Welp, the Liljegren to Utah dream is now dead
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SprDaVE
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He's a lefty, they could still want a RHD upgrade but I agree that it's a lot less likely now.
They’re down 2 top 4 dmen I don’t think that closes the door on anything though i would like it to
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I have to think Brad would've taken a 3rd for Liljegren at this point.
Why would you prefer Maatta to him? He plays the wrong side, older, worse, no upside. Is the second year really that much of a dealbreaker?
Why would you prefer Maatta to him? He plays the wrong side, older, worse, no upside. Is the second year really that much of a dealbreaker?
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Maybe Lily to SJ for Benning.
Lily gets a chance. SJ are desperate for NHL d men. Benning can be depth or can be almost fully buried with the Marlies.
Lily gets a chance. SJ are desperate for NHL d men. Benning can be depth or can be almost fully buried with the Marlies.
Would he? I'm not sure.
Everything we've seen from Liljegren when he's played, this guy screams high quality top 4 defenceman if he can get his game together... while at this point he's probably worth less than a 3rd to us, there may be a sense of "I have to get reasonable value out of this asset".
As others have mentioned though... they're going to be missing Durzi and Marino for months. While the need is probably less urgent now, they could still make another addition.
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I would need a pick or something at least to make this remotely palatable. Benning is below average, but being cheap could be ok for depth.
Rare Jewel
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Perhaps he actually values him and asked for something more expensive than a third from Utah.
Once Dewar, Jarnkrok, Hakanpaa are healthy:
Liljegren + pick for Murphy
Kampf/Timmins out either in that deal or somewhere else
Demote Holmberg
Knies - Matthews - Marner
Pacioretty/Jarnkrok - Tavares - Nylander
McMann - Domi - Robertson
Lorentz - Dewar - Jarnkrok/Reaves
Rielly - OEL
McCabe - Tanev
Murphy/Benoit/Hakanpaa rotation
Keep Rielly and OEL focused on 5v5 and PP minutes.
Robertson + pick for Vatrano or B Tanev retained at deadline if Robbie doesn’t start figuring it out.
Liljegren + pick for Murphy
Kampf/Timmins out either in that deal or somewhere else
Demote Holmberg
Knies - Matthews - Marner
Pacioretty/Jarnkrok - Tavares - Nylander
McMann - Domi - Robertson
Lorentz - Dewar - Jarnkrok/Reaves
Rielly - OEL
McCabe - Tanev
Murphy/Benoit/Hakanpaa rotation
Keep Rielly and OEL focused on 5v5 and PP minutes.
Robertson + pick for Vatrano or B Tanev retained at deadline if Robbie doesn’t start figuring it out.
I sure hope not.
I hope this is a sign they value him better.
I’m not following the trade market closely, but in Utah’s case, they have tons of stuff …and Maatta isn’t a world beater, so I’d think there could still be a fit.
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I like your optimism but I think at this point Tre might have to be looking to shed his salary and not have to pay to do it.
Rightly or wrongly for how some here view his potential still.
My own thoughts are he is a decent 2/3rd pair regular season dman that isn’t built for playoff success.
Just surprising the disconnect either between Tre and Berube on his ability or between Tre and Lily’s value league wide. Otherwise you don’t sign that deal.
Agreed Benning is injury filler depth at best but solves the cap dilemma.
OEL is our best defenseman right now. I'd let him rip as the main piece and see if he can blossom into a Petro.
Makes it difficult to pair up Rielly with Hak though as Benny needs to stay on the third pairing.
Insider David Pagnotta Reveals Maple Leafs GM Brad Treliving Is Listening To Trade Offers For Two Players
GM of the Leafs Brad Treliving has been taking calls for two of the team's players, being Nick Robertson and Calle Jarnkrok. With the Toronto Maple Leafs through the first 10 games of the season, they've gotten off to a 5-4-1 record, a start that hasn't gone the way fans had hoped it would.
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The Leafs are, however, getting to that juncture of the season where it's going to be a very critical period, most notably from the aspect of dealing with their salary cap. In order for them to fit someone in, someone else might need to go. According to NHL insider David Pagnotta, the Leafs have been getting calls for Calle Jarnkrok and Nick Robertson. Both of these players might just get traded at any time now, as teams reportedly have shown interest, given the Leafs' cap tightness.
Leafs Morning Take podcast hosts Nick Alberga and Jay Rosehill had Pagnotta on for a recent episode to go over the Leafs' roster situation. They discussed at great length the impending return of Jarnkrok from injury, insinuating the forward with a lot of versatility could be on his way out to Los Angeles. Pagnotta did note that Robertson does have availability and is someone who would be somewhat easy to move with the interest in the young player.
Pagnotta added that while dealing Jarnkrok might look attractive once he's back, his recent injury and $2.1 million cap hit could complicate things. Versatility is one of the real driving factors of Jarnkrok's value but also something that could make other teams queasier, given the health issues he's presented. On Robertson, if he is going to attract any interest around the league, the winger still has a ways to go as, outside of a great preseason, he hasn't yet translated into what many had hoped during the regular season to this point; there is still reason to believe he could attract the attention of some teams trying to find an upside.
With the Leafs near their cap ceiling and Jani Hakanpaa due back soon, a roster move seems imminent . Whether they trade Calle Jarnkrok, Nick Robertson, or perhaps someone like Timothy Liljegren in the days to come remains to be seen. And whatever happens now will continue being skillfully juggled around cap relief along with keeping the lineup reasonably competitive throughout the year.
Wait until you have that kings fan post about how Fiala is the same level of Marner but he doesn’t play in a good system!
