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Vatanen could easily fit.. he replaces Stralman who is a UFA.

Mcdonagh-Girardi
Staal - Vatanen
Moore- Klein

whats so far fetched about it? if we can acquire him.?

Extra Dmen always have value. So if we have to move Moore/ Klein/ Allen/ McI it's not a horrible problem.
 
Pretty positive Allen is a lefty and if Vatanen we're acquired Stralman would probably be dealt or walk at the end of the year. Leaving G, Klein, Vat, McI. Not that crazy.

Allen can play the right side, Stralman would bring in assets if dealt. Acquiring Vatanen while keeping Girardi would be bonkers.
 
Richards absolutely must be bought out. The rules have changed. No way we can assume the risk of the medical recapture. All future discussion should include this as fact. We need a center to replace him. Carry on.
 
Yes, but 1. It's a win now move and 2. He hasn't won anything in the playoffs.

What's the point of even discussing it? In what universe are the Sharks dealing either of these players to rent a player to supposedly put them over the top. Completely counterintuitive and really a non-discussion topic. Thornton also JUST re-signed, and waited for Marleau to sign as well before announcing his deal. Blatantly a non-starter in trade talks.
 
Yes, but 1. It's a win now move and 2. He hasn't won anything in the playoffs.

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Henrik Lundqvist hasn't won anything in the playoffs either. Joe Thornton has consistently performed well; he does not break out into hives when the regular season is over. He is better at hockey than Ryan Callahan by a very significant margin. He is not coming here if Callahan's going there.
 
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Henrik Lundqvist hasn't won anything in the playoffs either. Joe Thornton has consistently performed well; he does not break out into hives when the regular season is over. He is better at hockey than Ryan Callahan by a very significant margin. He is not coming here if Callahan's going there.

He's not coming here at all. He just re-signed and his team is much closer to contending to boot.
 
San Jose is definitely hot on Callahan, maybe Stralman too.

I'd love to get Nieto of course but you know they want to unload Man Bear Pig.
 
He's not coming here at all. He just re-signed and his team is much closer to contending to boot.

Yeah, but I would have felt weird only mentioning one thing wrong with that post.

If they're presuming Havlat has negative value, I'd love to have him as a trade anchor. If we don't keep the Bad Contract Brothers Richards and Callahan a year of an overpaid depth player doesn't matter that much.
 
If we trade Staal, we should do it this deadline.. could prob get quite the return

I've been a fan of trading him now just because he's healthy & he seems so high risk w injury ?'s & if he will stay.



Perhaps

Staal for Vatanen ++ ?

Or use him in trade for a young C?
 
fine we can take havlat but hertl too? for cally sounds good..

seriously..
id be fine with havlat and a young fwd for (neito/wingles) for cally, dorsett


and...

if we move staal..

move staal, cally, dorsett +picks/prospect for edler and kesler
 
Sharks have a few interesting RHD prospects between Tennyson, DeMelo and Acolaste. Not much in the way of forwards though.

I think Demers has always been on the Rangers radar though.
 
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Henrik Lundqvist hasn't won anything in the playoffs either. Joe Thornton has consistently performed well; he does not break out into hives when the regular season is over. He is better at hockey than Ryan Callahan by a very significant margin. He is not coming here if Callahan's going there.

If someone is going to come here as a veteran, I personally think it would be better to have someone who has won a Cup in the locker room.

No doubt he's better than Callahan, but do we really need him now? Are we a win now team? I don't think so. That's what most of my post hinged on, although I didn't make that clear. Yes, the whole winner factor may not be the strongest one, although I think it helps in the locker room.

Now, if all you can't get for Callahan is somehow Joe Thornton, I wouldn't be mad. He's still a great player.

But like you said it's a moot point.
 
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fine we can take havlat but hertl too? for cally sounds good..

seriously..
id be fine with havlat and a young fwd for (neito/wingles) for cally, dorsett


and...

if we move staal..

move staal, cally, dorsett +picks/prospect for edler and kesler

:laugh:

That would be great I think I would be able to forgive Sather for every bad contract since 05 if he could work out Hertl coming for Callahan
 
San Jose interested in Ryan Callahan? A few weeks ago, many were saying that the return San Jose got for Ryane Clowe should be comparable for what the Rangers could get for Callahan. Would a San Jose 2nd and 3rd along with a conditional pick be ok? I know we aren't getting players back but we'll have picks and more crucial, cap space for the off season. I think the debates here are the "we are in the playoffs, let's go for it all" vs "this team is a pretender". I like Callahan but I think his departure could be overcome. Even if the Rangers don't get a roster player, I think the Rangers could still be that second tier playoff sleeper.
 
San Jose interested in Ryan Callahan? A few weeks ago, many were saying that the return San Jose got for Ryane Clowe should be comparable for what the Rangers could get for Callahan. Would a San Jose 2nd and 3rd along with a conditional pick be ok? I know we aren't getting players back but we'll have picks and more crucial, cap space for the off season. I think the debates here are the "we are in the playoffs, let's go for it all" vs "this team is a pretender". I like Callahan but I think his departure could be overcome. Even if the Rangers don't get a roster player, I think the Rangers could still be that second tier playoff sleeper.
Since the 3rd that went for Clowe was Florida's, I'd want their 1st & 2nd or Nieto plus their 2nd.
 
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