Speculation: Trade Rumors: Part IV
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The Mighty Duck Man
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In what way is Timonen an injury risk? Before this year, he had missed only 26 games since turning 30. That's pretty great for most guys, let alone an undersized defenseman in his 30s. He might not be Cogs, but he's still one of the most durable guys in the league.
Timonen is how old? 39? 40? "Big injury risk" might have been an improper phrase to use. I have my doubts that that durability can continue. You reach the age he is and your body starts to break down and you can no longer play at the level you have before. It happens to the best of them. I think back to last year as well when we acquired Stephane Robidas and I never thought of him as an injury prone player before that trade. We all know how that turned out.
Vipers31
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Well, it's probably going to be between this one and the TDL GDT tomorrow in a week. Unless huge rumors start making the rounds.
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Getzmonster
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Agreed, I love Timonen but he's a guy you add in the offseason under the circumstances, not as a major deadline piece when he's been m.i.a. the entire season. Too much risk, Murray's taken on more than enough rebound gambles for one season.
Vipers31
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That doesn't exactly make one an injury risk. He has been one of the more durable players around and has always been a very healthy and fit guy. If anything, his condition this year might make him a bit of a health risk (hardly the same as injury risk), but even that should be quantifiable by the medical staff(s).
I'm not denying there's a risk that's at least higher than with guys that have been playing, but I don't think it's necessarily too high, and the upside with him easily trumps virtually anything on the market.
The Mighty Duck Man
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Exactly. People might have a point if he had missed all of this year due to an injury, but he didn't. He might be old, and it might happen, but he's been amazingly durable for his entire career, I just don't really think it's a significant risk.
The Midnight Burrito
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He'll be 40 next month.
I'm with Keerole. If the cost for an undersized 40 year old defenseman coming off a severe medical condition and a long layoff is higher than a middling pick, I'd pass.
DavidBL
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If we are going to spend more than a middling pick on a player we might as well go for the best fit. To me that would be Michalek. If we could get him for a prospect and a pick I would be ecstatic. You could probably get them to take a contract back like Brewer or LJ if the pick/Prospect are good enough. Either would cut costs for their owner.
As for L. Eriksson, to me he seems like the best fit for our winger needs. I have thought for a long time that we needed more passers as we seem to have a plethora of shooters but not enough players to get the puck to them.
As for L. Eriksson, to me he seems like the best fit for our winger needs. I have thought for a long time that we needed more passers as we seem to have a plethora of shooters but not enough players to get the puck to them.
The Mighty Duck Man
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Appears to be exactly like the Beleskey scratch earlier this year, but you never know.
don't do it Murray.
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I don't understand the Wiz hate. He was playing first pairing minutes and wanted first pairing money to keep doing it. He's far less overpaid than Stoner.
The Mighty Duck Man
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I've never gotten it, either. I've also never understood why so many act like it was this big, dramatic breakup. There's basically no reason to think that.
What's left of his contract is pretty great, too. Having a guy like him making only $3 million when Kesler, Lindholm, Vatanen and Palmieri all need new deals would be potentially huge.
WhatTheDuck
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The bolded is significant. His contract almost couldn't be structured any better-- two years remaining with declining salary.
I've never understood the Wiz hate either. He would be a solid upgrade over Lovejoy and wouldn't cost an arm and a leg to acquire.
BB88
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wiz's cap hit still is 5.5M in his last season.
He just earns 3M but it's not his cap hit.
2016 base salary $3,000,000 - cap hit $5,500,000
ShadowDuck
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Wasn't happy with Wiz during his last year here, I was ecstatic when we traded him. I would love him back though. He's a pretty solid D-man if you limit his responsibility, and I think he'd fit in perfect behind Fowler, Beauch, and Lindholm.
The Mighty Duck Man
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That's kind of irrelevant for this team. With the internal budget, Murray's never really gotten close to the ceiling, and almost certainly won't in 16-17. He's never done it as much as I maybe thought he would, but he's added a few guys with remaining salary being less than their cap hit(Blake, Visnovsky, Bourque).
I guess "salary" wasn't the right word to use. Your statement explains the point I was attempting to convey.
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