Confirmed with Link: Trade with the Washington Capitals, Beck Malenstyn for 2nd round (#43)

[toddkaz]

 

[Fjordy]

Let's just roll with Joker again in our top 4

 

[Chainshot]

I'd also like to say, I did mention that 4th liners who bring a certain skillset can get premium value. I referred to Goose as to why Jeannot may get a 2nd round pick, which really wasn't a great comparison, but still- a 4th line of misfits gets you cratered in. A 4th line that plays the body, gets heavy D zone matchups, and can hold their own can be a difference maker in the playoffs.

A line that gets ridiculous d-zone use was what happened with the Girgensons-Larsson-Okposo line and I would bet that looking at this, people who hated Larsson are also going to come down hard on hating Malenstyn.

 

[Sabre the Win]

Except thats tampering to say that

I'm not sure it works like that, its not exceptionally rare that teams get players to waive NTC's by selling them on the team and their position in the organisation. From what I understand is it works like how a lawyer works, you lay down your argument to the agent and the agent passes it onto the player. Now I believe there has to be an initial deal with Calgary already in place before the previous process to work.

 

[Fjordy]

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It doesn't look very good

 

[HaNotsri]

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This is the kind of stock that can only go up! Or something.

 

[Dirty Dog]

Yea it’s probably bad value. And we probably had to pay a premium because of the inactivity of the past two years and a failure to acquire these types of players before. That’s in KA.

But if the player ends up filling that role, then oh well, I’m fine with it

 

[Beerz]

A line that gets ridiculous d-zone use was what happened with the Girgensons-Larsson-Okposo line and I would bet that looking at this, people who hated Larsson are also going to come down hard on hating Malenstyn.

Only if we try and pu5 Malenstyn in top 6

 

[OkimLom]

Beck had 8% ozone starts this past year, and STILL put up 20 ES points. That’s honestly incredible. I don’t know if there is another player in the league with those splits. He has middle 6 upside, which is nothing like Robinson. People who think he is replacing Robinson are selling him short. He is similar to greenway than Robinson

I don’t even hate the guy, but the over expectations fans are putting on a guy that was inconsistent through the season and at a time where we should be looking to upgrade the production from our bottom 6 players, I think fans should understand that there are those that view this as a massive overpayment for his abilities. Giving up a 2nd rounder for a guy that is a RFA that needs a new contract.

This deal just shows the league knows they have Adams bent over in terms of leverage.

For those Justifying the pick because the “Sabres got their guy they targeted” is not the flex or positive spin they think it does.

 

[WhereAreTheCookies]

The people saying "Oh we could have had Mangiapane" baffle me. Mangiapane is a good middle 6 winger, but he makes close to 6 million per and very likely wants the same or more long term. That's a lot to pay for a guy who is still riding a season and a half where he had an unsustainable 20% shooting. The past 2 seasons his shooting percentage dropped to a much more average range and more concerning is last season his shot generation also dropped substantially. He went from shooting 20% and 19% to 9% and 11.5%. If people felt he was closer to the 20% shooter from 3 years ago he would have garnered far more than a 2nd, and Calgary wouldn't have traded him for so little.

As for Malestyn, he checks most of the boxes for a bottom 6 player. He also fits a mold the Sabres desperately needed. Maybe they overpaid to get him, but maybe they see more in him. Remember everyone saying what a terrible trade it was for Greenway and we overpaid for him? How did that work out?

 

[Zman5778]

It doesn't look very good

He's played one year in the NHL and in that year he got started in the defensive zone NINETY PERCENT OF THE TIME.

Of course his fancy stats are going to look like shit.

 

[Zman5778]

The people saying "Oh we could have had Maniapane" baffle me. Mangiapane is a good middle 6 winger, but he makes close to 6 million per and very likely wants the same or more long term. T

Don't forget the NTC that likely made him not an option for us.

 

[CowbellConray]

I don’t even hate the guy, but the over expectations fans are putting on a guy that was inconsistent through the season and at a time where we should be looking to upgrade the production from our bottom 6 players, I think fans should understand that there are those that view this as a massive overpayment for his abilities. Giving up a 2nd rounder for a guy that is a RFA that needs a new contract.

This deal just shows the league knows they have Adams bent over in terms of leverage.

For those Justifying the pick because the “Sabres got their guy they targeted” is not the flex or positive spin they think it does.

We obviously have a different view of the player, as I think he is an upgrade on several of our bottom six players. Don’t be shocked if he is better than greenway this year

 

[Fjordy]

He's played one year in the NHL and in that year he got started in the defensive zone NINETY PERCENT OF THE TIME.

Of course his fancy stats are going to look like shit.

I get it, those 1% attack metrics are probably due to his huge amount of DZ starts? Although I was hoping he would be better on PK.

 

[Sabre the Win]

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Well I guess his ability to PK is a bit over blown but I see grey in even strength defence and competition which is good. I don't expect this guy be an offensive force so his offense numbers don't bother me.

Go and get Will Carrier and bring back Girgensons and that's a heavy 4th line.

 

[SabresFan26]

Watching Adams get outmaneuvered in real time is almost as hard to watch as the presidential debate. Defcon 5 guys, we have a problem.

Are Adams and Pegula arguing who can drive the ball 50 yards?

 

[start winnin]

LOL being a Sabres fan is hard wtf is Adams doing, the value is off but from what I hear about the player he seems like he addresses a need at least

 

[Fjordy]

As for Malestyn, he checks most of the boxes for a bottom 6 player. He also fits a mold the Sabres desperately needed. Maybe they overpaid to get him, but maybe they see more in him. Remember everyone saying what a terrible trade it was for Greenway and we overpaid for him? How did that work out?

But is he better than Robinson? I'm not sure yet.

 

[Zman5778]

Go and get Will Carrier and bring back Girgensons and that's a heavy 4th line.

I was just thinking that Malenstyn and Girgensons would make for 2/3rds of a very good NHL 4th line.

 

[Zman5778]

But is he better than Robinson? I'm not sure yet.

He hits more and PKs more.

 

[Chainshot]

He's played one year in the NHL and in that year he got started in the defensive zone NINETY PERCENT OF THE TIME.

Of course his fancy stats are going to look like shit.

And they aren't actually that bad. Is he product of Dowd alone? We'll find out.

 

[Dirty Dog]

I was just thinking that Malenstyn and Girgensons would make for 2/3rds of a very good NHL 4th line.

Yes! Get them a legit center instead of krebs

 

[Matt Ress]

Robinson is just fast. He’s basically a modern day Rico Fata.

I wouldn't have minded bringing Robinson back but yeah, not physical and not particularly good in his own zone. Melanstyn brings much more tangible 4th line qualities and who gives a shit about our second 2nd or what the Caps paid for whoever.

 

[Sabre the Win]

Are Adams and Pegula arguing who can drive the ball 50 yards?

"You don't even carry your own clubs"
"I got my handicapp down to a 6"
"Thats a lie, your handicapp is an 8, I've seen you swing"

 

[CrazyWayne]

So he kind of sounds like a player the sabres traded a few years back.... Marcus Foligno but without the name recognition and NHL experience