Trades & Free Agency Thread: 2024-2025 Season Edition
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I really like the idea Granlund for 3C. I think he would be a perfect fit for Nylander and give us 3 elite lines. Essentially 3 first lines. I also think Robertson could benefit a lot from playing with a playmaking C like Granlund.
3LW will be interesting between Robertson, Pacioretty or bringing in another player. They probably will address it internally with Robertson or Patches instead of bringing in a 3-4 m winger like Tanev. Especially if they spend money on a center and/or defensemen, which should both take priority.
I think Grebenkin is a really good fit for 4RW. He has 30 pounds and 3 inches on Dewar, and he has higher energy and offensive upside then Reaves. He's kind of like the middle version of Dewar and Reaves and an ideal power forward for 4th line with Lorentz-Kampf-Grebenkin being a good 4th line energy line with size.
With Robertson and Granlund:
Knies--Matthews--Domi
McMann-Tavares-Marner
Robertson-Granlund-Nylander
Lorentz-Kampf-Grebenkin
With Pacioretty and Granlund:
Knies--Matthews--Domi
Patches-Tavares-Marner
McMann-Granlund-Nylander
Lorentz-Kampf-Grebenkin
Hayton’s ice time is dropping in Utah, wonder if he’s someone to keep an eye on for a potential move.
I will start the bidding at Chicago's 3rd Rd Pick and our 2026 6 Rd Pick together.
Beggars cannot be choosers.
Edit: While we are it, also swap Kampf for Drury.
Jimmy Firecracker
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Granlund is on the Sharks, and I want nothing to do with acquiring players from that franchise. It never works out for us, always leads to disappointment.
Fogelhund
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The cost for us to obtain Granlund is likely going to be out of our price range, given we'd need retention, and Sharks can't do it... so we'd need a third party to do it. In addition, it's improbable we'd be able to extend him, so he'd be a rental, something we should probably stop doing.
He's a good player, but he likely doesn't fit. We really just need a good 3C, not a 2C, to be put in a 3C spot... that goes for Kadri as well.
Here is a list of some C's that have been talked about so far... I think there are others too.
Brock Nelson, Acciari, Laughton, Ryan Strome, Granlund, Kunin, Gourde, Sissons, Dickinson, Pageualt, Dvorak, Evans.... At least, that's who I see might be available. I've mentioned McBain, but I doubt he's available.
It's fairly challenging finding someone who is affordable, puts up some points, and isn't defensively weak....
He's a good player, but he likely doesn't fit. We really just need a good 3C, not a 2C, to be put in a 3C spot... that goes for Kadri as well.
Here is a list of some C's that have been talked about so far... I think there are others too.
Brock Nelson, Acciari, Laughton, Ryan Strome, Granlund, Kunin, Gourde, Sissons, Dickinson, Pageualt, Dvorak, Evans.... At least, that's who I see might be available. I've mentioned McBain, but I doubt he's available.
It's fairly challenging finding someone who is affordable, puts up some points, and isn't defensively weak....
thusk
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Granlund is a great player but personally i don't see the fit with the leafs. I don't think its the type of player leafs need..
Leafs don't create a lot off the rush and its more about battling, winning 1v1 battle, and drive the net. I don't think Granlund even with his skill set is the right guy. His price will be high and don't think he will give what leafs really need.
Personally i still think Gourde still the best option. This guy is a bulldog, he don't as have as much skill than Granlund but fighting for every inche and will help to bring back the puck on leafs side much more than Granlund. More you get back puck on your sticks with player like nylander, matthews, marner and more the chance to create someyhing offensively is high.
Leafs don't create a lot off the rush and its more about battling, winning 1v1 battle, and drive the net. I don't think Granlund even with his skill set is the right guy. His price will be high and don't think he will give what leafs really need.
Personally i still think Gourde still the best option. This guy is a bulldog, he don't as have as much skill than Granlund but fighting for every inche and will help to bring back the puck on leafs side much more than Granlund. More you get back puck on your sticks with player like nylander, matthews, marner and more the chance to create someyhing offensively is high.
I am not sure which players have a NMC, but I would target those players since they have some say where they want to go.
You don't want to get into open bidding wars.
If Giroux is available, I think you see if you can make that happen.
Yes, there needs to be retention but Giroux is going to pick his destination.
I would be all over Jiricek.
To Toronto: David Jiricek
To Columbus: Pontus Holmberg + Dennis Hildeby + 2026 1st Round Draft Pick
It’s not often a 20 year old top 10 pick becomes available. I think he’s definitely the worth the gamble.
Rielly - Tanev
McCabe - Jiricek
OEL - Timmins
OR
McCabe - Tanev
OEL - Jiricek
Rielly - Hakanpaa
To Toronto: David Jiricek
To Columbus: Pontus Holmberg + Dennis Hildeby + 2026 1st Round Draft Pick
It’s not often a 20 year old top 10 pick becomes available. I think he’s definitely the worth the gamble.
Rielly - Tanev
McCabe - Jiricek
OEL - Timmins
OR
McCabe - Tanev
OEL - Jiricek
Rielly - Hakanpaa
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If Jiricek can't even get in the Columbus team how do you think he makes our lineup?
He's a high draft pick who's development has stalled with entitlement issues
He's a guy teams that suck take a punt on, that isn't us and we don't have the assets to chase him and go after a good 3C
Columbus doesn’t have a good track at developing young talent. The only player in recent memory really living up to draft expectations is Werenski. Is that due to bad drafting or just mishandling players?
Could be either but we're not really in a position to develop him properly and he's going to cost a fair bit to aquire
I just don't see the fit, he'd have been a guy you go hard after when our core was just breaking into the league but we're in win now mode and he isn't a win now piece
Fair however 20 year old RHD with his potential don’t come on the market very often and when they do, it’s something every team should look into IMO.
Sillinger would be a fantastic addition/target as well and really fit our needs.
When healthy, a top 9 looking like this is probably one of the best in the league.
Knies - Matthews - Domi
McMann - Tavares - Marner
Pacioretty - Sillinger - Nylander
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Avilaj07
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With the Leafs having some pretty good goaltending depth now with all of Woll,Stolarz, Hildeby, and Akhtyamov. I wonder if we could use some of that depth and look at Colorado who is in need of some goaltending asap.
To Toronto-
Ross Colton
To Colorado-
Hildeby
Robertson
Kampf
To Toronto-
Ross Colton
To Colorado-
Hildeby
Robertson
Kampf
SprDaVE
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It would be really weird for the Preds to waive Fabbro only to pick up Jiricek. Talk about a waste of assets.
I could see Philly being pretty interested. They need more upside on their defense. Drysdale has really been having a hard time taking the next step. Utah and Chicago should also be all over him.
I could see Philly being pretty interested. They need more upside on their defense. Drysdale has really been having a hard time taking the next step. Utah and Chicago should also be all over him.
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HomelessPepper
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We better not be spending a 1st round pick on rentals. Our first should only go for a legit solution to 2C/3C (for my money, I'd be targeting 2C).
And we also better not be pissing away our goaltending depth either. I'd rather hold and run 3 goalies on the roster than trade either of Hildeby or AA.
And we also better not be pissing away our goaltending depth either. I'd rather hold and run 3 goalies on the roster than trade either of Hildeby or AA.
BertCorbeau
F*ck cancer - RIP Fugu and Buffaloed
I still think he's a guy you heavily investigate and pursue to see how feasible it is. Regardless of the team's situation, if you can sensibly add a former 6th OA pick two years from his draft year it could be a worthwhile gamble. Especially since the blue line is largely 30+
Personally I don't think the Leafs would part with Columbus would want .. but it's feasible.
The other aspect is the fit - not just on the roster itself but the optics. You have a Leafs teams playing really well through injuries, gelling nicely. How can you fit Jiricek in? There blue line has depth:
Rielly-Tanev
OEL-McCabe
Benoit-Timmins
Hakanpaa-Myers
The only avenue I see is in sheltered bottom pairing minutes (he needs regular playing time but in lower leverage situations at the NHL level to start with) .. who do you take out and rotate? Maybe it's sensible to move Timmins in another deal and put Jiricek there?
It's tough to have a hard pass on, but it is tricky to make it work with the Leafs even if they could afford the price.
Someone I can see being on Treliving’s radar is Dickinson, especially if Chicago is willing to retain some salary. He would fit perfectly in Berube’s system IMO.
BertCorbeau
F*ck cancer - RIP Fugu and Buffaloed
Gourde probably has a high ask .. he's well regarded in Seattle. My only concern with him is age as he's entering his mid 30's
Honestly the more I think about it, the more I like the idea of Dickinson. Seems like a seamless fit into our lineup given this team’s needs. Cherry on top is that he’s from the GTA.
We aremt losing, so there is no need to panic or overpay. We need a 3C but at the right cost. Why have the world's best scouting team but no picks ? Minten looks good and is cheap.
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