Trades & Free Agency Thread: 2024-2025 - Deadline-ageddon

[Kiwi]

I remember that Soucy was on the market recently, he's a big bugger with another year on his deal

I guess Laughton is the best center left? Ewwww

 

[Thornbury]

It's depressing seeing teams with smart management make shrewd adds

Tampa Bay just sold the farm for the help they got. Remember, this is the team that traded 4 draft choices for Jeannot. How'd that turn out? And when Vasilesky and Kucherov age out, they will turn into Bruins 2.0. Matthews hasn't been right all year. Hold your powder, and use this off season to plug a couple of the holes we'll have.

 

[Gabriel426]

That's what im trying to explain to you brother.....our top guys have been over used, if you're constantly having to focus on defense its hard to get anything done, not only has Tampa Bay & Florida's bottom6 outplayed us in the past but they used them against our top lines and wore us down....and how good was there penaltykill vs the Leafs, an area we have lacked in....because our bottom6 has never been assessed

This isn't really exposed in the season but vs a top contender in the playoffs its obvious.

Depth players are huge my friend and play a huge role in a team winning a series or the cup....you cant just look at points, there's a reason those guys we're capable of achieving that, its a full team effort thats what separates winners from losers.

Our top guys have been underperforming and part of the reason why our bottom 6 sucks is bc our top guys took all the cap.

To me, there are top players-AM, MM, Willie, JT and Reilly
Then there are secondary players- Domi, Tanev, McCabe, Knies, OEL and maybe McMann
Then there are depth/supporting players, Holmberg, Kampf, Dewar, Robbie, Beniot and Lorentz.

When Panthers and TB or even Boston beat us, they have secondary players playing depth roles while we only have depth players playing depth roles.

no doubt having more secondary players will make the Leafs better bc they are taking depth players spots. However, if our top guys continue to choke in playoffs, it really doesn’t matter who we have on our 2nd and 3rd lines

 

[Macallan18]

You need to update your take, dude has been way harder on the puck and winning plenty on the wall last couple of months. Young players evolve, so should the commentary.

Yup, the lightbulb has clicked on for him. Glad to see it, was always a fan.

 

[Gabriel426]

Rantanen wouldn’t dress?

Think Rantanen proves that he can be the Best Robin as long as there is a real Batman on the team.
Don’t think we have any Batman on our team. We do have a whole bunch of Robins trying to fill the Batman’s role.

 

[Macallan18]

Still hope there is a deal for us, but want a d man. Offer the farm for someone good….

 

[Torontonian]

Must be refreshing to hear that from your GM when your trying to win..........

 

[DarkKnight]

Yup, the lightbulb has clicked on for him. Glad to see it, was always a fan.

He’s way more controlled now, still has the motor, but it’s with purpose instead of running around, getting knocked off his feet. And, his head is up more, looking to make a pass, instead of just plowing forward. Berube used the word “tenacious” to describe what he wants from him, and to me his game could translate well to the playoffs. He has speed, he can be a puck hound.

 

[Jozay]

Not at all, he and Siegenthaler make up one of the top defensive pairings in the league.

You want a Rielly security blanket? That's it, big guy like 6'6, right shot defensive defenseman.

People are talking top prospect, 1st and 2nd for Parayko...this is a fraction of the cost.

He’s carried by siegenthaler. Look at his metrics when he doesn’t play with him.

 

[ULF_55]

Think Rantanen proves that he can be the Best Robin as long as there is a real Batman on the team.
Don’t think we have any Batman on our team. We do have a whole bunch of Robins trying to fill the Batman’s role.

One joker though, but it isn't dour marner.

 

[Rude Dog]

Must be refreshing to hear that from your GM when your trying to win..........

Unless it doesn't work and the team sucks for a decade. This catches up to you. Lucky for them they have already won and the pressure is off. They also have the benefit of being a go to low tax destination. So they can replace the draft picks with cheap signings. Florida teams def'ly have an advantage.

 

[SprDaVE]

He's gone from taking 14/game in 22/23 (1st on Flyers) to 12/game last season (2nd on Flyers) to 6/game this season (5th on Flyers). There's no denying he used to play C, he just isn't a full time C anymore.

Doesn't mean he can't be on a team that can utilize him there. Since Frost has been gone, he's been their 2nd line center.

 

[Gabriel426]

One joker though, but it isn't dour marner.

I wish we have a joker, as that would mean we actually have an Alpha, lol.
More like Nightwing, Robin, Redhood, Red Robin and Azrael with Alfred at the helm.

 

[Torontonian]

Until the team sucks for a decade. This catches up to you.

I don't think Tampa is going to care much having won 3 Stanley cups and having a potentially 4th one this year or next.

Are you telling me you wouldn't trade 10 years of bad teams for even one Stanley cup?

 

[LeafSteel]

He’s way more controlled now, still has the motor, but it’s with purpose instead of running around, getting knocked off his feet. And, his head is up more, looking to make a pass, instead of just plowing forward. Berube used the word “tenacious” to describe what he wants from him, and to me his game could translate well to the playoffs. He has speed, he can be a puck hound.

What a novel concept: allowing a young player to learn and mature, and not expect a finished product that gets sent away for nothing before he’s had 100 NHL games.

Have been pulling for Robertson, and was one of the ones I thought would benefit the most with Keefe being turfed, and so far so good.

I hope he stays and continues to meet his development potential.

 

[hullsy47]

It's depressing seeing teams with smart management make shrewd adds

Or a new president is coming in and tre has orders not to mortgage the future on scraps

 

[dubplatepressure]

Jakub Vrana on waivers... may be worth a look.

 

[Kiwi]

He’s way more controlled now, still has the motor, but it’s with purpose instead of running around, getting knocked off his feet. And, his head is up more, looking to make a pass, instead of just plowing forward. Berube used the word “tenacious” to describe what he wants from him, and to me his game could translate well to the playoffs. He has speed, he can be a puck hound.

He also has a nose for the net, even one goal late in a series is unbelievably valuable

 

[BertCorbeau]

Must be refreshing to hear that from your GM when your trying to win..........

I mean this is true until you don’t win and then your GM gets shit on for emptying the cupboards

 

[Gabriel426]

I don't think Tampa is going to care much having won 3 Stanley cups and having a potentially 4th one this year or next.

Are you telling me you wouldn't trade 10 years of bad teams for even one Stanley cup?

They won two Cups in the last 5 yrs, I don’t think they care about the future.
If Leafs have their playoffs success the past 5 yrs with 2 Cups. I don’t think any of us would care if we trade away our 1sts, Cowan, Minten and Danford for rentals

 

[DarkKnight]

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They won two Cups in the last 5 yrs, I don’t think they care about the future.
If Leafs have their playoffs success the past 5 yrs with 2 Cups. I don’t think any of us would care if we trade away our 1sts, Cowan, Minten and Danford for rentals

Agreed. Just win one cup and nobody will give a shit for a decade, we will always have that moment.

 

[Gabriel426]

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Agreed. Just win one cup and nobody will give a shit for a decade, we will always have that moment.

Exactly. And I think that’s the key as to why Tre seems to be only making depth moves bc the core 5 just had not shown that they are close.

Oilers can go all in bc their top guys showed they can do it in playoffs plus they lost in Game 7 of the Cup Finals. But the Leafs can’t bc they are just another playoffs teams over the past 8 yrs as supported by their playoffs records.

 

[Minty Cowboy]

Bet Tre gets someone we haven’t been speculated to be “in on”. Someone that won’t be expected

 

[Commander Clueless]

They won two Cups in the last 5 yrs, I don’t think they care about the future.
If Leafs have their playoffs success the past 5 yrs with 2 Cups. I don’t think any of us would care if we trade away our 1sts, Cowan, Minten and Danford for rentals

And also because of that, they have confidence in their core.


Leafs have no such evidence to create similar confidence.



Could explain some hesitance on Tre's part (if hesitance in fact exists).

 

[SprDaVE]

And also because of that, they have confidence in their core.


Leafs have no such evidence to create similar confidence.



Could explain some hesitance on Tre's part (if hesitance in fact exists).

Then he should have probably made trades in the off-season to rectify that instead of going with the same group of players of the last whatever how many years?

I think they do like the players and team.

If they don't believe they can win the cup and they are hesitant about it, then we have a bigger issue at hand... it's the GM.