Trades & Free Agency Thread: 2024-2025 Season Edition

[Americanadian]

So who are you looking at from Pittsburgh now that Dubas has gone open season?

Drew O’Connor is a name for me.

Eller is another for a depth centre upgrade

Rakell.

Secondary scoring has been hard to come by. I don’t know how much value he has at 5M but assuming Dubas would take Jarnkrok at 2.1M I can see a swap of Rakell for Janrkrok with a minor add making sense.

 

[Fogelhund]

So who are you looking at from Pittsburgh now that Dubas has gone open season?

Drew O’Connor is a name for me.

Eller is another for a depth centre upgrade

Eller at 50% would be worthwhile.

 

[4thline]

So who are you looking at from Pittsburgh now that Dubas has gone open season?

Drew O’Connor is a name for me.

Eller is another for a depth centre upgrade

Kampf and an asset for a 50% retained Acciari.

Save some cap, cement the playoff 4th lines identity , add a right shot to the forward group/ right shot C to the pk roster

Lorentz-Dewar-Acciari = fan and coach favourite line

 

[1specter]

Rakell.

Secondary scoring has been hard to come by. I don’t know how much value he has at 5M but assuming Dubas would take Jarnkrok at 2.1M I can see a swap of Rakell for Janrkrok with a minor add making sense.

Rakell would be a great add. He has also played C in the past but not sure when the last time would've been

 

[Fogelhund]

Rakell would be a nice player to add, but I just don't see how we can afford it, for another winger. It would be a nice want, but not a need as much... and with limited cap, who would we move out to make room for him? With this year, plus three more years as well... that would be tough to take on, and I just can't see retention for three more years after this.

I mean, if you could pull it off... Eller and Rakell both at 50% would be great... that's $3.725 in cap hit. It's almost as if you've got to move Kampf, Reaves and Robertson to pull this off, with Eller, Rakell and Acciari coming back at 50% each... which I just don't see happening. It would be one heck of a lineup though.

 

[CincoHolio]

Kampf and an asset for a 50% retained Acciari.

Save some cap, cement the playoff 4th lines identity , add a right shot to the forward group/ right shot C to the pk roster

Lorentz-Dewar-Acciari = fan and coach favourite line

I'd rather have Kampf than Acciari. I think that trade makes the forth line worse. JMHO


Man, Kampf gets a whole lot of heat around here for a 4th line player who brings the intangibles. I'm really not sure what people are expecting out of that line/position/contract.

 

[CincoHolio]

I don't think Kampf is going anywhere. He's quite an important player for us.

We currently sit at 2nd in team FO % and Kampf is a big part of that. People look at Kampf and think he doesn't provide anything because he's not putting up offensive stats --- for a 4th line player no less.

 

[Puckstuff]

Does Kampf + 1st round pick get it done for Granlund?

I’m sure many people will reject this but we may need to give up Easton Cowan or Fraser Minten

 

[SprDaVE]

So who are you looking at from Pittsburgh now that Dubas has gone open season?

Drew O’Connor is a name for me.

Eller is another for a depth centre upgrade

O'Connor would be really nice. Cheap and efficient. Reminds me a bit of McMann. If the Leafs still plan on trading Robertson one way or another, he'd be a very good target to add size, speed and another PKer. I think they'll keep him though.

Eller would be ok too but he's very Plekanec level of efficient at his age. Good on faceoffs, solid defensively, offensively very meh, not very physical.

 

[SprDaVE]

Does Kampf + 1st round pick get it done for Granlund?

I’m sure many people will reject this but we may need to give up Easton Cowan or Fraser Minten

I think they can find a solid center without having to give up a 1st or a Cowan level prospect. The 2nd might be in play but not sure they need to go all out.

If the center is locked up and very good, then maybe you start to give up a top prospect in the process. Granlund is older and a pending UFA... not sure he'd be the guy to give it all up for.

 

[SprDaVE]

We currently sit at 2nd in team FO % and Kampf is a big part of that. People look at Kampf and think he doesn't provide anything because he's not putting up offensive stats --- for a 4th line player no less.

The problem isn't Kampf, it's his cap hit. He's solid on draws, he's good on the PK but then he's kind of a ghost 5 on 5. He's not physical or really able to play higher in the lineup. He's ok and probably should stick around for the season but he's someone they should dump and replace with a cheaper alternative.

 

[4thline]

I'd rather have Kampf than Acciari. I think that trade makes the forth line worse. JMHO


Man, Kampf gets a whole lot of heat around here for a 4th line player who brings the intangibles. I'm really not sure what people are expecting out of that line/position/contract.

Not heat from me, I've defended him and his contract before. I'm under no illusions that he's some replacement level scrub that we can sub any random body in and come out ahead- but I'm not proposing that.
In a vacuum I'd be 6-5 in favour of Acciari- (very similar players)but with Lorentz/Dewar in the house as L shot C/LW's, and the 4thline being more sheltered, give me the R shot with slightly more physicality and the 1.4 million in cap savings.

All that being said- Jarncrok might be the better fit to move, but it bumps Lorentz out of the lineup
(Dewar-Kampf-Acciari)

 

[Puckstuff]

I think they can find a solid center without having to give up a 1st or a Cowan level prospect. The 2nd might be in play but not sure they need to go all out.

If the center is locked up and very good, then maybe you start to give up a top prospect in the process. Granlund is older and a pending UFA... not sure he'd be the guy to give it all up for.

Granlund is a point per game center. He's also likely available since San Jose isn't competing this year. Name someone better then Granlund that we could realistically get. He's also a playmaker which helps as well since Matthews and Tavares are both shoot first centers.

Also we need to pay to dump Kampf and/or Jarnkrok.

 

[SprDaVE]

Granlund is a point per game center. He's also likely available since San Jose isn't competing this year. Name someone better then Granlund that we could realistically get. He's also a playmaker which helps as well since Matthews and Tavares are both shoot first centers.

Also we need to pay to dump Kampf and/or Jarnkrok.

He's been pretty good on a bad team, I don't disagree. But you're giving up a lot for someone turning 33 by the time you acquire him. He'd be playing on the 3rd line realistically, maybe 2nd line and likely would not play with Matthews or JT -- but mainly players like Pacioretty, Robertson (if around), Jarnkrok, McMann and Domi.

I'm not sure what another realistic target would be but if he's the only center available and they want Cowan or Minten to make it happen, I probably just don't bother. It's too much investment for an older pending UFA. I'm sure there are options that could do well for a 2nd round pick as the main asset. If Granlund was 3-5 years younger and locked up, then I could see a much better need to go after him.

 

[Puckstuff]

He's been pretty good on a bad team, I don't disagree. But you're giving up a lot for someone turning 33 by the time you acquire him. He'd be playing on the 3rd line realistically, maybe 2nd line and likely would not play with Matthews or JT -- but mainly players like Pacioretty, Robertson (if around), Jankrok, McMann and Domi.

I'm not sure what another realistic target would be but if he's the only center available and they want Cowan or Minten to make it happen, I probably just don't bother. If Granlund was 3-5 years younger and locked up, then I could see a much better need to go after him.

Play him with Nylander

Knies-Matthews-Domi
McMann-Granlund-Nylander
Patches-Tavares-Marner

The fact Tavares-Marner is actually the 3rd best line is utter insanity. It's essentially 3 first lines.

I'd personally go for it this year and try to re-sign him to a reasonable short term deal in the off-season.

 

[CincoHolio]

Not heat from me, I've defended him and his contract before. I'm under no illusions that he's some replacement level scrub that we can sub any random body in and come out ahead- but I'm not proposing that.
In a vacuum I'd be 6-5 in favour of Acciari- (very similar players)but with Lorentz/Dewar in the house as L shot C/LW's, and the 4thline being more sheltered, give me the R shot with slightly more physicality and the 1.4 million in cap savings.

All that being said- Jarncrok might be the better fit to move, but it bumps Lorentz out of the lineup
(Dewar-Kampf-Acciari)

Fair enough. I actually like Dewar probably more than most on here. I liked what I saw in the minutes he played.

 

[SprDaVE]

Play him with Nylander

Knies-Matthews-Domi
McMann-Granlund-Nylander
Patches-Tavares-Marner

The fact Tavares-Marner is actually the 3rd best line is utter insanity. It's essentially 3 first lines.

I'd personally go for it this year and try to re-sign him to a reasonable short term deal in the off-season.

I'm not against it but I'm still hesitant he's the right fit.

 

[arso40]

I'm not against it but I'm still hesitant he's the right fit.

Think he’s an ideal fit for Willy they play a similar style of hoccey imo

 

[Visnovsky]

I've seen a couple hundred games worth of Granlund, he'd be a luxury piece for us, more than the absolute need.

I love him to death, he brought the championship to my local team the last time he was back here in Finland.

His skating is on par with Tavares', an insanely capable playmaker, does not shine when put into a slot of being a secondary piece of the big puzzle - he needs to be one of the big guns. His shot resembles that of Domi's, not something we want more of.

Defensively he is very good, but limited due to stature and his skating abilities. Not the best faceoff man, which is really something that goes a long way as an ability during springtime - something we want more of.

 

[arso40]

I've seen a couple hundred games worth of Granlund, he'd be a luxury piece for us, more than the absolute need.

I love him to death, he brought the championship to my local team the last time he was back here in Finland.

His skating is on par with Tavares', an insanely capable playmaker, does not shine when put into a slot of being a secondary piece of the big puzzle - he needs to be one of the big guns. His shot resembles that of Domi's, not something we want more of.

Defensively he is very good, but limited due to stature and his skating abilities. Not the best faceoff man, which is really something that goes a long way as an ability during springtime - something we want more of.

You sure his skating is on par with Tavares ?

 

[Visnovsky]

You sure his skating is on par with Tavares ?

He might be a bit worse even, it has never been his strong suit. Tavares seems to have found a new gear this season.

If a centre is what we are after, someone like Adam Lowry is what we need. Strong in the faceoffs, physical, big body, brilliant defensive acumen and someone who can be carried a bit offensively by Nylander.

 

[SprDaVE]

Think he’s an ideal fit for Willy they play a similar style of hoccey imo

The fit in terms of being an upgrade is obviously there, but the fit for the assets it would take, at his age and being a pending UFA, I think that's where my interest wonders off. Bleeding a top prospect like Cowan or an interesting one in Minten would hurt a lot as early as next season if that's what it takes.

 

[arso40]

He might be a bit worse even, it has never been his strong suit. Tavares seems to have found a new gear this season.

If a centre is what we are after, someone like Adam Lowry is what we need. Strong in the faceoffs, physical, big body, brilliant defensive acumen and someone who can be carried a bit offensively by Nylander.

Adam Lowry he’s a shutdown Center he’d be better playing with someone like Mitch that gets the most out of his linemates and his a stalwart defender

 

[WTFMAN99]

Eller at 50% would be worthwhile.

Eller and Pettersson (plus extend him)

Eller, Pettersson (50% retained - they only have 1 retention slot) for Jarnkrok, 2nd FLA, Robertson and Niemela

 

[4thline]

IMO with his playmaking acumen and defensive ability but lack of plus skating and faceoffs Granlund is someone you look at bringing in as a Marner (ultra) light to build two very similar 1A/1B lines that can both be trusted defensively

Knies-Matthews-Granlund
McMann-JT-Marner

then follow that up with a sheltered Offensive line that gives the other team a matchup nightmare
Pacioretty-Domi-Nylander

with your pk guys bringing energy and physicality to fill a few minutes
Lorentz-Kampf-Dewar