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HF Habs: Trade Proposal Thread 92 Waiting on the DRAFT Edition

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Sorinth said:
I don't buy that, there have been plenty of lines in the NHL that have had lots of success without a player with Plekanec's level of defensive.
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Yes, there's success and then there's optimizing a line. We don't need whatever 2C we can get and say oh well, it is what it is. We aren't due to compete for the cup for another couple seasons, find the right fit, not just any fit that can be successful.

Leafs have two lines that are successful. Except when they're not.
 
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GlassesJacketShirt said:
Marco Rossi will likely be traded this summer per Michael Russo. I'd be very interested in finding out the price.
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Loves to be around the net and is solid defensively. Regardless of size, I’d take him over Zegras any day of the week. He plays harder and is more engaged physically. If he was an inch taller, I don’t think he’d be considered available.

We’ll be small but I think we could make up for it elsewhere. With Demidov in mind, Rossi’s shown he can play with and without Kaprizov AND be effective whether or not he gets a lot of PP time. I’ll take a borderline 1C that’s 23yo and good at both ends if he’s available.
 
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bleuetbio said:
Realu doubtful. Its not like Eriksson-Ek is providing a lot of offense. Even if, Rossi isnt the kind of center we're looking for but its better than Dach
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if wild trade him, it will be for a better C. he's also seeking 9 to 10 mil per year and won't budge. He has the worst agent ever and he won't butdge.
 
Draft said:
Loves to be around the net and is solid defensively. Regardless of size, I’d take him over Zegras any day of the week. He plays harder and is more engaged physically. If he was an inch taller, I don’t think he’d be considered available.

We’ll be small but I think we could make up for it elsewhere. With Demidov in mind, Rossi’s shown he can play with and without Kaprizov AND be effective whether or not he gets a lot of PP time. I’ll take a borderline 1C that’s 23yo and good at both ends if he’s available.
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if he continues to seek 9 to 10 mil per year and seeking to be paid more than boldy, he will be, but it will be in a package for a better C. wild aren't the type of team that seeks picks or prospects. They are looking for a Better C. Montreal doesn't have the pieces to get him
 
Hockeyfan200 said:
if he continues to seek 9 to 10 mil per year and seeking to be paid more than boldy, he will be, but it will be in a package for a better C. wild aren't the type of team that seeks picks or prospects. They are looking for a Better C. Montreal doesn't have the pieces to get him
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Good candidate for an offer sheet if there are contract concerns. Habs can move low-salary, NHL-ready players or young NHLers if picks alone aren’t interesting.

Wild aren’t getting a better C in a trade. No team is trading their top line center for a 5’9, largely unproven, 8-9mil forward. No team is going to trade an equivalent player without size issues just for the sake of it. No team is going to value him or build around him as a 1C because of his size. Not much different than how Caufield is viewed as a top line winger* but not in the same way Boldy is - maybe worse given Rossi’s a center. I’m not saying it’s the right way to approach things but it’s part of why he’s available at all.
 
Draft said:
Good candidate for an offer sheet if there are contract concerns. Habs can move low-salary, NHL-ready players or young NHLers if picks alone aren’t interesting.

Wild aren’t getting a better C in a trade. No team is trading their top line center for a 5’9, largely unproven, 8-9mil forward. No team is going to trade an equivalent player without size issues just for the sake of it. No team is going to value him or build around him as a 1C because of his size. Not much different than how Caufield is viewed as a top line winger* but not in the same way Boldy is - maybe worse given Rossi’s a center. I’m not saying it’s the right way to approach things but it’s part of why he’s available at all.
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He's become a really good top 2c. lol. wild aren't letting him get offersheet at anything below 9 or 10 mil. They will match. wild aren't going to move him or let him go unless he's a part of a bigger trade for a better C. Wild have already offered him 7-8mil. Nothing montreal has will get him because wild don't need D or wingers or bottom C. Wild already have a top prospect pool also. They aren't trying to get picks for him.

Part of why he's available is because of his agent and how much he's asking and nothing more. wild love him but aren't going to pay him that significant of a money when they can use him in a bigger package
 
Hockeyfan200 said:
He's become a really good top 2c. lol. wild aren't letting him get offersheet at anything below 9 or 10 mil. They will match. wild aren't going to move him or let him go unless he's a part of a bigger trade for a better C. Wild have already offered him 7-8mil. Nothing montreal has will get him because wild don't need D or wingers or bottom C. Wild already have a top prospect pool also. They aren't trying to get picks for him.

Part of why he's available is because of his agent and how much he's asking and nothing more. wild love him but aren't going to pay him that significant of a money when they can use him in a bigger package
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Name one top-20 center that a team would move for Rossi.

When it becomes obvious that doesn’t work anywhere outside of fan imagination, decide if you’re willing to pay Rossi 8-9mil. If the answer to that is no, you’ll likely hope to get peak asset value in a trade that doesn’t just net short term gain. The best way to do that is with the type of assets MTL holds.

I don’t think he should be traded at all. Guerin seems to think differently and may prioritize not getting tied into a big contract with this type of player.
 
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I'm still pissed the Sens got Cozens instead of us. He was the perfect age for our rebuild, his hits per season is going up exponentially as he matures, his faceoff stats are improving every season, he has good size, has shown 30 goal and 70 point potential.

But if it's true that they were asking for Caufield or Slaf I wouldn't have done it either.
 
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Draft said:
Name one top-20 center that a team would move for Rossi.

When it becomes obvious that doesn’t work anywhere outside of fan imagination, decide if you’re willing to pay Rossi 8-9mil. If the answer to that is no, you’ll likely hope to get peak asset value in a trade that doesn’t just net short term gain. The best way to do that is with the type of assets MTL holds.

I don’t think he should be traded at all. Guerin seems to think differently and may prioritize not getting tied into a big contract with this type of player.
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again, MN wild are looking at the now , not future. They are going all out including targeting hometown player's brock nelson and Boeser in free agency. with due respect, none of us fans know who is available or will get traded. They were going after Dylan Cozens are interested in Tage Thompson. Arizona / Utah was also interested in trading for Rossi and will be again because he's former coach is there. Nothing beside picks will interest wild from Montreal. Logan Cooley could also be available as he's a Minnesota born player. Wild have a GM and owner who will never look at the long term especially with Kaprizov and will committing 18 to 19 mil to him this summer
 
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again, MN wild are looking at the now , not future. They are going all out including targeting hometown player's brock nelson and Boeser in free agency. with due respect, none of us fans know who is available or will get traded. They were going after Dylan Cozens are interested in Tage Thompson. Arizona / Utah was also interested in trading for Rossi and will be again because he's former coach is there. Nothing beside picks will interest wild from Montreal. Logan Cooley could also be available as he's a Minnesota born player. Wild have a GM and owner who will never look at the long term especially with Kaprizov and will committing 18 to 19 mil to him this summer
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It’s true, we don’t know who’s available. However, none of those teams have a top line center to trade for Rossi. Why would Utah swap Cooley for Rossi and his new contract?

If it’s about win-now, then sign Nelson and Boeser, recoup assets and get cost controlled young players to better manage the cap with a Rossi trade. Absolutely the kind of weird, short-sighted moves Guérin would be into.
 
A while back, a poster here (I forget who) argued that the Blues were close to needing to rebuild, and that the Habs should offer a lot of picks and prospects for Robert Thomas.

Well, not quite.
 
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Skip Bayless said:


IB definitely knows something.
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Rookies aren't allowed to miss optional skates. It's only optional for veteran players.

Rookies are expected to use that time to work on their skills, and their game. Healthy scratches like Pezzetta and Struble (for most of the year) are also expected to participate in optionals.
 
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Scintillating10 said:
Would you offer sheet Rossi? From Austria could be a bonus with Reinbacher arriving next season
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No.
A- Wild have a ton of cap space in the summer, saving 13M on buyouts of Parise and Suter.
B- Rossi is not the right player, too small. People still forget that we are trying to build Stanley cup contending team, not playoff participant. All those suggestions of Rossi, Zegras or Marner are crazy. Those players do not win you playoff series.
 
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BergevinBurner said:
I'm still pissed the Sens got Cozens instead of us. He was the perfect age for our rebuild, his hits per season is going up exponentially as he matures, his faceoff stats are improving every season, he has good size, has shown 30 goal and 70 point potential.

But if it's true that they were asking for Caufield or Slaf I wouldn't have done it either.
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Norris is worth considerably less than either of Caufield or Slaf as he is severely damaged goods and Buffalo deserve the position that they are in due to dumb trades like this one.
 
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Estimated_Prophet said:
Norris is worth considerably less than either of Caufield or Slaf as he is severely damaged goods and Buffalo deserve the position that they are in due to dumb trades like this one.
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Also, Cozens ain't all that. The guy they'll get this summer will be as good or better.
 
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