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Speculation: Trade Rumor/Speculation Thread XXIV: C'est la St. Louis?

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BrooklynRangersFan said:
You realize you can only play so many of those forwards at one time, you think you've got a real shot at the cup and you just finished watching Cally and Backes mesh extremely well at the highest level of competition. Yes, I do.
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Agree to disagree I guess. Seems like their offer is Stewart. I haven't heard anything about them offering their top prospects, who I'd imagine they value more than a guy who plays an underwhelming game in the spot Callahan would take.

Were Callahan and Backes that good together? I heard a lot of positives about them, but I didn't really see them do much that made me think their play seriously boosted Callahan's value.
 
If I was Tampa I would rather have a mad MSL for the rest of the year compared to a rental Cally who they have no interest in paying. I think MSL is too much of a professional that he would quit on his team in a playoff run where they could be hosting a first round series.

The questions go away until the season ends once the deadline is over.
 
17futurecap said:
If I was Tampa I would rather have a mad MSL for the rest of the year compared to a rental Cally who they have no interest in paying. I think MSL is too much of a professional that he would quit on his team in a playoff run where they could be hosting a first round series.

The questions go away until the season ends once the deadline is over.
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I think - and hope - you're right. The deadline comes and goes and he's still there, Stevie Y tells him "look, I tried, but Slats was trying to rob me and I've got a responsibility to the owner and the fanbase," and then he walks into the locker room. Do you really think he gives anything less than 110% for the team on a playoff run? That's not Marty St. Louis.
 
GAGLine said:
My fear is that we'll trade Cally + for MSL, we won't get past the 2nd round either this year or next, and then MSL will retire. Then what are we left with? By trading for MSL, we are basically saying that we are going for the cup now. I hope it's worth it.
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So we do nothing and either vastly overpay cally or lose HIM for nothing?
:shakehead:shakehead:shakehead
 
BrooklynRangersFan said:
That's the thing - it's not the cost, it's the opportunity cost.

Even if Slats can get STL back in an even swap for Cally, that's not the trade he should be making. He should be selling Cally to StL (the team) or some other club for picks/prospects/young players. The reason I'll be incensed is that opportunity lost, not the addition of a 3rd round pick and Marek Hrivik (even though I am starting to have hopes for again as a prospect after watching him over the last month).
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Newsflash.....

The Rangers are 2nd in the division and aren't rebuilding......


If the Rangers are trading Callahan and/or Girardi they better get back NHL talent. This obsession with prospects (who often don't pan out) and late 1st round picks (that often don't pan out) is borderline crazy.

It's wrong to say anything can happen to the team but the whole basis of getting prospects and picks is ANYTHING CAN HAPPEN!

Bu bu but SoS we can't lose Callahan for nothing! So lets trade him for prospects and picks that very likely will turn into nothing.

The double standard on this board is really ridiculous. If fans want the current team to get better those fans are idiots because they aren't thinking long term.

Would MSL for Callahan make the Rangers better the rest of this year and next? Opportunity cost? The Rangers could possibly improve the team NOW, a team that isn't that far away and we are *****ing about opportunities....lost.....3 years from now....
 
GAGLine said:
My fear is that we'll trade Cally + for MSL, we won't get past the 2nd round either this year or next, and then MSL will retire. Then what are we left with? By trading for MSL, we are basically saying that we are going for the cup now. I hope it's worth it.
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This year and next.

Say the Blues trade Stewart, Jaskin, EDM 2nd for Cally.

Rangers turn around and trade Steward, Hrivik, EDM 2nd and NYR 2nd for MSL.

Rangers give up Callahan, Hrivik and a 2nd and get MSL, Jaskin.

Is that an okay day in Rangerland?
 
haveandare said:
Agree to disagree I guess. Seems like their offer is Stewart. I haven't heard anything about them offering their top prospects, who I'd imagine they value more than a guy who plays an underwhelming game in the spot Callahan would take.

Were Callahan and Backes that good together? I heard a lot of positives about them, but I didn't really see them do much that made me think their play seriously boosted Callahan's value.
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Yes, they played together very well.

As to the Blues offer, we've heard about what they offered over a month ago. What does it become as the clock starts to tick down...?
 
GAGLine said:
My fear is that we'll trade Cally + for MSL, we won't get past the 2nd round either this year or next, and then MSL will retire. Then what are we left with? By trading for MSL, we are basically saying that we are going for the cup now. I hope it's worth it.
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Its a legitimate fear and, no matter how this goes down, it still shows next to no interest in long-time foresight.

But then again, plenty people thing a soon-to-be 39 year old MSL has 4,5,6 great years left. How? Cause they say so.
 
shinchanyo said:
I didn't say anything stupid so you shouldn't have been aggravated. Unless you mean other people's stupidity or that you were being stupid at the time in thinking I was making a serious point.
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It was so long ago that I don't remember your original post to be honest, secondly I apologize if you have an issue with how I answered you and finally no I wasn't saying you were being stupid.

I probably mentioned that they were adults because you made it seem as if he was making a brash decision and/or could be swayed to change his mind because so and so wanted him to.

Next time if you're not being serious use the appropriate emoticon or else run the risk of being taken seriously.
 
Bleed Ranger Blue said:
Its a legitimate fear and, no matter how this goes down, it still shows next to no interest in long-time foresight.

But then again, plenty people thing a soon-to-be 39 year old MSL has 4,5,6 great years left. How? Cause they say so.
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FWIW, Duthie said earlier MSL wants to keep playing after his contract ends.
 
Bleed Ranger Blue said:
I havent seen one legitimate thought from you as to why you think this thing is so imminent. Just a gut feeling?

Brooks shot down a 1 for 1 swap for MSL. When you start adding assets, how appealing does this become to the Rangers?
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Ummm.... I dont know what you consider a legit thought.
Yeah, sure, call it a gut feeling. Based on about 400 emails LOL;
And actually, before I posted specifically 'not imminent'.
But just read the tea leaves, this baby is screaming deal, soon.
Movin' on! .....

it'd be very appealing to NYR if the added asset(s) are a conditional pick, which is only fair since Cally is unsigned and highly likely to bolt the Bolts. Could include a swap of some minor leaguers of the Bourque variety, which I dont think will upset too many too bad; it'll amount to some spring cleaning.
Some of these younger guys near the end of their ELCs and need a change of scenery.
 
Bleed Ranger Blue said:
Its a legitimate fear and, no matter how this goes down, it still shows next to no interest in long-time foresight.

But then again, plenty people thing a soon-to-be 39 year old MSL has 4,5,6 great years left. How? Cause they say so.
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It's not far-fetched speculation with how well he takes care of himself. I'd say that expecting St. Louis to be another Jagr, Selanne, etc is pretty fair and based in reality.
 
Mikos87 said:
This year and next.

Say the Blues trade Stewart, Jaskin, EDM 2nd for Cally.

Rangers turn around and trade Steward, Hrivik, EDM 2nd and NYR 2nd for MSL.

Rangers give up Callahan, Hrivik and a 2nd and get MSL, Jaskin.

Is that an okay day in Rangerland?
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I think so, because it provides for both the present and the future. I'm not sure we can swing that though. We'll see what happens I guess.
 
If MSL can give us 3-4 solid years, which I think is realistic, I'd be very happy.
 
The main board thread is just...so wrong. MSL is a guy who everyone always claims to love. He requests a trade late in his career and now he's selfish and spoiled.
 
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