HF Habs: Trade Proposal Thread #92: Waiting on the Draft edition

[BigDaddyLurch]

Elias Pettersson is a shell of himself.
Something must have happened and he needs a change.

For $11 mil I don’t like the salary but maybe if we trade Josh Anderson and Kirby Dach both salary should be ok and Vancouver needs to retain.

Also if Rasmus Dahlin I would offer them Guhle, Roy and both first round picks.


Slafkovsky Suzuki Caufield
Demidov Pettersson Laine

Dahlin Reinbacher
Hutson

Our team dynamic would change dramatically.

...yup, we'd be soft as baby shyte...

 

[themilosh]

Well Suzuki is closer to 8m then 7m so it's already kind of breaking the rules, but honestly in the end it depends on the rest of the team makeup. Ironically the Habs would benefit more by adding a 14m player and the Oilers would benefit by adding two quality 7m players because the Oilers lack depth whereas we have the depth but lack the true high end talent.

And let's face it, at the end of the day if McDavid becomes UFA and says he's willing to sign with us for 14m we'd be fools to say sorry 12m is the highest we will go.

I said (except) mcDavid.. lol wed be foolish not to sign him for $16M

 

[Sorinth]

I said (except) mcDavid.. lol wed be foolish not to sign him for $16M

I mean you said nobody but McDavid should get over 10m but didn't specify how much over 10m you'd go for him and then said the top-10 scorers should get between 10-12m. The point still stands that we are in a position where we would benefit more from getting that 1 superstar player worth 14m then we would getting 2 players worth 7m.

 

[calder candidate]

Was reported by multiple sources, Cam Robinson and Lebrun, that Winnipeg was after Savard, and were willing to pay what they paid for Schenn to get him.

I’d have taken that return in a heartbeat if it’s factual. It would have given us 3 second round picks in 2026, which could be used as pieces in other deals or kept for what’s supposed to be a deep draft year.

If you are Winnipeg do you take Schenn or Savard? They might have been willing to pay but Savard probably wasn’t there 1st target…

 

[Beendair Donedat]

If you are Winnipeg do you take Schenn or Savard? They might have been willing to pay but Savard probably wasn’t there 1st target…

I’m saying that it was reported by both that Savard was their (the Jets) number one choice, but they settled on Schenn when Hughes wouldn’t move him.

 

[themilosh]

Elias Pettersson is a shell of himself.
Something must have happened and he needs a change.

For $11 mil I don’t like the salary but maybe if we trade Josh Anderson and Kirby Dach both salary should be ok and Vancouver needs to retain.

Also if Rasmus Dahlin I would offer them Guhle, Roy and both first round picks.


Slafkovsky Suzuki Caufield
Demidov Pettersson Laine

Dahlin Reinbacher
Hutson

Our team dynamic would change dramatically.

Whats crazy about the whole cgy pick is if they decide to blow a gasket, they could finish 10th... which then means we get FLA pick. If FLA goes on another run we'd end up with the 32nd pick..
Pittsburghs 2nd could be 35th. Almost negligble

 

[HuGort]

If UFA like Duchene is available we should try same tactics as Tampa with Guentzel. Trade 3rd for his rights, so we can talk to him exclusively before July 1st. Give him 6M for 2 years that would compensate the tax gap.

We need every advantage we can get in free agency. Maybe even do a St.Louis in RFA?

 

[salbutera]

Whats crazy about the whole cgy pick is if they decide to blow a gasket, they could finish 10th... which then means we get FLA pick. If FLA goes on another run we'd end up with the 32nd pick..
Pittsburghs 2nd could be 35th. Almost negligble

They don’t need to blow much of a gasket and finish 11th…

Cgy presently has 19OA pick:

4 pts separates 11OA - 19OA

2 pts 13OA-19OA

 

[Gaud]

Did Marchand have a nmc? What a shit return

I assume its just a rental and Marchand will be back in Boston in the summer.

 

[Gaud]

Wasn’t encouraging to hear Hughes said he didn’t had the munition to get a top 6 center for the futur today. Guess what, we won’t have more ammunition this summer lol

Hughes takes the L today. Statut quo is bad. Refusing to trade Armia for a second because you said so to suzuki, it’s sad. Either sell or buy a little at least to help them.

Hughes will have to get better pretty quickly at hockey trades. Trading a player for pick or negociating a contract, he’s good. But hockey trades? He takes the L pretty often since he’s here.

I get what he means - the prices are unreal at the TDL. I am ok with what Hughes is doing to be honest.

Sure, there are contracts that i sure wouldn't mind if he got rid of, some of which will just expire and we will just get nothing in return. However, mtl management's goal to be in the mix for a playoff spot is happening. Selling assets at a time where your team is competing for a PO spot may send the message that management doesn't believe in you this year. That would suck for morale

Instead, Suzuki reportedly asked Hughes not to trade anyone. Hughes told him it'll depend on what they do on teh ice till then. Suzuki then goes and gets 13 points and the habs win 5 games in a row. I feel like I'd be really pumped up as a player or a DG in this situation - im thinking both sides just got a lot of respect for the other; one for a captain that has caracter, leadership and that pulls his team forward. Another for a GM that trusts his captain and makes him accountable.

 

[Egresch]

We need every advantage we can get in free agency. Maybe even do a St.Louis in RFA?

When talking about STL, Brayden Schenn might be a great 2C candidate for us and I heard they were willing to trade him. They are also a good trading partner for us, as they need to retool their defense and might be interested in guys like Struble, Mailloux, Engstrom...
We only need to convince Schenn as he has 15 teams no-trade clause. He is a good veteran leader, OK on the dot, plays physical, leftie, turns 34 in August and has 3 more years at 6.5M (basically bridge Demidov ELC).

 

[Knuckles30]

Let me start by saying Cole Caufield is my favourite Hab. But sometimes you need to give to get, so who would be a realistic trade target to bring in that elusive center if we dangled Caufield? Note that I would only do this if we could sign someone like Marner as UFA to fill the void on top line wing. A cost controlled 30g winger should have a lot of value to top contending teams.

Obviously signing Bennett would be easier, but as many have said, there is only 1 of him...

 

[ML16]

Agree to disagree on Laine.

The odds of fixing all problems are very low. Very unlikely we get both a top 4 RD and a 2LC, if any of the two.

Upgrading Laine's value would pay more than Dach.

I think the Habs have enough assets to trade for both a 2C and a top-4 RHD this offseason, but if they had to prioritize one of these 2 trades, I guess trading for a 2C seems like a more dire need.

In that regard, I have more confidence in Matheson playing on his off-side next season than in Dach playing as 2C - though I don’t have much confidence in the former to begin with…

More importantly, and to make a link with our Dach vs Laine conundrum, I think neither of these players can reasonably hope to rebuild his value next year if the Habs’ don’t add a proven 2C to complete the top-6, all the more reason to pursue such an acquisition.

Keeping Laine (until TDL 206?) however likely means Dach is relegated to 3C/RW3 since Caufield, Slafkovski and Demidov will all be playing on the top-6 - and Laine is inefficient anywhere else but on a pure offensive role.

 

[TheArch]

So you “knew” 20 yr old Redenbacher, who was the best Dman in Laval after coming over late last season, would’ve been lost for 6-months w a knee injury suffered during a game at training camp?

Nobody can predict details. But expecting and planning for injuries, that are part of the game, is an obv need. If you plan that a 19 years old D would be your solution, you planned badly. Right D was weak, even with Kovacevik. To the point we are now playing a rookie offside during a playoff spot run. It was fine to trade Kovacevik only of you planned to find an upgrade. Your right D at this time ?

Savard
Barron

End of the list. Add Rainbacher, it's still by far the worst right D of the league.

So yeah, it was obv what with a single injury this would be an absolute mess. And it's been.

 

[Treb]

Nobody can predict details. But expecting and planning for injuries, that are part of the game, is an obv need. If you plan that a 19 years old D would be your solution, you planned badly. Right D was weak, even with Kovacevik. To the point we are now playing a rookie offside during a playoff spot run. It was fine to trade Kovacevik only of you planned to find an upgrade. Your right D at this time ?

Savard
Barron

End of the list. Add Rainbacher, it's still by far the worst right D of the league.

So yeah, it was obv what with a single injury this would be an absolute mess. And it's been.

Harris was still a Hab at that point. Can't carry 9D.