HF Habs: Trade Proposal Thread 92 Waiting on the DRAFT Edition

[SuzukiSZN]

Hage certainly could be sacrifice in a trade for a 2nd line center that fit with the core age of the team.

Buffalo is imploding. Maybe Thompson could be pry from them

Most of the core are between 19-21. Demidov, Slaf, Hutson, Reinbacher.

Why would you trade your only top 6 prospect (with Demidov).

 

[Schooner Guy]

I agree Hage isn't an untouchable.

Honestly, I believe the untouchables are:

Prospects: Demidov & Fowler
AHL: Reinbacher
NHL: Suzuki, Caufield, Slaf, Guhle & Hutson.

The guys who are not untouchables, but it would take one hell of a deal to move them: Hage, Beck and Florian.

I think the Habs would even trade a player from your untouchables list if it secured us a bonafide true #2 center they are high on. Any trade partner will be looking for a high quality player in return.

 

[Whitesnake]

If the idea is to make a BIG trade. A game chanding trade. On top of 1st rounders, who has value?
Who REALLY has value in the Habs prospects:

Tier Insane and he's not going anywhere
Demidov

Tier 1
Hage
Fowler
Reinbacher

Tier 2
Mailloux
Beck
Kapanen

You will have to ship out a minimum of 1 Tier 1 prospect. If not 2 depending. you are not getting a top C with 2 Tier 2 prospects. Not in my opinion.

As far the already NHL'ers...if you touch somebody....you need a replacemenet at the SAME position. you are then not improving. UNLESS the guess is that we determined that Guhle is Josh Norris. But you need a left d-man then. Everyboyd else is not going anywhere. NOBODY wants Dach unless you give him away or ship him under value.

so I guess you could trade this....Guhle / Hage / Mailloux for a C and a LD.....if not 1st round / Hage / Mailloux could get you a real good C. But then it has to come from a team who is rebuilding.

 

[Schooner Guy]

If the idea is to make a BIG trade. A game chanding trade. On top of 1st rounders, who has value?
Who REALLY has value in the Habs prospects:

Tier Insane and he's not going anywhere
Demidov

Tier 1
Hage
Fowler
Reinbacher

Tier 2
Mailloux
Beck
Kapanen

You will have to ship out a minimum of 1 Tier 1 prospect. If not 2 depending. you are not getting a top C with 2 Tier 2 prospects. Not in my opinion.

I wonder if a Guhle or a Caufield will need to be traded to land that true top 6 C. I know it creates another gaping hole but we're going to need to give something that hurts. Acquiring a top center is extremely difficult and we've done alright in recent weeks without Guhle.

 

[Whitesnake]

I wonder if a Guhle or a Caufield will need to be traded to land that true top 6 C. I know it creates another gaping hole but we're going to need to give something that hurts. Acquiring a top center is extremely difficult and we've done alright in recent weeks without Guhle.

I did add Guhle in my post too.....but somehow, you have to somehow get a LD.

 

[Saundies]

I wonder if a Guhle or a Caufield will need to be traded to land that true top 6 C. I know it creates another gaping hole but we're going to need to give something that hurts. Acquiring a top center is extremely difficult and we've done alright in recent weeks without Guhle.

Suzuki is a top C and our first line C. All we need is a second line C (and we are experts at getting/developing those -- we've done it for 30 years now) and they don't cost nearly as much as a top C.

On the current team:

Top line stays
I'd keep Guhle -- anyone else can go from D (EDIT: Forgot about Hutson.. keep him too obviously).

Untouchable Prospects IMO:
Demidov
MAYBE Hage just because he plays C.

All picks are on the table.

If we can't make a deal for a top 62 C (or close) without trading those guys, our team is truly washed. Our system is one of the best in the league.

 

[Benstheman]

I think the Habs would even trade a player from your untouchables list if it secured us a bonafide true #2 center they are high on. Any trade partner will be looking for a high quality player in return.

Demidov, Suzuki and Hutson are clearly untouchables.

Reinbacher is not but at this point he is somewhat of an unknown asset. If you trade him, you don't get fair value right now. So you keep him, hope injuries stop and he reaches his ceiling.

Fowler should be untouchable imo but not sure he really is for a young 2C. Would you trade him for Lundell in Florida? They just traded their goalie of the future and might need cap relief next season. I think I'd do it but would draft Ravensbergen with one of our 1st pick.

Caufield, Slaf and Guhle should be available but only if we go for a 1C or top pair RHD.

 

[Ozmodiar]

Hage certainly could be sacrifice in a trade for a 2nd line center that fit with the core age of the team.

Buffalo is imploding. Maybe Thompson could be pry from them

If they were gonna tear it down, why ask for Norris?

Tough to find a solid deal for Hage that also makes sense for the other team.

We’d acquire older player, maybe not as much upside, save money for other team.

Lundell? could make sense if Fla wants to sign both Ekblad and Bennett, save 5M.

Kyrou? Winger, but good talent (speed) injection.

For Hage, I’d like a core piece, but it takes unusual circumstances to make them available.

 

[Schooner Guy]

I did add Guhle in my post too.....but somehow, you have to somehow get a LD.

Yes...absolutely. We would need to make a higher scale Barron for Carrier type of trade. Maybe include a 1st.

 

[Benstheman]

I wonder if a Guhle or a Caufield will need to be traded to land that true top 6 C. I know it creates another gaping hole but we're going to need to give something that hurts. Acquiring a top center is extremely difficult and we've done alright in recent weeks without Guhle.

Imo, Caufield and Guhle are pieces you keep unless it's in a package for a top pair RHD to play with Hutson long term or a 1C. Because at this point, they are as important to the club as a 2C.

 

[Benstheman]

If they were gonna tear it down, why ask for Norris?

Tough to find a solid deal for Hage that also makes sense for the other team.

We’d acquire older player, maybe not as much upside, save money for other team.

Lundell? could make sense if Fla wants to sign both Ekblad and Bennett, save 5M.

Kyrou? Winger, but good talent (speed) injection.

For Hage, I’d like a core piece, but it takes unusual circumstances to make them available.

Would you trade Fowler for Lundell?

Florida just traded Knight and Bobrovski is 36 yo.

 

[Schooner Guy]

Fowler should be untouchable imo but not sure he really is for a young 2C. Would you trade him for Lundell in Florida? They just traded their goalie of the future and might need cap relief next season. I think I'd do it but would draft Ravensbergen with one of our 1st pick.

Yes...in a nanosecond. Even the most hyped up goalies (Askarov, Wallstedt etc) take years of development at the pro level and then we still don't know if they are sure things until they reach their mid-20s. And then teams stumble upon the likes of Logan Thompson, Montembeault, Adin Hill. Binnington was in the ECHL before winning a Cup and a 4-Nations gold.

Florida has invested a lot in Lundell and gone through the growing pains. If they lose Bennett, I can't see Lundell ever being available.

 

[Gaylord Q Tinkledink]

Yeah if they extend Bennett and let Ekblad go, they might have to let salary goes and go 1-Barkov, 2-Bennett, 3-Rodrigues next season.

A trade around Lundell and Mailloux could make sense if they see Mailloux as NHL ready and a potential top 4 RHD for them in the future. We would need to add a 1st pick to Mailloux value wise.

Ekblad's been replaced by Jones.

Unless Ekblad wants to take a discount, he's gone.

 

[Benstheman]

Yes...in a nanosecond. Even the most hyped up goalies (Askarov, Wallstedt etc) take years of development at the pro level and then we still don't know if they are sure things until they reach their mid-20s. And then teams stumble upon the likes of Logan Thompson, Montembeault, Adin Hill. Binnington was in the ECHL before winning a Cup and a 4-Nations gold.

Florida has invested a lot in Lundell and gone through the growing pains. If they lose Bennett, I can't see Lundell ever being available.

Yeah off course they keep him if Bennett walks. But if Bennett is extended, he might be disponible.

 

[Benstheman]

Ekblad's been replaced by Jones.

Unless Ekblad wants to take a discount, he's gone.

If he signs, they are at 94M$ with one forward, 1 Dman and a back up to sign. I'm pretty sure he is gone.

If they don't sign him, they are at about 86 M$ but they still have to get a top 4 RHD + the 3 players listed above. It's going to be very tight even in that case.

 

[Benstheman]

Ekblad's been replaced by Jones.

Unless Ekblad wants to take a discount, he's gone.

They will be up against the cap even if he walks. They will want to replace him as they are very thin on the right side.

 

[HuGo Sham]

Hughes said they would consider overpaying in a trade he also said that they'd consider short term placeholders and didn't want to regret some insane 8 year overpayment.
They certainly don't know what's on the table yet and won't until someone possibly chokes out of the playoffs.

If they're getting a high profile placeholder, I still can't see them moving Hage, regardless of what blowhard Brunet says.
They should also resist moving Florian if they can.

 

[vokiel]

Hughes said they would consider overpaying in a trade he also said that they'd consider short term placeholders and didn't want to regret some insane 8 year overpayment.
They certainly don't know what's on the table yet and won't until someone possibly chokes out of the playoffs.

If they're getting a high profile placeholder, I still can't see them moving Hage, regardless of what blowhard Brunet says.
They should also resist moving Florian if they can.

You know.. 8 years implies that the player was already playing for the team, otherwise it's 7.

So I wouldn't put much trust in what Hughes said, or what people say he said.

 

[LaP]

Would you trade Fowler for Lundell?

Florida just traded Knight and Bobrovski is 36 yo.

That's a trade we do in a heartbeat. Highly doubt Florida does that though.

 

[Doublechin]

I agree Hage isn't an untouchable.

Honestly, I believe the untouchables are:

Prospects: Demidov & Fowler
AHL: Reinbacher
NHL: Suzuki, Caufield, Slaf, Guhle & Hutson.

The guys who are not untouchables, but it would take one hell of a deal to move them: Hage, Beck and Florian.

I don't know how anyone has Guhle as an untouchable anymore after the consistent injury issues he's had

If he's the price to pay for a 2C, I jump on it

 

[HomaridII]

 

[SuzukiSZN]

Lmao, that fraud.

 

[Saundies]

Gotta think it would be Reinbacher ++ for Dobson

 

[Benstheman]

Ok

 

[Pat Riot]

If they were gonna tear it down, why ask for Norris?

Tough to find a solid deal for Hage that also makes sense for the other team.

We’d acquire older player, maybe not as much upside, save money for other team.

Lundell? could make sense if Fla wants to sign both Ekblad and Bennett, save 5M.

Kyrou? Winger, but good talent (speed) injection.

For Hage, I’d like a core piece, but it takes unusual circumstances to make them available.

You never know with Buffalo. Norris is already injured, maybe the are ready to sell Thompson for a king ransom. Lundell would be interesting and cheaper to acquired than Tage