HF Habs: Trade Proposal Thread 92 Waiting on the DRAFT Edition

[Benstheman]

Lundell would make a lot of sense if Florida resign Sam Bennett. They could need a young RD and there pick pool is very low

Yeah if they extend Bennett and let Ekblad go, they might have to let salary goes and go 1-Barkov, 2-Bennett, 3-Rodrigues next season.

A trade around Lundell and Mailloux could make sense if they see Mailloux as NHL ready and a potential top 4 RHD for them in the future. We would need to add a 1st pick to Mailloux value wise.

 

[Rapala]

I'm not so sure why people think we are going to be making a splash in the UFA market.
What we are looking for is a cost controlled asset regardless of term. That doesn't sound like a high end UFA to me. Kent Hughes has been working with over-priced long term assets since he took over. He isn't going to take on a new one with the terms and clauses that invariably comes with it.

Our long term solution at 2C is probably already in the fold.
I wouldn't write off Demidov as being that player and all he needs is a proper mentor.
It seems to me we have a certain Nick Suzuki who is exactly that.

There is absolutely nothing stopping Demidov from becoming a center iceman other than some pre-conceived notions. Two years is far more runway than a player of his talent needs to nail down that role.

 

[Adriatic]

I'm all for Kyrou. That's a player that can really help with the offense, even if he's on the wing. Having someone on your Top-6 who can score anywhere between 25-35 goals and between 65-75 pts as has been the trend he's on since he's been a full-time NHL'er can really propell the Habs to another level.

As you mentioned, after this year, he has 6 years left on his deal at an $8.125M AAV. He turns 27 in a few weeks.

Speaking of Kyrou, on the Sick Podcast, Eric Engels mentioned a week ago Jordan Kyrou as someone Habs could target. He added that he's just giving him as an example. But part of me thinks that maybe he has some knowledge, whether Habs get him or not, it's possible he mentioned him because he's heard his name.

Chances are Engels has no knowledge of anything lol

 

[Schooner Guy]

He's rejected offers to extend multiple times and has been benched, apparently, because of this. He's dying to come to NA so I'd be SHOCKED and amazed if he didn't bolt the second he could. This also comes from several other people in Russia, coaches, team mates etc.

He's coming, baby!

It's clear he wants to come over and I'm guardedly optimistic but I won't consider it a done deal until he signs with the Habs. The world is a bizarre place right now.

 

[le_sean]

I'm not so sure why people think we are going to be making a splash in the UFA market.
What we are looking for is a cost controlled asset regardless of term. That doesn't sound like a high end UFA to me. Kent Hughes has been working with over-priced long term assets since he took over. He isn't going to take on a new one with the terms and clauses that invariably comes with it.

Our long term solution at 2C is probably already in the fold.
I wouldn't write off Demidov as being that player and all he needs is a proper mentor.
It seems to me we have a certain Nick Suzuki who is exactly that.

There is absolutely nothing stopping Demidov from becoming a center iceman other than some pre-conceived notions. Two years is far more runway than a player of his talent needs to nail down that role.

If they are trading Kyrou, I’d rather just pay more to get Robert Thomas. At least he’s a centre.

 

[Schooner Guy]

I'm not so sure why people think we are going to be making a splash in the UFA market.
What we are looking for is a cost controlled asset regardless of term. That doesn't sound like a high end UFA to me. Kent Hughes has been working with over-priced long term assets since he took over. He isn't going to take on a new one with the terms and clauses that invariably comes with it.

Our long term solution at 2C is probably already in the fold.
I wouldn't write off Demidov as being that player and all he needs is a proper mentor.
It seems to me we have a certain Nick Suzuki who is exactly that.

There is absolutely nothing stopping Demidov from becoming a center iceman other than some pre-conceived notions. Two years is far more runway than a player of his talent needs to nail down that role.

I want Demidov at his best and where he's more comfortable as he adjusts to a new style of hockey. I don't want to mess with this asset by trying put a square peg in a round hole. Let him play to his strengths.

We have all kinds of assets to trade for a true #2 center. It's time to do it even if it's an overpayment.

 

[Rapala]

If they are trading Kyrou, I’d rather just pay more to get Robert Thomas. At least he’s a centre.

Agreed. Robert Thomas is a cost controlled player and there is an advantage to having that contract in place. I'm specifically talking about the UFA market which from my take becomes uncontrolled cost once you engage in it.

 

[Rapala]

I want Demidov at his best and where he's more comfortable as he adjusts to a new style of hockey. I don't want to mess with this asset by trying put a square peg in a round hole. Let him play to his strengths.

We have all kinds of assets to trade for a true #2 center. It's time to do it even if it's an overpayment.

That is your pre conceived notion and thank you for confirming what I'm talking about. Demidov himself has said he is very comfortable playing the middle do you doubt him?
We wouldn't be foisting a role on him but allowing him to possibly grow into a role over a couple of seasons while playing him on a wing. It's not even close to being the same thing. We'd be kind of stupid not to explore every avenue available for him with the talent he possesses. I'm not going to be the one to say he can't do it.

 

[Erika]

He's rejected offers to extend multiple times and has been benched, apparently, because of this. He's dying to come to NA so I'd be SHOCKED and amazed if he didn't bolt the second he could. This also comes from several other people in Russia, coaches, team mates etc.

He's coming, baby!

Never say never ! I don't know why, but I love that expression lol.

What if SKA offers him a 8 years × 8 millions/year contract ? Money talks and there's still a chance he decides to sign with them. Until he officially signs with the Habs, can't take anything for granted, especially with those KHL shenanigans

 

[Sterling Archer]

Never say never ! I don't know why, but I love that expression lol.

What if SKA offers him a 8 years × 8 millions/year contract ? Money talks and there's still a chance he decides to sign with them. Until he officially signs with the Habs, can't take anything for granted, especially with those KHL shenanigans

Not possible. KHL has a $10M salary cap for the team, with the highest paid players make a little over $1M per year.

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[therocket9]

Yeah if they extend Bennett and let Ekblad go, they might have to let salary goes and go 1-Barkov, 2-Bennett, 3-Rodrigues next season.

A trade around Lundell and Mailloux could make sense if they see Mailloux as NHL ready and a potential top 4 RHD for them in the future. We would need to add a 1st pick to Mailloux value wise.

Seth Jones will also be on the books next year at 7 million and the Verhaeghe pay raise kicks in next year.

 

[sampollock]

Kent Hughes is preparing a BIG trade to get a second center this summer. David Reinbacher is IMPOSSIBLE to be sacrificed, but Logan Mailloux or Michael Hage could be sacrificed, according to Mathias Brunet." - Via BPM Sports

 

[Treb]

Kent Hughes is preparing a BIG trade to get a second center this summer. David Reinbacher is IMPOSSIBLE to be sacrificed, but Logan Mailloux or Michael Hage could be sacrificed, according to Mathias Brunet." - Via BPM Sports

If Hage goes, it's going to be someone that will be there mid/long-term, not a stopgap.

 

[Miller Time]

If Hage goes, it's going to be someone that will be there mid/long-term, not a stopgap.

Yeah, and while no player is untouchable, I suspect that Hage, RB & Demidov are all off the table unless some GM goes off the deep end and offers a return KH can't refuse.

 

[habamillions]

Another Hughes quotes

“We’d be remiss if we missed the window while we have an elite two-way centreman like Nick Suzuki driving our team,” said Hughes"

We are going into win now mode next year. Especially with the entire first line on team friendly deals, Demidov and Hutson still on ELC's. Summer is going to be fireworks.

That was always the issue with bergevin he never made the key addition. He was proud that he never traded a 1st round pick. Look at where those picks were and who was drafted most were duds. Hopefully hughes does a bwtter job and helping the current core

 

[Beendair Donedat]

Kent Hughes is preparing a BIG trade to get a second center this summer. David Reinbacher is IMPOSSIBLE to be sacrificed, but Logan Mailloux or Michael Hage could be sacrificed, according to Mathias Brunet." - Via BPM Sports

He’s not trading Hage. He’s looking for an established second line center, not giving the only potential one we have in the system away that we just drafted less than a year ago.

And Matthias Brunet is possibly the worst evaluator of talent in the Montreal media and that’s impressive, because so many of them are terrible. He’s the guy who was trading Caufield for 6th overall last year. He’s about as plugged in as a North American appliance in a European power outlet.

 

[Pat Riot]

He’s not trading Hage. He’s looking for an established second line center, not giving the only potential one we have in the system away that we just drafted less than a year ago.

And Matthias Brunet is possibly the worst evaluator of talent in the Montreal media and that’s impressive, because so many of them are terrible. He’s the guy who was trading Caufield for 6th overall last year. He’s about as plugged in as a North American appliance in a European power outlet.

Hage certainly could be sacrifice in a trade for a 2nd line center that fit with the core age of the team.

Buffalo is imploding. Maybe Thompson could be pry from them

 

[HabsWhiteKnightLOL]

Matthew Knies is a winger we can target this summer.
6’3”227 LW age 22, he’s an RFA and Toronto resigning Marner.

Depending on Sean Monahan we can circle back $5.5 mil for a second line center is a bargain.

Slafkovsky Suzuki Caufield
Demidov Monahan Laine
Knies Newhook Dach
Heineman Beck Evans
Kapanen

We need to unload Gallagher and Anderson

Yuck Monahan

 

[The Gr8 Dane]

Don't see the issue with dealing Hage+++++ if it's for a real cost controled 2C.


J'ai confiance en Hughes

 

[Pompeius Magnus]

Hage is such an awesome feel good story, I expect they'd rather trade almost anyone else not named Demidov. But if it's for a true homerun you can't rule anyone out I guess.

 

[The Gr8 Dane]

Hage is such an awesome feel good story, I expect they'd rather trade almost anyone else not named Demidov. But if it's for a true homerun you can't rule anyone out I guess.

Trust me , If Hage is dealt it won't be for a Dach or a Cozens , It's gonna be for something where we say . Oh , that makes sense. Something cost controlled at a decent age

 

[Adam Michaels]

Don't see the issue with dealing Hage+++++ if it's for a real cost controled 2C.


J'ai confiance en Hughes

I agree Hage isn't an untouchable.

Honestly, I believe the untouchables are:

Prospects: Demidov & Fowler
AHL: Reinbacher
NHL: Suzuki, Caufield, Slaf, Guhle & Hutson.

The guys who are not untouchables, but it would take one hell of a deal to move them: Hage, Beck and Florian.

 

[TheBuriedHab]

I'm all for Kyrou. That's a player that can really help with the offense, even if he's on the wing. Having someone on your Top-6 who can score anywhere between 25-35 goals and between 65-75 pts as has been the trend he's on since he's been a full-time NHL'er can really propell the Habs to another level.

As you mentioned, after this year, he has 6 years left on his deal at an $8.125M AAV. He turns 27 in a few weeks.

Speaking of Kyrou, on the Sick Podcast, Eric Engels mentioned a week ago Jordan Kyrou as someone Habs could target. He added that he's just giving him as an example. But part of me thinks that maybe he has some knowledge, whether Habs get him or not, it's possible he mentioned him because he's heard his name.

St Louis makes a lot of sense to me as a trading partner. Look at their draft pick situation this upcoming draft. 1 1st round pick, 0 2nd round pick, 0 3rd round pick and 0 4th round pick. With a new GM coming in for them, maybe he wants to stock up on picks.

 

[Ozmodiar]

I'm not so sure why people think we are going to be making a splash in the UFA market.
What we are looking for is a cost controlled asset regardless of term. That doesn't sound like a high end UFA to me.

Did Hughes say this?

I could see them kicking the tires on Marner if he’s available. Gorton signed Panarin, long term. This would be a similar move.

Add elite talent and build from there.

 

[Schooner Guy]

That is your pre conceived notion and thank you for confirming what I'm talking about. Demidov himself has said he is very comfortable playing the middle do you doubt him?

Playing center at the NHL level is a whole different can of worms than playing brief stints at the position in the MHL. He has played the wing this entire season in the KHL.

Playing center in the NHL takes years even for purely seasoned centers at all other levels. I want him to focus on what he does best when he comes here. He'll have a gazillion other things to adjust to both in terms of hockey and life.