The question about Bennett is whether Demidov and Laine can be good enough to mitigate a decline in production. If he can bring the grit and defence, as long as he can finish feeds from Demi we might be okay
HF Habs: Trade Proposal Thread #92: Waiting on the Draft edition
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Vachon23
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Laine won’t be here in 2026-27
For Demidov, I actually think he’s gonna play with Suzuki
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Sterling Archer
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Personally, I have no idea who would be available but thay doesn’t mean there aren’t any out there.
We see them moved every year for a myriad of reasons. Cap/roster space, ask for a trade, etc. May not even be able to get one but I think it’s a key position to fill, even more so than a 2nd line center.
HuGort
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Not the answer I was expecting. I figured this Habs board would jump at chance to get Desnoyers or Frondell
CHfan1
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I don’t think we see a lot of #1 right shot defenceman moved every year. Teams typically try to keep them. I think it’ll be tougher to trade for a #1 right shot defenceman than a #2 centreman.
“Much Easier to Acquire in the Offseason”: Canadiens Expected to Address Center Depth This Summer
The Canadiens avoided deadline chaos but are set to be aggressive this summer. Could a top-6 center push them into playoff contention?
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Totally agree it's a key role to fill, but I don't think they get traded nearly as often as you suggest...
I don't recall any 1RDs getting traded last summer unless you count Marino to Utah (more 2RD than 1RD)
The only one I can think of in the last year:
Jones to Fla
UFA route can be an option, but slim pickings this year & next... Maybe Pionk (also not really a 1RD) whom Gorton drafted in NY.
Beyond that, Ekblad (meh) & Andersson/Carlson the following year (neither will be very age appealing to pay UFA premium to attract).
If KH manages to figure something out, it will be a shrewd piece of work. More likely I think -IF he isn't content to roll with what we have and let the kids (RB, Mailloux, Konyuskov et.) grow into it- is that he'll either target a late career vet like Letang or EK, or add another depth RD like Carrier....
It's a 10m AAV contract for jumping 8 spots.
I'd give it a thought, but it's a hard pill to swallow especially since they already have Hutson and Matheson for the PP, so Karlsson doesn't bring a new dimension apart from being a RHD.
Zegras will be a Hab by the draft... That's my bet“Much Easier to Acquire in the Offseason”: Canadiens Expected to Address Center Depth This Summer
The Canadiens avoided deadline chaos but are set to be aggressive this summer. Could a top-6 center push them into playoff contention?
Not unless they take Gallagher back as part of the deal.
EK & Pitt 1st for Gallagher & Mtl 1st... Maybe add another pick (2nd or 3rd) or depth prospect on our side depending on exactly where the Pitt/Mtl picks land
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I don't think Zegras fits with what the habs are trying to build (A team with no bitch boys).
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The version from another pundit at the time, was that a deal for Zegras fell through when Hage remained available at the Habs’ pick (Habs’s 5th was not in play) — the deal was the Habs 21st plus another asset for Zegras.
Marinaro announced before the Habs’s pick that their target was Hage. There was a video of him saying it (he had filmed it outside) but can’t find it. Here’s a tweet from a third party confirming it:
If Hage hadn’t fallen to the Habs, there was a transaction for it, waiting to be announced.
Sterling Archer
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Off the top of my head, Sergachev, Marino, Weeger, Karlsson, Jones most recently.
I don’t want to have the “trades are hard” and “RHD aren’t available” debates. They are and I’m sure there are plenty other ones who are or could be made available along with younger D like Clarke, Nemec etc. that could become top Dmen.
When there’s a will, plenty of picks, prospects, roster players and cap space, there’s a way.
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In Hughes' TD press conference, he mentioned that he asked for names that weren't in the trade rumours. I believe we will be targeting one of those at the draft and try and trade for a 2C.
I expect anyone not on our 1st line, Reinbacher and Hutson to be in play.
Went through every team and listed any potential 2C (either in the lineup or upcoming). Excluded any 1C or future 1C of the team, unless they had some redundancy. Some players listed might be better suited to the wing, but if they were listed as a C, I included them.
Anaheim: Mason McTavish, Zegras
Boston: Poitras, Minten
Buffalo: Benson, Krebs, Peterka, Helenius
Calgary: Frost, Honk
Carolina: Stankoven, Jackson Blake
Chicago: Donato, Nazar, Boisvert
Colorado: Nelson
Columbus: Johnson, Brindley
Dallas: Duchene, Johnston, Bourque
Detroit: Kasper, Danielson
Edmonton: Savoie, Sam O'Reilly
Florida: Bennett
LA: Byfield, Turcotte
Minnesota: Rossi, Yurok
Nashville: O'Reilly
New Jersey: Mercer, Glass,
NY Islanders: Barzal, Ritchie
NY Rangers: N/A
Ottawa: Giroux, Pinto, Haliday
Philadelphia: Couturier, Luchanko
Pittsburgh: Crosby, Malkin
San Jose: Bystedt
Seattle: Beniers, Wright, Rehkopf
St-Louis: Schenn, Dvorsky
Tampa Bay: Geekie
Toronto: Tavares, Cowan
Utah: Hayton
Vancouver: Pettersson, Chytil, Raty
Vegas: Cataford
Washington: Strome, Dubois,
Winnipeg: Vilardi, Lambert, Yager
UFAs: Bennett, Duchene, Tavares, Giroux, Donato
RFAs: Vilardi, Rossi, Peterka, McTavish, Frost, Bourque, Glass
Out of all of these options, I'd prioritize the following:
Tier 1 (Top 2C for now and future)
I expect anyone not on our 1st line, Reinbacher and Hutson to be in play.
Went through every team and listed any potential 2C (either in the lineup or upcoming). Excluded any 1C or future 1C of the team, unless they had some redundancy. Some players listed might be better suited to the wing, but if they were listed as a C, I included them.
Anaheim: Mason McTavish, Zegras
Boston: Poitras, Minten
Buffalo: Benson, Krebs, Peterka, Helenius
Calgary: Frost, Honk
Carolina: Stankoven, Jackson Blake
Chicago: Donato, Nazar, Boisvert
Colorado: Nelson
Columbus: Johnson, Brindley
Dallas: Duchene, Johnston, Bourque
Detroit: Kasper, Danielson
Edmonton: Savoie, Sam O'Reilly
Florida: Bennett
LA: Byfield, Turcotte
Minnesota: Rossi, Yurok
Nashville: O'Reilly
New Jersey: Mercer, Glass,
NY Islanders: Barzal, Ritchie
NY Rangers: N/A
Ottawa: Giroux, Pinto, Haliday
Philadelphia: Couturier, Luchanko
Pittsburgh: Crosby, Malkin
San Jose: Bystedt
Seattle: Beniers, Wright, Rehkopf
St-Louis: Schenn, Dvorsky
Tampa Bay: Geekie
Toronto: Tavares, Cowan
Utah: Hayton
Vancouver: Pettersson, Chytil, Raty
Vegas: Cataford
Washington: Strome, Dubois,
Winnipeg: Vilardi, Lambert, Yager
UFAs: Bennett, Duchene, Tavares, Giroux, Donato
RFAs: Vilardi, Rossi, Peterka, McTavish, Frost, Bourque, Glass
Out of all of these options, I'd prioritize the following:
Tier 1 (Top 2C for now and future)
- Pettersson (I'm sur he's available, I'm just not sure if we have assets that the Canucks want)
- Rossi (I'd consider an offer sheet)
- Beniers (he's there 1C, but they could potentially move on if they believe Wright + Catton is their future)
- Byfield (If Kings want to win now, don't think we have enough to trade for Byfield, plus doubt he's actually available)
- Johnston (Doubt he's available cause he just re-signed but I'd love to have him on our team)
- McTavish
- Barzal
- Vilardi
- Benson
- Johnson
- Crosby
- Duchene
- Bennett
- Couturier
- O'Reilly
- Helenius
- Bourque
- Ritchie
- Bystedt
- Dvorsky
- Wright
TheBuriedHab
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Because of the St Louis Blues offer sheets this summer, they only have their 1st, 5th and 6th round picks this year. For a team that might miss the playoffs, that's not great.
The Habs could restock their picks this year if they want. We could be good trading partners. They're also promoting Steen to GM after this season, he might want to change the direction there.
The Habs could restock their picks this year if they want. We could be good trading partners. They're also promoting Steen to GM after this season, he might want to change the direction there.
I would add Kadri to the old list and also Boone Jenner who will be 32 this summer.
Pompeius Magnus
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We need a legit 2C, that's for damn sure. This is make or break IMO, it's going to be the thing that will dictate if we can take that next step or not. I don't care how, but we need to make it happen.
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That's super disappointing if true. Would have been such a waste trading for Zegras I consider that a miracle Hage was still available just for that reason lol
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Found Marinaro’s clip — can’t stand the guy but he was right. He managed to get someone from the Habs’s org to spill the beans:
Big work there! Always liked Yurov, but Wild do not have a great C line (Yurov may be a winger too). It would be nice a duo of russian stud and would add him potential top 2C/prospect. Injured and somewhat bad season for him but still
That was just speculation at the time.
But now we know for sure that a deal fell through because Hage was still there at 21. In their draft video, we see KH on the phone say the deal is off.
We also now know that there was a deal on the table for Zegras and a 2nd for Mailloux and 21OA.
Gascon is the third (and more credible) source to come up with that info.
Gascon specifically say the reason the Zegras deal fell though is because the Habs drafted Demidov, not because Hage was still available at 21.
KH said after the draft that they didn't want duplicates so maybe they saw Zegras as a Demidov duplicate in terms of style of player.
KH also said there was multiple trade scenarios considered during the draft.
So, unless i missed the information somewhere, there's no confirmation the cancelled trade just before picking 21 was the one for Zegras.
Ozmodiar
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That’s the ballpark of what a few equivalency / projection models suggest, with him being a point per game now.
That's over several years...
Sure. Where there's a will, there's a way in theory. But for the addition to be a net positive for the team (unlike the EK & Weegar examples above), timing rather than desperation is key.
Agreed. But the priority has to be improving the club, not forcing the issue by robbing Peter to pay Paul
