jarnkrok (2.1) and Reaves (1.35) = 7.2. Never say never!!!

I would love to get Cozens, but I feel like that’s probably an off-season move and the deal would most definitely need to have Cowan going the other way.

For now, Krebs, Hathaway and Carlo would be my targets. Acquiring those three would make us extremely dangerous on both ends of the ice IMO.

Knies - Matthews - Domi
Pacioretty - Tavares - Marner
McMann - Krebs - Nylander
Lorentz - Kampf - Hathaway

McCabe - Tanev
Ekman Larsson/Rielly - Carlo
Rielly/Ekman Larsson - Myers/Timmins

 

[thusk]

Domi (3.75), Jarnkrok (2.1) and Reaves (1.35) = 7.2. Never say never!!!

I would love to get Cozens, but I feel like that’s probably an off-season move and the deal would most definitely need to have Cowan going the other way.

For now, Krebs, Hathaway and Carlo would be my targets. Acquiring those three would make us extremely dangerous on both ends of the ice IMO.

its not how its working how thing working

3,75M + 2,21 (LTIR)+ 1,3 doesn't = 7,2 M available

even if we dont considerate Jarnkrok as LTIR anymore because you need to consider you will need to find 2 more players who's gonna take their roster spot and their salary will not be at 0, so you need to consider this

So your moving reaves and exemple bring a player at a salary of 850k, you're saving 0,425M, not 1,3 M

 

[TMLAM34]

its not how its working how thing working

3,75M + 2,21 (LTIR)+ 1,3 doesn't = 7,2 M available

even if we dont considerate Jarnkrok as LTIR anymore because you need to consider you will need to find 2 more players who's gonna take their roster spot and their salary will not be at 0, so you need to consider this

So your moving reaves and exemple bring a player at a salary of 850k, you're saving 0,425M, not 1,3 M

Don’t we have a 23 man roster right now? Don’t we only technically need 20?

 

[Fogelhund]

Baseless rumour from a fan. Why on earth would we be looking for a 2C at this point... it makes no sense.

 

[Fogelhund]

Tricky isn't the word, it's bloody close to impossible unless your giving Marner the chop

Funny enough, if you move Kampf and Robertson, demote or trade Reaves, run a 21 man roster, it actually works. Also Hakanpaa and Jarnkrok either LTIR, or traded.

Note, that is Cozens on the roster. I ran the numbers just to see, not that I think it's realistic.

 

[SprDaVE]

Baseless rumour from a fan. Why on earth would we be looking for a 2C at this point... it makes no sense.

To be fair, the rumour is from TheFourthPeriod's David Pagnotta who is hit or miss for this stuff. Skip to minute 4 below. Basically mentions the Leafs looking for a 2nd line center to push JT to LW if possible. Leafslatest just reposts interviews and Leaf related news.

Mirtle also said on Fan590 yesterday or the day before the Leafs have been looking for a center since camp.

 

[Menzinger]

Trading for a 2C makes sense, even if they plan on extending Tavares. Free agency options next summer are slim. And it would ease the burden of giving up the team's 1st next year or someone like Danford

 

[TMLAM34]

Funny enough, if you move Kampf and Robertson, demote or trade Reaves, run a 21 man roster, it actually works. Also Hakanpaa and Jarnkrok either LTIR, or traded.

Note, that is Cozens on the roster. I ran the numbers just to see, not that I think it's realistic.

Like I mentioned before, it’s definitely doable. Is it likely? That’s a different discussion.

Personally I would rather the Leafs go big game hunting when it comes to adding a center and I’d be willing to include Cowan + in a deal that saw Cozens coming our way.

A safe route would be to target someone like Krebs as you have mentioned for far less the cost.

 

[ULF_55]

To be fair, the rumour is from TheFourthPeriod's David Pagnotta who is hit or miss for this stuff. Skip to minute 4 below. Basically mentions the Leafs looking for a 2nd line center to push JT to LW if possible. Leafslatest just reposts interviews and Leaf related news.

Mirtle also said on Fan590 yesterday or the day before the Leafs have been looking for a center since camp.

Again, to be fair, we can say Leafs are looking for a #1 defender and #2 center.
We can say a dozen teams are looking for the same thing.
Whether Pagnotta or some random poster says it doesn't change anything.
There has been talk about a defender for years, and the center for a couple years, Especially from those who have said Tavares is a 3rd. line center.

I think biggest issue is Cap and cost of retention and the fact with retention you are probably getting a rental, maybe 2 year player, and emptying the cupboard which is not well stocked today.

However, let's say there is a UFA that is willing to do an in-season sign and trade?
Decide Tavares is not being re-signed, at any price.
marner is getting $13mm.
The traded for playing is getting Tavares $11mm.
In effect the team is going from Tavares to the new Guy beginning 2025-2026 season.
In this situation, Cowan, Minten and 1st. rounder(s) are perhaps justified?

Only wrinkle, can a team retain on current contract, without retaining on extension?

 

[seanlinden]

Look, I agree we don't need to spend assets on a winger at this time... but to call a 3rd line winger, at close to 0.5PPG a reclamation project is a bit strange to me. I think if you obtain him, it's for him to be a really good third line winger, at close to 0.5PPG, and nothing more... forget about where he was drafted. A reclamation project isn't a guy putting up close to 0.5PPG.....

While Kaako is probably better than most of the reclamation projects around here, his "value" is still propped up by a likely reasonably wide belief that he can / maybe should be a top 6, 55-60 point guy in the right situation.

 

[SprDaVE]

Again, to be fair, we can say Leafs are looking for a #1 defender and #2 center.
We can say a dozen teams are looking for the same thing.
Whether Pagnotta or some random poster says it doesn't change anything.
There has been talk about a defender for years, and the center for a couple years, Especially from those who have said Tavares is a 3rd. line center.

I think biggest issue is Cap and cost of retention and the fact with retention you are probably getting a rental, maybe 2 year player, and emptying the cupboard which is not well stocked today.

However, let's say there is a UFA that is willing to do an in-season sign and trade?
Decide Tavares is not being re-signed, at any price.
marner is getting $13mm.
The traded for playing is getting Tavares $11mm.
In effect the team is going from Tavares to the new Guy beginning 2025-2026 season.
In this situation, Cowan, Minten and 1st. rounder(s) are perhaps justified?

Only wrinkle, can a team retain on current contract, without retaining on extension?

There's a lot of common sense for this stuff for sure. I think Treliving even said a while back they wanted to strengthen the center position.

 

[Sypher04]

I know people will have a cow about trading out more assets come the deadline but the Atlantic feels wide open this year, our goaltending appears legit (hopefully that holds), our defense and PK looks much improved, we are just beginning what feels like a 4 year contention window, and you can’t keep turning over all your non-core players year over year. If you can go out and get a couple guys to augment the group with a bit of term assets will fly out the door and it’s not the wrong decision, in theory, if the targets are well selected.

A quality C and another D would be good thoughts. A winger if you can, but I’d say C, then D, then maybe a LW. I’d hope whoever is acquired at C or D brings skills that can also help us with different powerplay looks. We need to get the powerplay on track.

 

[seanlinden]

Cozens the player would be a nice addition. Cozens the $7.1 mil cap hit, is something we can't afford, unless Marner is going the other way, which wouldn't happen. Or if it happens during the offseason, and we've let Marner walk.

If they are interested in making trades, Krebs or McLeod are more in line with what we can afford.

To be fair, the Leafs can probably / almost certainly make Cozens work in the offseason, even if they resign Marner. It might mean you're not able to give Knies a long term deal, it might mean you need to get more aggresive with Tavares, it would almost certainly mean you've gotta trade them Cowan, but it could be done.

As for during the season, pretty much no way to do it unless you're doing a Mark Stone with somebody big going on LTIR for the remainder of the year.

 

[Sypher04]

I think if we want to maximize cap space during the next 4 years we probably should only sign Knies for a 3 year bridge

 

[Gabriel426]

I know people will have a cow about trading out more assets come the deadline but the Atlantic feels wide open this year, our goaltending appears legit (hopefully that holds), our defense and PK looks much improved, we are just beginning what feels like a 4 year contention window, and you can’t keep turning over all your non-core players year over year. If you can go out and get a couple guys to augment the group with a bit of term assets will fly out the door and it’s not the wrong decision, in theory, if the targets are well selected.

A quality C and another D would be good thoughts. A winger if you can, but I’d say C, then D, then maybe a LW. I’d hope whoever is acquired at C or D brings skills that can also help us with different powerplay looks. We need to get the powerplay on track.

It will take the a miracle to acquire someone who can bump someone off our PP1.

 

[Fogelhund]

To be fair, the Leafs can probably / almost certainly make Cozens work in the offseason, even if they resign Marner. It might mean you're not able to give Knies a long term deal, it might mean you need to get more aggresive with Tavares, it would almost certainly mean you've gotta trade them Cowan, but it could be done.

As for during the season, pretty much no way to do it unless you're doing a Mark Stone with somebody big going on LTIR for the remainder of the year.

Actually, I did the math, and we can fit in Cozens. Kampf, Robertson out. Reaves out, or sent down. Hak and Jarnkrok on LTIR or moved. 21 man roster.

 

[CincoHolio]

I get needing another C but if Tavares moves to wing, don't we still need another C? Also, is there an available 2C out there that will give you more than JT is now?

 

[Skullz]

Please go big game hunting if we trade for a Center. Enough of these one year rental’s with broken down veterans. Get someone young/youngish with term!

 

[Avilaj07]

To Toronto-
Cozens

To Buffalo-
Minten
Robertson
Kampf
Timmins
1st Round Pick

Knies-Matthews-Marner
Mcmann-Cozens-Nylander
Pacioretty-Tavares-Domi
Lorentz-Dewar-Steeves

McCabe-Tanev
Rielly-Myers
OEL-Benoit

Hakanpaa LTIR
Jarnkrok LTIR
Reaves-waivers

 

[Sypher04]

It will take the a miracle to acquire someone who can bump someone off our PP1.

I’m a believer that the powerplay should be split, so I think under that consideration it’d be easy enough to get someone who can help. But obviously unless they go to a split unit it’s a taller task