Trades & Free Agency Thread: 2024-2025 - Deadline-ageddon

[Roo]

So much for trading for Parayko

He was never on the block

Is Luke Schenn really that much better than Phillipe Myers? Or if at all? Luke has slowed down significantly due to age.

Rather get an upgrade overall who's also physical like a Connor Murphy

I watched a NSH game the other day and he looks VERY slow. We should move on.

f*** no to any trade involving Knies.

if we think Rantanen would sign with us we can sign him July 1st

 

[hamzarocks]

Hagel makes half of what Rantanen is going to. I like Rantanen but that 12.5+ with a full NMC is a game of Russian roulette.

rantanen at 12.5M
Marner at 12.5M
Matthews at 13.25M
Nylander at 11.5M

Pretty much same cap total as this year with JT. Only issue becomes 3 Ws and 1 C however the Rantanen upgrade over JT cant be stated enough.

Would have to play Rantanen as 2C (he played C a few years ago for 15-20 games for the Avs and produced very well, when Mack and other C were injured)

A player like Rantanen will rarely, if ever be on the market. If knies + 1st got him at 12.5M x 8 Id do that.

Bring in Cowan + Minten into bottom 6 next year to save money and keep McMann, Domi, Robertson, Dewar to round out bottom 6.

Would need to obtain 2 more players for the top 6 though which likely is tough

 

[Suntouchable13]

rantanen at 12.5M
Marner at 12.5M
Matthews at 13.25M
Nylander at 11.5M

Pretty much same cap total as this year with JT. Only issue becomes 3 Ws and 1 C however the Rantanen upgrade over JT cant be stated enough.

Would have to play Rantanen as 2C (he played C a few years ago for 15-20 games for the Avs and produced very well, when Mack and other C were injured)

A player like Rantanen will rarely, if ever be on the market. If knies + 1st got him at 12.5M x 8 Id do that.

Bring in Cowan + Minten into bottom 6 next year to save money and keep McMann, Domi, Robertson, Dewar to round out bottom 6.

Would need to obtain 2 more players for the top 6 though which likely is tough

That's too much money. You don't need that much cap tied up in 4 forwards.

 

[thewave]

That's too much money. You don't need that much cap tied up in 4 forwards.

3 wingers!!! Lol

 

[stats1]

If he'd sign here now (extend) then he'd sign here in the summer. IMO we're already losing Marner - may as well just roll the dice on UFA Rants.

Ok so what would you do? Trade a bunch of futures for Laughton?

 

[Martin Skoula]

rantanen at 12.5M
Marner at 12.5M
Matthews at 13.25M
Nylander at 11.5M

Pretty much same cap total as this year with JT. Only issue becomes 3 Ws and 1 C however the Rantanen upgrade over JT cant be stated enough.

Would have to play Rantanen as 2C (he played C a few years ago for 15-20 games for the Avs and produced very well, when Mack and other C were injured)

A player like Rantanen will rarely, if ever be on the market. If knies + 1st got him at 12.5M x 8 Id do that.

Bring in Cowan + Minten into bottom 6 next year to save money and keep McMann, Domi, Robertson, Dewar to round out bottom 6.

Would need to obtain 2 more players for the top 6 though which likely is tough

Yeah I don’t like the C problem, we already don’t have a 3C and our 1C has chronic injuries. I’m on board with Knies-Matthews-Rantanen to change our look up front and either Tavares or Bennet as 2C with Nylander + some spare cash to fix the 3rd line but there’s no world where I keep Rantanen and Marner.

 

[Ianturnedbull]

Ok Reaves is gone. Now give me freaking trades!!!

 

[Rare Jewel]

rantanen at 12.5M
Marner at 12.5M
Matthews at 13.25M
Nylander at 11.5M

Pretty much same cap total as this year with JT. Only issue becomes 3 Ws and 1 C however the Rantanen upgrade over JT cant be stated enough.

Would have to play Rantanen as 2C (he played C a few years ago for 15-20 games for the Avs and produced very well, when Mack and other C were injured)

A player like Rantanen will rarely, if ever be on the market. If knies + 1st got him at 12.5M x 8 Id do that.

Bring in Cowan + Minten into bottom 6 next year to save money and keep McMann, Domi, Robertson, Dewar to round out bottom 6.

Would need to obtain 2 more players for the top 6 though which likely is tough

I like the idea of adding Rantanen, but have we not learned by now you can't put that much money into four guys, especially if they're all forwards?

 

[ITM]

There will never be a time in the NHL knies will be a better or more valuable player than Mikko Rantanen

If knies+ gets you extended Rantanen you do that 10 times out of 10

I still wish we had dealt Knies back in 2022 and gotten Hagel whose a superstar version of whatever Knies ceiling is likely to be.

People here are crazy overrating Knies if hes off the table for an extended rantanen.

Rental rantanen sure no point making that move.

The trade wont ever happen as Rantanen likely has little interest in Toronto long term

I don't; How can we justify a core 5? Which two - to a certainty - are we moving out and what assets are returning for them that mirror Knies?

Knies is a perfect example of what we need; Cost-controlled, heart and soul player, big, physical winger who plugs in everywhere up and down the lineup, irrespective of the Core 3 forward he plays with.

Moreover, if chemistry means anything, the fact Rantanen isn't gelling in Carolina of all places, should be terrifying to GMs. It would be to me. And in our pressure-filled market with a wilting captain and two of the Core 4 pieces up for renewal, this reads like a situation we should NOT be involved in.

Here's a hypothetical: If you could have Rantanen for Knies or Tuch for Cowan who would you take? I would prefer that same energy going after Alex Tuch and using our primary assets to get there, and by there, I mean $4.5M x 2 for another Knies-type player. Cowan would be gone in a blink if I was GM and Tuch was available.

And what Tanev's absence has demonstrated is that what we need are defenseman who can play defense. They're not cheap, but Seeler, Oleksiak, Soucy types are not going to cost us Cowan. Then we're left with a 3C. I might err towards Laughton (Or Cates?) if priced under Minten or with Minten if RR accompanies; But if Pius Suter is available, heck, if Kevin Stenlund is available, I'd plug our hole and by committee, use what we got to make as sure as we could to start with the puck as often as possible.

Sir Alex Ferguson would move star after star if they but modestly transgressed against the club's architecture. Big names. And as an organization, we need to get to that mindset quick and the idea of moving Knies to complete the new Muskoka 5 just boils my blood.

 

[dubplatepressure]

Ok so what would you do? Trade a bunch of futures for Laughton?

Geekie + Carlo are a great fit - much better than Laughton + Risto IMO.

 

[Lightsol]

That's too much money. You don't need that much cap tied up in 4 forwards.

Vs. letting two of our current big 4 walk and signing a couple more Max Domis?

 

[Jacquestrapless]

 

[SprDaVE]

Ok so what would you do? Trade a bunch of futures for Laughton?

He's signed into next season, plays a capable forechecking 2-way game and apparently is dying to play for the Leafs. I get that he's not a star and paying futures for the non sexy option doesn't feel great but he'll be around for a couple runs and I think he can do well.

He's been on the Flyers his whole career and in recent years they've been utter trash. I think moving to a much better team will do him good.

 

[Advanced stats]

I'd be delighted if we ended up with

Minten for Laughton

And

2nd and Robertson for Connor Murphy.


Both guys couple hang around long term.

 

[dubplatepressure]

I'd be delighted if we ended up with

Minten for Laughton

And

2nd and Robertson for Connor Murphy.


Both guys couple hang around long term.

Minten for Laughton makes me want to vomit.

 

[LeafSteel]

Reminder that Brazeau was a Leaf, but Dubas felt he had no value and let to go for nothing.

Absolutely hate the thought of losing Knies for Rants.

Get RHD and 3C now. Go big game hunting for Rants, Bennett, Ekblad, all those guys in UFA.

Matthews isn’t Matthews and we aren’t winning with pitiful RHD depth that sea Myers any/or Timmins playing, along with either OEL and/or McCabe playing the wrong side.

Seriously, address our needs, spare our future, and stop chasing sexy names that aren’t part of the long term fix and leaves us weaker in positions that we are already weak at:

Prospects
Centre
RHD

Dammit

 

[Rare Jewel]

Just say it's a trade.

 

[thewave]

Yeah I don’t like the C problem, we already don’t have a 3C and our 1C has chronic injuries. I’m on board with Knies-Matthews-Rantanen to change our look up front and either Tavares or Bennet as 2C with Nylander + some spare cash to fix the 3rd line but there’s no world where I keep Rantanen and Marner.

We can just have all the wingers. Who needs a C with so many super elite wingers. Lol

 

[The Podium]

Reminder that Brazeau was a Leaf, but Dubas felt he had no value and let to go for nothing.

Absolutely hate the thought of losing Knies for Rants.

Get RHD and 3C now. Go big game hunting for Rants, Bennett, Ekblad, all those guys in UFA.

Matthews isn’t Matthews and we aren’t winning with pitiful RHD depth that sea Myers any/or Timmins playing, along with either OEL and/or McCabe playing the wrong side.

Seriously, address our needs, spare our future, and stop chasing sexy names that aren’t part of the long term fix and leaves us weaker in positions that we are already weak at:

Prospects
Centre
RHD

Dammit

Dubas was also the one to sign him originally and it only took him 160 additional games in the AHL after being dealt to become an NHLer

 

[Schenn]

Reminder that Brazeau was a Leaf, but Dubas felt he had no value and let to go for nothing.

I may be misremembering but I'm pretty sure the Leafs lost Brazeau due to covid. They just had no where to play him and he was a FA so went a found somewhere that had room. I think under normal circumstances they would have kept him in the organization.

 

[DarkKnight]

Dubas was also the one to sign him originally and it only took him 160 additional games in the AHL after being dealt to become an NHLer

Has anyone been able to explain that Pitt/Nashville deal yesterday, for the life of me I don’t get it for either side?

 

[hamzarocks]

I don't; How can we justify a core 5? Which two - to a certainty - are we moving out and what assets are returning for them that mirror Knies?

Knies is a perfect example of what we need; Cost-controlled, heart and soul player, big, physical winger who plugs in everywhere up and down the lineup, irrespective of the Core 3 forward he plays with.

Moreover, if chemistry means anything, the fact Rantanen isn't gelling in Carolina of all places, should be terrifying to GMs. It would be to me. And in our pressure-filled market with a wilting captain and two of the Core 4 pieces up for renewal, this reads like a situation we should NOT be involved in.

Here's a hypothetical: If you could have Rantanen for Knies or Tuch for Cowan who would you take? I would prefer that same energy going after Alex Tuch and using our primary assets to get there, and by there, I mean $4.5M x 2 for another Knies-type player. Cowan would be gone in a blink if I was GM and Tuch was available.

And what Tanev's absence has demonstrated is that what we need are defenseman who can play defense. They're not cheap, but Seeler, Oleksiak, Soucy types are not going to cost us Cowan. Then we're left with a 3C. I might err towards Laughton (Or Cates?) if priced under Minten or with Minten if RR accompanies; But if Pius Suter is available, heck, if Kevin Stenlund is available, I'd plug our hole and by committee, use what we got to make as sure as we could to start with the puck as often as possible.

Sir Alex Ferguson would move star after star if they but modestly transgressed against the club's architecture. Big names. And as an organization, we need to get to that mindset quick and the idea of moving Knies to complete the new Muskoka 5 just boils my blood.

If we could have Knies for Rantanen and Cowan for tuch both leafs assets would be out the door

Tuch is Knies ceiling in the moment. Hes a PWF style 65-75 pt guy. If it only cost Cowan then bye to Cowan

Id still want to do Rantanen for Knies as your adding a top 10 playoffs ppg ever to the team.

 

[Tony Romo]

Anyone have any idea what the ask will be on a Knies extension? 6.75 for 6+ years?

I'm all in on going for Rant in the offseason. Having a top 6 that consists of Knies, Matthews and Rantanen is a huge plus. Because they are all huge and makes us a heavier team to play against.

I only mentioned Knies last night because I assume Carolina would ask for him if Rant came with an extension. Would rather keep Knies and go after Rant in the offseason if that's the ask. I think if you do sign him however, you have to do a full switch of either Nylander or Rant to C.

 

[LeafSteel]

Dubas was also the one to sign him originally and it only took him 160 additional games in the AHL after being dealt to become an NHLer

Yes.

Bruins took him and let him develop, because the Bruins are awful at recognizing and developing talent.

Hopefully we sent him packing so Malgin could stay in the lineup……. Oh wait, we did…..

Anyways bigger fish to fry and way easier things to ping off Dubas than Brazeau.

 

[stats1]

The same people wanting to trade Minten for Laughton are the same folks who would be pissed if we traded Knies for Rantanen makes no sense