Proposal: Trade Rumors/Proposals 2019-20 Part II

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aragorn

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When it comes to goaltenders in Ottawa's org I think they should move Anderson at the deadline & bring up Hogberg permanently to finish this yr. Nilsson has another yr on his contract so I would go with Nilsson & Hogberg for next season & evaluate the goaltending again next yr. However, at the 2020 draft I would definitely target Askorov with the SJ pick as Ottawa's eventual starting goalie of the future. Ottawa would then have a few extra goalies that they could trade for future assets.
 

aragorn

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Hogberg could be the answer
He could & I like him, but we have also seen him in Belleville for the last two yrs & he doesn't scream elite, he's more of a question mark than the answer whether he can be a starter or even a backup in the NHL. Gustavsson was suppose to be a goalie with #1 potential too, we'll see how he does, but last yr was a tough yr for both of them. That's the problem with Ottawa's goalies, they all have question marks & it's a wait & see with all of them, none of them are sure fire #1 goalie potential.
 
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stempniaksen

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Okay. Working on the previous assumption that Florida gets Pageau and Anderson what does Ottawa get in your world.

Where's Florida find the cap space to add Pageau AND Anderson? They are currently ~47k away from the cap ceiling with no real cap dumps to speak of.

I know the cap hits will be pro-rated by the deadline, but I'm not sure I see a way for Florida to even fit one of the two into their lineup, let alone both, given how close to the ceiling they are.

Value wise you're probably looking at a 1st + B prospect + conditional late pick, but that's only in theory in this case.
 

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Where's Florida find the cap space to add Pageau AND Anderson? They are currently ~47k away from the cap ceiling with no real cap dumps to speak of.

I know the cap hits will be pro-rated by the deadline, but I'm not sure I see a way for Florida to even fit one of the two into their lineup, let alone both, given how close to the ceiling they are.

Value wise you're probably looking at a 1st + B prospect + conditional late pick, but that's only in theory in this case.
No idea. It wasn’t my scenario, the original was Andy and Pageau for Serin Noel and 1st 2020, which I replied to with Spencer Knight + conditional.
 

stempniaksen

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No idea. It wasn’t my scenario, the original was Andy and Pageau for Serin Noel and 1st 2020, which I replied to with Spencer Knight + conditional.

Fair enough. I think in a lot of ways Andy to Florida makes a ton of sense (his family is there, his off-season home is there, glaring lack of talent/experience at backup G, high expectations for that team this year). But then you get to the money and it becomes almost unfathomable to see how the Cats fit him in.
 

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He could & I like him, but we have also seen him in Belleville for the last two yrs & he doesn't scream elite, he's more of a question mark than the answer whether he can be a starter or even a backup in the NHL. Gustavsson was suppose to be a goalie with #1 potential too, we'll see how he does, but last yr was a tough yr for both of them. That's the problem with Ottawa's goalies, they all have question marks & it's a wait & see with all of them, none of them are sure fire #1 goalie potential.
that is goalies
 

Burrowsaurus

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logan brown is gonna go down , pageau is gonna go to pens for galchenyuk, first, and a prospect
 

Nac Mac Feegle

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they want galchenyuk out. takes money off the books for them.

They could move him separately for an asset. He's on the last year of his contract, so he'd be a positive asset as a rental. Unless he has some sort of major injury happening right now that I don't know about.
 

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They could move him separately for an asset. He's on the last year of his contract, so he'd be a positive asset as a rental. Unless he has some sort of major injury happening right now that I don't know about.

His contract isn't great for what he's currently providing, and I don't think he's the kind of player you add to put on your 3rd or 4th line, so contending teams looking for a rental would likely be more inclined to look elsewhere. I guess a team like Colorado that has tons of cap space might be interested but I don't think he's going to create much of a bidding war.

That said, Pens sending a 1st and prospect along with him seems unlikely... but they'd have to move out some salary to add Pageau.
 

stempniaksen

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what about buying low on wennberg?

The people who have an issue with White's contract would have an aneurysm if we traded for Wennberg.

The guy has 4 goals in his last 104 games. I know he's more of a playmaker, but that's absolutely unacceptable for someone who has played in the top-six for most of that time.

The only glimmer of hope is seeing how much better Duke is away from Tortorella and hoping Wennberg could make the same kind of jump as well. As is though, the guy is a huge disappointment and is incredibly overpaid for what he brings to the table. The guy is also only 1.5 years younger than JGP, personally if I were to commit 5x4 to someone it would be JGP over a "maybe".
 
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Boud

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Galchenyuk would be added simply to make cap space for Pageau and allow flexibility for other deals. He has basically no value right now as a UFA. No contender will tie up 5M of their salary for him and give him top 6 minutes considering the way he's been playing. He's a guy you put on a top line on a rebuilding team and see if you have something there but otherwise no one will take him at this point for that salary unless it's seen as a cap dump with potential.

Galchenyuk, 1rst and a prospect makes sense in the optic that Galchenyuk likely doesn't stay in Ottawa and is more of a filler for the remainder of the year and Pens need to trade him and no team would willingly take his contract right now without sending some salary back so that doesn't help the Pens much. It makes a lot of sense for Ottawa and Pittsburgh though.
 
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"But after just a couple months and change in the Steel City, the Penguins are finding out what the Coyotes and Montreal Canadiens (who drafted him third overall in 2012) had already learned: Galchenyuk has the talent to be a top-six forward, but he’s too much of a liability to play in the top six.
He has remarkable hands, an elite shot and decent speed, but he just can’t quite figure out how to play the game the way his coaches want him to — and Mike Sullivan is now the fourth coach at this level who appears perplexed about how to get something more out of him."

Amazing how much this description of Galchenyuk from today's Sportsnet article sounds like Duclair from last year. I'd be willing to take a chance on Gally, see if DJ can work his magic again.
 

Do Make Say Think

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Giving Glachenyuk a shot seems like a no-brainer to me. DJ turned Duclair into Duke, he very well might be able to do the same with Galchenyuk.

He can't be the centerpiece of a return on Pageau though.
 
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