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Rumor: Trade Rumor/Speculation Thread XXVI: G Staying Put.

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Callahan is not a 3rd liner, but regardless 6x6 is huge commitment at this point for a 29yo that plays that type of game. This whole thing got F'up 3 yrs ago when they signed him to that stupid 3 yr deal. Unfortunately now here we are and at this point 6x6 is going to be hard to swallow.
 
Maybe there are some 6 year term leaks and over anticipation from AV to convince potential trade partners that they won't have to break the bank with a 7 year deal for Callahan if they are gun shy about giving up too much for a rental
 
haveandare said:
I don't think he's a third liner. He's a third liner like Malkin is a second line center in that he's a third liner here today because there are two guys who are playing very well ahead of him.

It's a ridiculous contract this year, but next year? The year after? I'm not sure.

Again, I'm not necessarily for it. I just read this 6 x 6 thing for the first time a short while ago so I'm still kinda processing it and thinking on it, but my first question is what will this look like in a year or two? The term is worrying no matter how you slice it IMO.
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Make no mistake about, Callahan is and will never be more than a very good 3rd liner. He's a lot more like Mike York than Graves, as some suggest.
 
This season's version of Ryan Callahan is a third-liner. Not sure if you can argue against that. Especially when taking into account Nash and Zuccarello. He's clearly behind those two players this season. Not to mention, both of those guys are even PKing this year, too.

Take with a grain of salt. I've been souring on Callahan more and more every day since we traded Dubinsky :p:
 
If this rumor that the Rangers went up to 6/$36M is true, I kind of hate it. They can't go a dollar higher, period.
 
silverfish said:
This season's version of Ryan Callahan is a third-liner. Not sure if you can argue against that. Especially when taking into account Nash and Zuccarello. He's clearly behind those two players this season. Not to mention, both of those guys are even PKing this year, too.

Take with a grain of salt. I've been souring on Callahan more and more every day since we traded Dubinsky :p:
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Agreed, and when you consider Fast and Miller being pretty much NHL ready it would make this signing seem even more stupid if does happen
 
Callahan wants to be paid for his past performance, while the Rangers need to pay him at his anticipated future performance, which is where the disconnect comes in. Callahan is no longer on the top PP unit, he isn't this coach's go-to forward on the PK, (that would be Bardof's nemesis), and he's not necessarily the obvious player to put out in the waning minutes of the game. (Both Boyle and Stepan have seen similar duties, depending upon if a RH or LH center is needed.) Making him the 3rd highest paid player on this team when he is likely no longer going to hold that significance going forward is just a bad business decision.
 
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AHB said:
On this team, he's a third liner, that simple
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On this team, he might well be the 3rd or 4th best forward on a team with 3 really good right wings. It doesnt mean hes a "third liner"

It means this team was built by an *******.
 
The biggest blight on Callahan's resume, for me at least, is his inability to be a catalyst in the post-season. He's just not a $6M per year player. If this guy was an Ottawa Senator, nobody around here would be trying to justify $6M per year for him. Far too much emotional attachment.
 
SnowblindNYR said:
What pisses me off about the 6X6 is how many casual fans will be ecstatic if we sign him to that.
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I'm not shocked he would get that. He would as a UFA. Is it too much? yep it is.

Someone is going to pay it and I'm not shocked the Rangers would. A penny more and I cry though:laugh:
 
He's a 3rd liner, not because of the depth that we have at RW. He's a 3rd liner because IMO he's not good enough to be a decent 2nd liner. He doesn't produce that much anymore and his energy game isn't really there this year.
 
Sather had been on my good side for awhile and then he goes and pulls this ********. 6x6 for Callahan. I'd rather shoot up heroine.
 
jas said:
Callahan wants to be paid for his past performance, while the Rangers need to pay at his anticipated future performance, which is where the disconnect comes in. Callahan is no longer on the top PP unit, h e isn't this coach's go-to forward on the PK, (that would be Bardof's nemesis), and he's not necessarily the obvious player to put out in the waning minutes of the game. (Both Boyle and Stepan have seen similar duties, depending upon if a RH or LH center is needed.) Making him the 3rd highest paid player on this team when he is likely no longer going to hold that significance going forward is just a bad business decision.
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Nailed it. We aren't too far removed from gang-busting Torts Callahan... You need to look two, three, four years into this deal and know that he is going to be just that, a third liner. Would be a great third line guy to have on a good team, no doubt. But not at that hit. 5 mil max.
 
AHB said:
On this team, he's a third liner, that simple
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I don't think that way. They have 2 - 2nd lines really. Richards is right at the top of the pts list and he's Callys C.

Also Nash and Zuc can play LW. IF MSL is acquired it can fit still with Cally
 
Rangers front office are doing everything within reason to keep Callahan (can't blame them for lack of trying) ... this is all on Callahan.
 
jas said:
Callahan wants to be paid for his past performance, while the Rangers need to pay at his anticipated future performance, which is where the disconnect comes in. Callahan is no longer on the top PP unit, h e isn't this coach's go-to forward on the PK, (that would be Bardof's nemesis), and he's not necessarily the obvious player to put out in the waning minutes of the game. (Both Boyle and Stepan have seen similar duties, depending upon if a RH or LH center is needed.) Making him the 3rd highest paid player on this team when he is likely no longer going to hold that significance going forward is just a bad business decision.
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A lot of this. And mostly, he's just very replaceable. Miller and Fast will both bring a lot of what Callahan brought over the next few years. This money would simply be SO much better spent elsewhere, even if all we got in return for Cally was one high B prospect or a 20ish overall pick.
 
Trxjw said:
The biggest blight on Callahan's resume, for me at least, is his inability to be a catalyst in the post-season. He's just not a $6M per year player. If this guy was an Ottawa Senator, nobody around here would be trying to justify $6M per year for him. Far too much emotional attachment.
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And, you can see that in the responses of the pro-Callahan posts. There has been a lot of hyperbole in the emotional support for keeping Callahan.
 
Since we're offering ridiculous amounts of money for Callahan does that mean the MSL trade is dead? Why would Sather offer that much if he thought he was getting MSL?
 
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