E-Train
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He can score. 18 in 48 last year, 15 in 57 now. If the plus is a good prospect and/or pick its not a bad deal for a rental Callahan.
Speculation: Trade Rumor/Speculation Thread XXIII: Getcha' pitchforks ready.
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Nope, it's not. The goals per season and games per season stats in the post you quoted are incorrect. I would also agree that the part that you bolded is incorrect.
Jackpot
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His boss passed on him twice, the first time I could see him getting over it, but twice? Say's a lot about the way someone views you. Just to add my own speculation to that, maybe it's a combination of that and MSL taking advantage of the opportunity to get way closer to his family... He might really like the idea of going home almost all the time to be with his family as compared to an empty house. ...He's not in his twenties and at the stage of life he's in, family becomes a factor in everything..
As has been mentioned, it seems unlikely to just be a 1 for 1 - Cally for MSL.
Since we need to add more on our side (potentially) for the trade, Sather needs to be careful with asset management and not just throw away picks/prospects.
I love MSL and think having him for another year and a quarter would be beneficial.
Does anyone think this doesn't get resolved before Thursday's game? Because I can't see Callahan not going all out every game which puts him at risk of injuring himself and making it more difficult to trade him. I think Sather needs to decide if he sees the East as wide-open (outside of Pitt and Boston) and is going to stock up and make a run, or if he wants to sacrifice this year, identify a core and deal away any non-core pieces for picks/prospects. For the life of me I can't see Sather taking the latter route but, I think it might hinge on what gets done with Cally/G.
Since we need to add more on our side (potentially) for the trade, Sather needs to be careful with asset management and not just throw away picks/prospects.
I love MSL and think having him for another year and a quarter would be beneficial.
Does anyone think this doesn't get resolved before Thursday's game? Because I can't see Callahan not going all out every game which puts him at risk of injuring himself and making it more difficult to trade him. I think Sather needs to decide if he sees the East as wide-open (outside of Pitt and Boston) and is going to stock up and make a run, or if he wants to sacrifice this year, identify a core and deal away any non-core pieces for picks/prospects. For the life of me I can't see Sather taking the latter route but, I think it might hinge on what gets done with Cally/G.
Aside from having a bunch of already debunked points in it, yeah, it's spot on. C'mon, man.
If a team is convinced that his skill and leadership and work ethic takes them from Stanley Cup contender to favorite, they may give up pieces that project well but do not help them win this year, especially if Cally fills one of their spots in the lineup. Teams get intoxicated with the idea of being the team to beat on the road to the cup and overpay for rentals. St. Louis and Anaheim could fit this mold. We will see.
Clown Fiesta
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He's had 2 goals in his last 23 games, he went through a stretch at the end of last season where had had 4 goals in 22 games. He scores in bunches at times but then has ridiculous stretches of ineffectiveness.
I wouldn't go that far, then again I'm not you and I don't try and disagree with every statement ever made.
Only the silly ones.
Like how a couple of months of Callahan, who wants 7 years/$47M, is going to retrieve a bounty of riches for the Rangers
Clown Fiesta
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Go point out where I said that, oh you can't? Thanks for playing.
Not being satisfied with a return of Stewart + a prospect doesn't mean I think we should be getting a package of prime Gretzky + Lemiuex + Lidstrom. Maybe that's how your brain works... I'm not really sure, you're all over the place.
You lied about the stats of a solid NHL'er, which would be a fairly nice return.
Now that you've been made aware of his real #'s, do you think he'd be a suitable centerpiece? Or are you still reaching for the stars?
E-Train
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I don't disagree with saying he's streaky. If he was a big time scorer with an all around game he wouldn't be available. That said, I don't have a problem with taking on Stewart if there are good piece/pieces coming along with him.
The Gloaming
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Has anyone seen what Blues fans think about Stewart? Words like enigma and lazy are very often used to describe him. I think they would know; they watch his every game. He is not like Callahan. Don't let his big frame fool you.
Clown Fiesta
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No I made a mistake.
He's a marginal NHLer and that isn't hard to understand. A solid NHLer wouldn't go stretches of 20+ games only scoring 4 goals. I was never reaching for the stars, that is another assumption you made. You're not doing anything but making yourself look even worse by doing that.
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That sounds a lot like Callahan to me. Getting Stewart for Callahan is a pretty fair exchange when you consider Stewart's extra year is a decent value contractually. Stewart has size, scores well enough, and you're not getting a first liner back for Cally.
Stewart and a decent prospect or late 1st for Callahan is solid.
Clown Fiesta
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Exactly why I said the plus would have to be pretty good for me to be happy with the return, I'm not expecting a big time scorer but like I said there are less inconsistent players of similar value. Are they available? Who knows.
Yeah imagine the backlash if he was a Euro.
Great. So, go ahead and enlighten me. Whats a suitable return in your eyes?
Should also see what they said about Perron, or what some Rangers fans were saying about Lundqvist and Girardi earlier this year. Point being, trusting the fans on this board to get an accurate opinion of anything is almost a total waste of time.
Clown Fiesta
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It's not the value of the return I am unhappy with it's the player. If you don't understand that by now I don't know what else to say.
The Gloaming
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The Lundqvist bashers of this year should not be taken seriously under any circumstances. Perron looks re-invigorated with a new team. Good for him. I'm not sure Stewart will do the same.
Bluenote13
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Agreed.
Whenever we sign, draft, trade for a player, who shows up on our board a minute later? That players biggest fans, followed by his biggest detractors, and vice versa.
NoQuitInNewMexico
it's okay cause it's all just the way it should be
Stewart's not a great player but he wouldn't be a bad fit here, we're a pretty smurfy team. That's not the end of the world but it's a bad omen in a lot of potential playoff series. AV's done good work with Pouliot; he's not floating and he's playing a north-south game on a line that works.
We'd also get a decent prospect component, though I'd hope it's a player who is closer to becoming a Ranger than a late first round pick would be.
We'd also get a decent prospect component, though I'd hope it's a player who is closer to becoming a Ranger than a late first round pick would be.
From SNY blog
11:08AM: “I think he would like to get traded and…I’m not sure this came out of the blue that as soon as he didn’t make the team right away….I think this has always been in his mind. I haven’t spoken to Marty a ton the past few years but I used to know him well before and his wife is from the Connecticut area and he always talked about wanting to get back East, somewhere like the Rangers to play. I was kind of surprised when he signed his last deal with Tampa Bay because of that, maybe Stamkos was a major factor in that. I always thought he wanted to end his career up this way somehow and so, I would just be guessing but I have a feeling that it was already in his mind that he was working towards that and then when this happened it may have pushed him over the edge. The question is going to be with Yzerman and if he doesn’t get some fair value, this is a predicament because you are a team that is suddenly and somewhat surprisingly a legitimate contender in the East. I think that if he doesn’t get traded then he will be fine because we showed the way that he played after the snub that he will be just fine but I kind of think that he would like to go and I don’t think it’s changed that he was on the team.†(James Duthie on TSN 1050′s Macko and Cauz)
He added, “if it is just because of the snubbing then I don’t think it’s right. To be asked to be traded out of a team, I think that is….I hope he has other reasons he wants out if that is the case because I think you would regret a decision like that, that your GM left you off a team that is incredibly hard to make. To me that is a little much.â€(James Duthie on TSN 1050′s Macko and Cauz)
11:08AM: “I think he would like to get traded and…I’m not sure this came out of the blue that as soon as he didn’t make the team right away….I think this has always been in his mind. I haven’t spoken to Marty a ton the past few years but I used to know him well before and his wife is from the Connecticut area and he always talked about wanting to get back East, somewhere like the Rangers to play. I was kind of surprised when he signed his last deal with Tampa Bay because of that, maybe Stamkos was a major factor in that. I always thought he wanted to end his career up this way somehow and so, I would just be guessing but I have a feeling that it was already in his mind that he was working towards that and then when this happened it may have pushed him over the edge. The question is going to be with Yzerman and if he doesn’t get some fair value, this is a predicament because you are a team that is suddenly and somewhat surprisingly a legitimate contender in the East. I think that if he doesn’t get traded then he will be fine because we showed the way that he played after the snub that he will be just fine but I kind of think that he would like to go and I don’t think it’s changed that he was on the team.†(James Duthie on TSN 1050′s Macko and Cauz)
He added, “if it is just because of the snubbing then I don’t think it’s right. To be asked to be traded out of a team, I think that is….I hope he has other reasons he wants out if that is the case because I think you would regret a decision like that, that your GM left you off a team that is incredibly hard to make. To me that is a little much.â€(James Duthie on TSN 1050′s Macko and Cauz)
If we got Stewart, I feel like he would be truely hated by Rangers fans shorly thereafter, ala Wolski.
He is such a frusturating player.
We'd go from having a guy with arguably the most consistent work ethic in the league, to having a guy who is the complete opposite.
He is such a frusturating player.
We'd go from having a guy with arguably the most consistent work ethic in the league, to having a guy who is the complete opposite.
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