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I don't disagree that Eberle is tremendous. As I said, I probably wouldn't make the trade. I fully expect a bounce back from Eberle this season. I do think this shows that losing one of the five doesn't kill the team though. I don't think you can look at a plan by it's individual parts.
If u trade Eberle it better mean a good player is coming back - by that I mean letang
I'd rather have Eberle than Letang. Letang's strengths are redundant when we have Schultz. I believe you pay players for what they bring/add. Letang really doesn't add all that much to the Oilers as a RH offensive specialist even if he is the best in the league at it.
Not in a million years would I trade Ebs for a #2/3 defenseman
If we really need the points I'd make a deal for Brian Campbell instead of Letang. Cheaper price. Same value. Second pairing player with great production.
Do we need the points? Offence off the blue line is a bit of a concern, but I'm optimistic that Belov and an improving Schultz will help. I also think Petry could produce more with a more sheltered role. That one is hard to predict though.
I actually see Letang as Eberle - but playing D.
Smooth. Good shot. Soft. Doesn`t always care for playing D. Dangler. Small. 1st line player.
Anyways, wrap this thread up!
On to the next one!
I think lack of versatility amongst half of our defensemen (Smid, Fistric, N Schultz) cost us more than anything. Petry is a great puck mover. Schultz will hopefully grow into that role. Belov will be an upgrade over Potter in that role.
But when they have partners on LD that are terrible puck handlers and can't even make a good first pass it puts more pressure and difficulty on them to start the play.
I feel if Petry was partnered with his LD equal, he'd put up 30+ guaranteed points a year. Same with JSchultz as an offensive threat with a Petry-type LD.
As for Campbell vs Letang. Trust me, it's an equal trade off in all situations. Only difference is age. And Campbell being 1/3-1/4 the trade value.
He's a Norris candidate, he's 26, of dmen have long careers, and he's still young and will continue to improve. He's a number 1 Dman on almost every team in the nhl
My guess is a 3-way between the Oilers, Leafs and Pens.
Struggles terribly in #1 ES role. Obviously thrived on PP. Inflated numbers from being on that team.
Ranger would be a nice addition I think. Klefbom and Marincin are coming in a few seasons.
Ranger - Petry
Smid - Belov
N Schultz - J Schultz
It's significantly better than last year.
Letang is better by a bit in all areas, but I agree that the trade value is not comparable.
As I said yesterday, GM's are flying into New York, so there won't be any deals done.
Thursday there will be some intros, but I'd guess tomorrow will be quiet too. Friday things will pick up, Saturday we'll be hearing a ton of rumors but maybe only 2-3 trades of substance at the most. Sunday will be an absolute frenzy.
It's the calm before the storm.
Proposal:
MPS
Nick Schultz
37th
For
Campbell (1.5M retained)
Matthias
I should also mention, that if you think Ranger and Belov >>> Potter and Whitney, you'd be dead wrong.
If Edmonton wants to upgrade their D, they are going to need two shutdown guys or one two-way top pairing guy.
Even if it doesn't kill the team there is no reason to do it. Guys that can bring what that package does can be found through FA and trade using pieces that weren't 21yo all stars. It's a pointless downgrade.
The more moves required to complete your roster the less likely it is that it's possible. What happens when one of the GMs or FAs changes their mind at the last minute? Then that piece you were counting on to fill the hole you created with another deal isn't there and the Oilers miss the playoff again. It's better to just fill the holes you have at the moment instead of swapping holes and then trying to fill the new ones.
Seems like Letang is getting underrated. I don't think he's worth over $7mil or whatever he's asking for, but he's a #1 dman and a gamebreaker. He's dominated games against us before, like taken them over and won them. He would hands down be our #1 dman and would change the complexion of the team.
But like I said, he's probably asking for too much. I'd be happy with Letang for $6.5mil or so, but anything over that is iffy.
Have you compared how many points the oilers d has put up compared to the rest of the league over the last 4 years? There's a direct correlation between the amount of points you get from the back end and how well your team does.
