Trades & Free Agency Thread: 2024-2025 Season Edition

Does O’Rielly make the Leafs better?

  • Yes

    Votes: 36 57.1%
  • No

    Votes: 24 38.1%
  • Undecided

    Votes: 3 4.8%

  • Total voters
    63
  • Poll closed .

SprDaVE

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Isn’t he an assistant GM?

Unless his detail is the marlies or something I would think that’s a conflict
Is there not a conflict with father/son gm/player?

Assistant TO THE... GM. (Technically he's a special advisor to the GM.)

There are no official rules/conflicts for this stuff. Maybe unofficially or whatever but there are no rules where a player can't play for an organisation where they have family in management.

Skyler Brind'Amour is part of the Hurricanes org and his dad is the head coach. He hasn't played an NHL game yet but did play in pre-season.
 
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Legion34

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Assistant TO THE... GM. (Technically he's a special advisor to the GM.)

There are no official rules/conflicts for this stuff. Maybe unofficially or whatever but there are no rules where a player can't play for an organisation where they have family in management.

Skyler Brind'Amour is part of the Hurricans org and his dad is the head coach. He hasn't played an NHL game yet but did play in pre-season.

Wow he got costanza’d

the assistant to the travel secretary
 

SprDaVE

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He's a pretty good player, and it's odd that he's sitting.

However, I'm not sure of the fit. There are already too many LDs.

When Hakanpaa is healthy, the Leafs have 5 RHD and 4 LHD on the NHL roster. It's nice to finally have RHD depth and I don't disagree that RHD depth needs to be valued. McCabe and OEL have shown to be versatile with playing good RD minutes. Hypothetically if they make a Liljegren for Valimaki swap the depth becomes:

LHD - RHD
Rielly - Tanev
OEL - Timmins
McCabe - Hakanpaa
Benoit - Myers
Valimaki
 

OVO16

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So one more game remaining before Dewar and Hakanpaa gets activated?

Is there a tarde coming this week we think
 

Rare Jewel

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When Hakanpaa is healthy, the Leafs have 5 RHD and 4 LHD on the NHL roster. It's nice to finally have RHD depth and I don't disagree that RHD depth needs to be valued. McCabe and OEL have shown to be versatile with playing good RD minutes. Hypothetically if they make a Liljegren for Valimaki swap the depth becomes:

LHD - RHD
Rielly - Tanev
OEL - Timmins
McCabe - Hakanpaa
Benoit - Myers
Valimaki
I don't like it, TBH. Rather, just keep Liljegren and play him.

I know this is not popular with some, particularly the coaching staff, but Vallimaki is not an upgrade on him and I still think he's the best of the non-vet group.
 
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Dreakmur

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Isn’t he an assistant GM?

Unless his detail is the marlies or something I would think that’s a conflict

Yes he is… but what’s the real problem? That he’ll advocate for his son… ok, he might, but he doesn’t make the decisions. Even if he did, there’s always similar conflicts in those kinds of decisions. That one is less dangerous because it’s more apparent than others.
 
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SprDaVE

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I'll be surprised if he plays; the guy was signed for the LTIR space.

I don't get how you sign an injured D two years in a row.

He doesn't create more cap space by being on LTIR so it's really useless to do this. All it does is allows you to go over the cap for his total cap... If anything it's a lot worse to be in LTIR because you don't accrue cap space.

They signed him to be a player this season. Instead of trading for Lyubushkin for the 3rd time, or someone of his ilk, they signed one.
 
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Rare Jewel

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If anything it's a lot worse to be in LTIR because you don't accrue cap space.
Don't you accrue cap space by being on LTIR?

They signed him to be a player this season. Instead of trading for Lyubushkin for the 3rd time, or someone of his ilk, they signed one.
I suppose, but it just looks bad that others avoided him like the plague, as well as coming after the Klingberg issue from last season.
 

SprDaVE

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Don't you accrue cap space by being on LTIR?


I suppose, but it just looks bad that others avoided him like the plague, as well as coming after the Klingberg issue from last season.

Nope, you don't. A big reason the Leafs constantly have to get other teams to double retain and pay extra picks is because they never accrue cap space. I was hoping the Leafs would make it a priority to clear off contracts instead of being a penny away from being cap compliant... but nope...

It does and it's why he signed for so cheap on a 1 year deal. Leafs are taking a risk he's capable of being a good player.
 
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Rare Jewel

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Nope, you don't. A big reason the Leafs constantly have to get other teams to double retain and pay extra picks is because they never accrue cap space. I was hoping the Leafs would make it a priority to clear off contracts instead of being a penny away from being cap compliant... but nope...
Okay, but if they keep his 1.4 on LTIR and presumably put him on LTIR as near to the cap as possible, would they still have that pool (or the difference) to exceed the cap?
 

SprDaVE

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Okay, so, that space is potentially worth more than playing him at this point because who knows what he's going to play like.

Anyway, that was the main idea of the post.

Then they wouldn't and shouldn't have signed him if he wasn't going to be part of the plan. It doesn't help the cap or the roster by signing him to not play.
 

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The conflict is clear…. Team best interest vs son best interest. If they don’t align, which best interest is the priority?

That being said, these kinds of things occur in every decision.

Berube isn't going to listen to Assistant to the GM when it comes to line-ups.

He'd be treated fairly like most of their players.

Doan wouldn't step out of his lane or he'd be gone.
 
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