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Trades & Free Agency Thread: 2024-2025 - Deadline-ageddon

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BurnTheBoats said:
Everyone needs to stop with this 1st round bs for Laughton it makes me sick, the guys teeee rash....id rather keep Domi or Jarnkrok.

Ristolainen is decent if retained but cost more cap then Gudas, Schenn & Murphy.

I like Pageau but is he really an upgrade from Domi??
Its pre close, and I'd argue Max brings more gritt too the bottom 6, and offense...the difference is 1.250M if Pageau is retained 50%....hard pass brother

Too get Tanev, Lorentz & Pacioretty back on the roster we need to move Timmins, Myers, Mermis, Dewar & Reaves.

We're left with Domi, Jarnkrok & Kampf too trade for more cap = 8.250M
The only player waivers exempt is Knies but thats another 925k we can free up, and he might not have to be sent down depending on how long Tanev & Pacioretty are out. Total cap = 9.175M

Lorentz fills the 4th center spot
Two shutdown defenseman will cost us around 4M.....that gives us 5.175M to acquire some help on offense.

Playoff roster
Knies-Matthews-Marner
Marchand-Tavares-Nylander
McMann-McBain-Gallagher
Robertson-Lorentz-Tanev
Steeves-Holmberg-Pacioretty

Rielly-Murphy
McCabe-Tanev
Ekmam-Larsson-Gudas
Benoit-Hakanpaa

PP #1
Nylander-Tavares-Marchand
Matthews-Marner

PP #2
Nylander-Matthews-Knies
Robertson/Steeves-Marner

PK #1
McBain-Tanev
Tanev-Gudas

PK #2
Lorentz-Gallagher
McCabe-Murphy

This would be my ideal roster, and id be willing to move any picks, Jarnkrok, Kampf, Domi, Timmins, Myers, Dewar and any prospects besides Niemela, Mattinen, Minten, Cowan, Hirvonen & Danford to make it work.

Also we keep Benoit he will end up being a top shutdown defenseman, i'd move any young defenseman besides him.

People are so worried about losing draft picks but not one draft pick for the next 10 years will work out to be on the same caliber as Marner facts! And if we dont make changes this tdl Marner will walk 100%....he wants to win


What's his hits/blocked shots the past few years?
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I havnt seen the leafs linked to much of anything that will move the needle
Unless u can pry rantanen or cozens why bother
This team is as good as is without more garbage
 
Americanadian said:
Looking at RD only: Carlo, Risto, maybe Murphy, maybe Andersson.
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I would take Brock Nelson + L.Schenn over Risto or Murphy all day, everyday.

I'd take Andersson over Nelson but I highly doubt he's getting traded, let alone Conroy doing business with Tre. I also seriously doubt Boston is trading Carlo to Toronto.
 
OEL has talent and could be a good bottom pairing puck mover on a championship team.
He should not be a top 4 that's being asked to play his offside alongside a very average defensive player.
We really need to add someone that can play with Rielly and move OEL down to third pairing.
 
weems said:
OEL has talent and could be a good bottom pairing puck mover on a championship team.
He should not be a top 4 that's being asked to play his offside alongside a very average defensive player.
We really need to add someone that can play with Rielly and move OEL down to third pairing.
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OEL needs to play the left side but I think he can handle 21 minutes a night.

Something like this works imo if they add Schenn

OEL - Tanev
Reilly - Schenn
Benoit - McCabe

TOI

McCabe - 22
Tanev - 21
OEL - 21
Rielly - 21
Schenn - 17
Benoit - 16
 
Puckstuff said:
OEL needs to play the left side but I think he can handle 21 minutes a night.

Something like this works imo if they add Schenn

OEL - Tanev
Reilly - Schenn
Benoit - McCabe

TOI

McCabe - 22
Tanev - 21
OEL - 21
Rielly - 21
Schenn - 17
Benoit - 16
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But this is forcing OEL against elite competition, where that is probably exposing him a bit too much.

I would shocked if they went away from the McCabe - Tanev pairing at this point as they have been elite.

The point is we badly need another defencemen. I don't like the current setup and having two of Benoit/Timmins/Myers in the lineup at the same time doesn't inspire much confidence when the goal is championship.
 
Puckstuff said:
OEL needs to play the left side but I think he can handle 21 minutes a night.

Something like this works imo if they add Schenn

OEL - Tanev
Reilly - Schenn
Benoit - McCabe

TOI

McCabe - 22
Tanev - 21
OEL - 21
Rielly - 21
Schenn - 17
Benoit - 16
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Not sure if Luke Schenn would be my first choice at all to bolster RHD depth. It's also crazy to see our best overall defenseman next to Benoit. None of that makes sense. McCabe and Tanev have been among the best in the entire NHL defensively.

weems said:
But this is forcing OEL against elite competition, where that is probably exposing him a bit too much.

I would shocked if they went away from the McCabe - Tanev pairing at this point as they have been elite.

The point is we badly need another defencemen. I don't like the current setup and having two of Benoit/Timmins/Myers in the lineup at the same time doesn't inspire much confidence when the goal is championship.
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I think your 2 best options are Murphy or Ristolainen if you want RHDs that do well in their own way. Schenn would be fine if cheap.

Provorov and Walman are not RHD but would bolster our quality a lot and are capable of playing RD as far as I know.
 
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Objectively, Timmins has been far better than Benoit this year, and should be in the lineup over him, in any scenario where we bring in another D. The only advantage Benoit has, is he's more physical.

We should be aiming to bring in a player who can compliment Rielly, and we've seen before that doesn't need to be an elite player, just a good compliment.

Then run...

McCabe Tanev
Rielly XXX
OEL Timmins
Benoit

SprDaVE said:
I think your 2 best options are Murphy or Ristolainen if you want RHDs that do well in their own way. Schenn would be fine if cheap.

Provorov and Walman are not RHD but would bolster our quality a lot and are capable of playing RD as far as I know.
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The problem with Risto, is we really need a D man to stabilize the Rielly pairing, and Risto also needs a stabilizing partner... it would be a bad mix.
 
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Fogelhund said:
The problem with Risto, is we really need a D man to stabilize the Rielly pairing, and Risto also needs a stabilizing partner... it would be a bad mix.
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It's a better mix than pushing Timmins or Myers into that spot if an injury happens. Risto isn't perfect but he's a big guy that does some good things. He's been solid for Philly. If there's retention on his deal, I think he can be a good mid-pair defenseman that fits into the cap structure.
 
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if you can trust Murphy bouncing back being on a better team. Donato/Murphy package would be good at the TDL. It also locks in your top 4 for next year in advance. Unless you go after an Ekblad or make a trade for a defender in the offseason.

Gives you

McCabe - Tanev
Rielly - Murphy

as the top 4 for the playoffs. I'd potentially give Timmins/OEL PP time over Rielly so he can focus on 5on5.
 
Tony Romo said:
if you can trust Murphy bouncing back being on a better team. Donato/Murphy package would be good at the TDL. It also locks in your top 4 for next year in advance. Unless you go after an Ekblad or make a trade for a defender in the offseason.

Gives you

McCabe - Tanev
Rielly - Murphy

as the top 4 for the playoffs. I'd potentially give Timmins/OEL PP time over Rielly so he can focus on 5on5.
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If Dubas and Keefe was the GM/coach right now that's the deal I would put money on. With Treliving/Berube, I'm not sure I see them having interest in Donato. Murphy makes a lot sense regardless but seems like the Leafs want to spend their assets on a "quality" center.
 
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weems said:
But this is forcing OEL against elite competition, where that is probably exposing him a bit too much.

I would shocked if they went away from the McCabe - Tanev pairing at this point as they have been elite.

The point is we badly need another defencemen. I don't like the current setup and having two of Benoit/Timmins/Myers in the lineup at the same time doesn't inspire much confidence when the goal is championship.
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Fair enough. Using McCabe and Tanev as a shutdown pair with OEL on the bottom pair, is perfectly fine. Put Rielly with Schenn. And then use OEL-Timmins. The only problem is I prefer Benoit to Timmins, but Timmins is RD.

McCabe-Tanev
Rielly-Schenn
OEL-Timmins

SprDaVE said:
Not sure if Luke Schenn would be my first choice at all to bolster RHD depth. It's also crazy to see our best overall defenseman next to Benoit. None of that makes sense. McCabe and Tanev have been among the best in the entire NHL defensively.



I think your 2 best options are Murphy or Ristolainen if you want RHDs that do well in their own way. Schenn would be fine if cheap.

Provorov and Walman are not RHD but would bolster our quality a lot and are capable of playing RD as far as I know.
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If we were to get Provorov, we would have 5 LD and 1 RD. Not sure how the combos would work. One of Rielly, Provorov or OEL would need to play on their offside, and McCabe would too.
 
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Puckstuff said:
OEL needs to play the left side but I think he can handle 21 minutes a night.

Something like this works imo if they add Schenn

OEL - Tanev
Reilly - Schenn
Benoit - McCabe

TOI

McCabe - 22
Tanev - 21
OEL - 21
Rielly - 21
Schenn - 17
Benoit - 16
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We know exactly what OEL is on a championship team. He played 15 minutes/night for Florida in the playoffs last year.
 
Puckstuff said:
If we were to get Provorov, we would have 5 LD and 1 RD. Not sure how the combos would work. One of Rielly, Provorov or OEL would need to play on their offside, and McCabe would too.
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Well technically it would be 4 LHD and 2 RHD assuming Timmins or Myers stays in. Pro scouting needs to get it right but many LHD have played very well RD and vice versa.
 
SprDaVE said:
It's a better mix than pushing Timmins or Myers into that spot if an injury happens. Risto isn't perfect but he's a big guy that does some good things. He's been solid for Philly. If there's retention on his deal, I think he can be a good mid-pair defenseman that fits into the cap structure.
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I agree, he's been solid for Philly, because Zamula is a soldifying steady Defensive partner. Rielly needs a Zamula, not a Risto. Go find a Right handed Zamula.

Tony Romo said:
Also, we would never do it. But we should see what teams Morgan would accept a trade to and potentially look into trading him this offseason.
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If we fail to do anything these playoffs, and somehow we could sign Chychrun as a UFA, the right move would probably be to move off Morgan. I just don't think this franchise has the balls to do that though.
 
SprDaVE said:
Not sure if Luke Schenn would be my first choice at all to bolster RHD depth. It's also crazy to see our best overall defenseman next to Benoit. None of that makes sense. McCabe and Tanev have been among the best in the entire NHL defensively.
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Yeah no kidding. Why mess with it.

It will probably be a quiet deadline and that's OK. We are not close to contending anyways, and it's not worth to mortgage the farm for a cup run yet.
 
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LeafsFan89 said:
Yeah no kidding. Why mess with it.

It will probably be a quiet deadline and that's OK. We are not close to contending anyways, and it's not worth to mortgage the farm for a cup run yet.
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Its the closest we will be for a while unfortunately.....we already mortgaged the farm when we cut the rebuild short years ago.....its do or die this season

And i strongly believe if management doesnt assess our issues it forces Marner & Tavares to sign with another team.

Worst part about this is no one wants to deal draft picks but not one draft pick for the next 10+ years will turn out to be like Marner...thats reality
 
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